p.362 #5 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
Sharif Abdou wrote:
That came out really nice. I'm going to experiment with handheld panoramas using the RX1r.3. The camera really wants to be used handheld.
Thank you! I'm really enjoying the RX1R III as an EDC, and this was the first pano attempt on a daily dog walk that I normally never carry a camera outside a smartphone. Also first RAW edits in Capture One after installing the recent upgrade. We lose the Sony Film Sims, unlike Fuji, and have only C1 profiles like "Curve: Film High Contrast" or "B&W Punch/Soft" as starting points if that is of interest. RAWs vs. SOOC Jpgs look pretty amazing to my eye, first impressions are that they look very natural and clear. Enjoy your handheld panos!
p.362 #12 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
What we see here are the colors produced by the selected Sony profile, LR, C1, or whatever image editing program, combined with the settings chosen by the image creator. For 20 years, I shot exclusively with Zeiss T* at 6x6, and there wasn't a signature color, even back in the analog days when there was no electronic image processing at all. What did exist, however, were different lighting conditions and, above all, different films, which consequently led to completely different color reproduction. Just my two cents.
p.362 #13 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
Nifty Fifty wrote:
What we see here are the colors produced by the selected Sony profile, LR, C1, or whatever image editing program, combined with the settings chosen by the image creator. For 20 years, I shot exclusively with Zeiss T* at 6x6, and there wasn't a signature color, even back in the analog days when there was no electronic image processing at all. What did exist, however, were different lighting conditions and, above all, different films, which consequently led to completely different color reproduction. Just my two cents.
i strongly disagree here. zeiss, pentax, and minolta all had pretty consistent colors that came through when using the same film or the same digital sensor (others probably did too, but i'm not as familiar with them). yes, shooting contax zeiss looks different on portra than velvia, but the lenses mostly have the same color profile one each film, which is distinguishable from other companies lenses on that same film. when i shoot my zeiss and minolta lenses on digital the color is consistently different from each other in the same way. my biggest complaint about cosina voigtlander lenses is that i have trouble making their color match my other lenses in the same light with the same sensor.
as far as the rx1 goes, it is harder to tell what comes from the lens and what comes from the sensor since you can't mount the lens on another camera. i just recently shot the za 55/1.8 next to the rx1 and my color results were quite different (i strongly preferred the rx1), more different i thought than the rx1 from the sony G 24/1.4 (on the same camera as i was shooting the za 55), which also draws similarly to the rx1 in other ways imo.
anyway, since this is an image thread, a couple rx1 shots:
p.362 #14 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
sebboh wrote:
i strongly disagree here. zeiss, pentax, and minolta all had pretty consistent colors that came through when using the same film or the same digital sensor (others probably did too, but i'm not as familiar with them). yes, shooting contax zeiss looks different on portra than velvia, but the lenses mostly have the same color profile one each film, which is distinguishable from other companies lenses on that same film. when i shoot my zeiss and minolta lenses on digital the color is consistently different from each other in the same way. my biggest complaint about cosina voigtlander lenses is that i have trouble making their color match my other lenses in the same light with the same sensor.
as far as the rx1 goes, it is harder to tell what comes from the lens and what comes from the sensor since you can't mount the lens on another camera. i just recently shot the za 55/1.8 next to the rx1 and my color results were quite different (i strongly preferred the rx1), more different i thought than the rx1 from the sony G 24/1.4 (on the same camera as i was shooting the za 55), which also draws similarly to the rx1 in other ways imo.
anyway, since this is an image thread, a couple rx1 shots:
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I completely agree with you and at the same time admit that I oversimplified my wording. However, I'm certain that the photos in question reflect less the lens's color rendering than the parameters chosen to convert the raw data into a visible image. Just look at the images in posts #6, #7, and #8, all of which demonstrate completely different color renderings. The differences you describe are in no way apparent from them. Never, ever. All in all, the whole thing reminds me of the discussion about how unbearable Sony's colors are and how ravishing Nikon's are.
The popular 35mm comparison thread also shows nicely how clearly the color matching of the Zeiss 2/35 differs from the other 35mm lenses in praxis, or not. https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1685214/4
p.362 #17 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
Fred Miranda wrote:
It blended nicely. Did you do it handheld?
Thanks, Fred, all handheld (with two Chihuahuas leashed to my waist and my family waiting on me to hurry up!). I haven't used Capture One's stitching before as I usually crop 65:24 with a GF 23 or 30 for panos if hiking alone, so all these are new to me and notable as they would have been smartphone photos while hiking with family. I'm really enjoying the RX1R III (!)
p.362 #18 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
kalani_kane wrote:
Thanks, Fred, all handheld (with two Chihuahuas leashed to my waist and my family waiting on me to hurry up!). I haven't used Capture One's stitching before as I usually crop 65:24 with a GF 23 or 30 for panos if hiking alone, so all these are new to me and notable as they would have been smartphone photos while hiking with family. I'm really enjoying the RX1R III (!)
As you've shown, shooting three vertical panoramas for a horizontal 3:2 composition is a great way to get a wider field of view with the Sonnar 35/2. Not only does it give you a wider perspective, but you also end up with a super high-resolution file.
I calculated (using Brenizer Method) that the final result would be equivalent to:
Effective Focal Length: 21.3mm (From the Sonnar 35/2's 33mm)
Total MP in Final Image: 126MP (RX1RII) 180MP (RXRIII)
