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The 58mm F/1.4G Thread

  
 
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p.7 #1 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


These are very dreamy indeed Bastian. The colors and rendering are quite pleasing. Nice to see the 58 in such talented hands.


Nov 23, 2013 at 05:47 PM
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p.7 #2 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Very nice set Bastian. You have a good eye.

I think as time goes on and more people get to experiment like this we'll really see the full potential of this lens unlock.

Side note: got my grubby mitts on an 85mm 1.4G yesterday. Since everyone was asking, the 58mm AF speed was on par if-not faster.




Nov 23, 2013 at 06:17 PM
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p.7 #3 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Out of focus transition is just superb. Thanks for sharing.


Nov 23, 2013 at 06:36 PM
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p.7 #4 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


How would the bokeh of the cheap 50's compare. Much busier?

There is definitely a look that is appealing about the 58mm. Sharp or not.



Nov 23, 2013 at 07:26 PM
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p.7 #5 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


At the beach:




Nov 23, 2013 at 07:50 PM
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p.7 #6 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Bokeh is absolutely its strongest selling point, much better than the 85 1.4G IMO.


Nov 23, 2013 at 08:12 PM
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p.7 #7 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Bastian, I'm really surprised by the amount of longitudinal CA's in your fine shots. No offense meant, I really like the "look" of your examples otherwise.




Nov 23, 2013 at 08:22 PM
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p.7 #8 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Thanks for the kind words everyone. I hope to contribute more soon to give a better range of images for those thinking about making the jump and pick one up.

georgms wrote:
Bastian, I'm really surprised by the amount of longitudinal CA's in your fine shots. No offense meant, I really like the "look" of your examples otherwise.



Oh none taken, I noticed that as well and I was going after semi high contrast shots to see how it would handle that sort of thing.

One other thing I did notice is that the lens would hunt quite a bit in certain situations where say the 24/35/85/200 (primes) would not. The chain link fence for example which I know can be difficult for any lens to lock on to from the angle I shot but this lens seemed to struggle more than most.



Nov 23, 2013 at 09:16 PM
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p.7 #9 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Very nice Bastian! Glad that you begin to appreciate the lens. Thanks for sharing and your pictures make me just more eager to receive my 58mm.


Nov 23, 2013 at 09:17 PM
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p.7 #10 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


This lens is the only reason why I would consider a DF.


Nov 23, 2013 at 11:22 PM
 


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p.7 #11 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Hey Bastian,
Cool sample shots. How would you rate the sharpness of the lens as seen on your computer at 100%? I read where you said it was not the sharpest lens, which is surprising.... Since Nikon made this lens (supposedly a super sharp lens) at f/1.4. Do you have other lenses like the sigma 35mm f/1.4 that are sharper wide open compared to the 58mm? What camera (mp) are you using? I wonder if the 58mm holds up to the D800e's resolving power. And.....did you have to fine tune the focus?

Todd



Nov 23, 2013 at 11:44 PM
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p.7 #12 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Todd wrote:
Hey Bastian,
Cool sample shots. How would you rate the sharpness of the lens as seen on your computer at 100%? I read where you said it was not the sharpest lens, which is surprising.... Since Nikon made this lens (supposedly a super sharp lens) at f/1.4. Do you have other lenses like the sigma 35mm f/1.4 that are sharper wide open compared to the 58mm? What camera (mp) are you using? I wonder if the 58mm holds up to the D800e's resolving power. And.....did you have to fine tune the focus?

Todd


Hi Todd,

Well I'll do my best to come up with a sharpness scale to answer your question. My 3 "sharpest" lenses are the 200 f2 VRII, Sigma 35 and the 85 1.4G. So on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the sharpest lens, for me)

200 f2 = 10
Sigma 35 = 8
84 1.4G = 7.5
58 1.4G = 6

Mind you that I am putting it against my 3 sharpest lenses. I could also include the 45 TS, 70-200 VRII, and even the 14-24 as having a similar score to the 58 or even lower. Maybe I just had a bad copy but I was never thrilled with my 70-200 VRII (I loved the VRI)

It seems to me in my first real day of shooting that this lens requires you to take a step back to see the magic at 1.4 come to fruition. Just an initial observation of course, but I have heard similar from other reviewers.

I am shooting with a D4 and I did not have to adjust at all with either D4 body which to be honest I was very surprised by. My Sigma I had to do a +20 prior to having the dock. I am going to use a friends D800 to do some more tests with the lens pretty soon so I will get a better sense on how it holds up.

EDIT: And I thought of this after, when I take a few steps back with the Sigma I would drops its rating to right around a 6 yet I would bump the 58 up to an 8. Just an afterthought. Cheers!



Nov 24, 2013 at 12:04 AM
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p.7 #13 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


I shoot 35-40 weddings a year. I use the 50 1.4G for receptions, specifically for dancing, because it focuses instantly and I grab action shots like crazy.

Tonight the dancing got slow for a minute, so I grabbed my portrait lens, my 85 1.4G, and took some dreamy shots - but - I had forgotten how slow the 85 focuses when people are in motion.

I've been planning to replace my 50 with the 58, but now I'm worried it will focus too slow. Can anyone say with any certainty that the 58 focuses as quickly as the 50? Thanks!



Nov 24, 2013 at 01:09 AM
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p.7 #14 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Joe Marquez wrote:

At the beach:

http://www.thesmokingcamera.com/img/s9/v89/p656289871-5.jpg

Man this is nice joe. Images just look so rich and voluptuous.



Nov 24, 2013 at 01:36 AM
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p.7 #15 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


davewolfs wrote:
How would the bokeh of the cheap 50's compare. Much busier?
There is definitely a look that is appealing about the 58mm. Sharp or not.


I can help you with this question.

4 lenses:
AFS 50mm/1.8G
AFS 50mm/1.4G
AFS 58mm/1.4G
AiS 58mm/1.2 Noct
All pictures taken with a D800E, tripod, 1/4000 sec, f2, ISO 100, no postprocessing, downscaled to 1200x800 pix

AFS 50mm/1.8G






AFS 50mm/1.4G






AFS 58mm/1.4G






AiS 58mm/1.2 Noct






imho, the two 50mm lenses are less smooth than the two 58mm lenses, with the new 58mm a little bit "softer" (aka more pleasing) than the Noct.

rgds,
Andy





Edited on Nov 24, 2013 at 04:57 AM · View previous versions



Nov 24, 2013 at 04:52 AM
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p.7 #16 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Same scenery, this time each lens with its respective open arperture

AFS 50mm/1.8G






AFS 50mm/1.4G






AFS 58mm/1.4G






Ais 58mm/1.2 Noct






rgds,
Andy



Nov 24, 2013 at 04:55 AM
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p.7 #17 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


The 50 1.8g is such a bargain The 58 1.4g bokeh is miles ahead of the 50 1.4g although it looks a tad softer even although I am not sure of where the plain of focus is exactly in each shot.

I think this will be a classic great portrait/wedding lens or a landscape lens once stopped down a bit.



Nov 24, 2013 at 05:02 AM
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p.7 #18 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


A couple of images this evening.








Nov 24, 2013 at 06:18 AM
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p.7 #19 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Thank you Andy for the comparison, this is exactly I wanted to see. Some background foliage in OOF with the three lenses.

Good choices of pictures Joe to show what it can do with background lights in terms of bokeh.



Nov 24, 2013 at 08:26 AM
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p.7 #20 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


ohsnaphappy wrote:
I shoot 35-40 weddings a year. I use the 50 1.4G for receptions, specifically for dancing, because it focuses instantly and I grab action shots like crazy.

Tonight the dancing got slow for a minute, so I grabbed my portrait lens, my 85 1.4G, and took some dreamy shots - but - I had forgotten how slow the 85 focuses when people are in motion.

I've been planning to replace my 50 with the 58, but now I'm worried it will focus too slow. Can anyone say with any certainty that the 58 focuses as quickly as the 50? Thanks!



I can't say how it handles in a reception situation but as of now I would put it on par with the 85 in terms of focus speed. But then again I do not remember how fast the 50 1.4G was given I really disliked the lens and never used it.



Nov 24, 2013 at 09:24 AM
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