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p.13 #1 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Funny as soon as other glass is announced this became a dinasour. This lens is fabulous.


Sep 30, 2018 at 11:07 AM
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p.13 #2 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


GMPhotography wrote:
Funny as soon as other glass is announced this became a dinasour. This lens is fabulous.


Thanks for the samples Guy. Joshua Tree is definitely a fun place to go with the family.



Sep 30, 2018 at 11:18 AM
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p.13 #3 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


did I miss it or has somebody done a comparison with 50/1.1?

weight is huge difference, and the 1.2 build reminds me of:

Canon 50/1.2 LTM by unoh7, on Flickr



Sep 30, 2018 at 02:07 PM
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p.13 #4 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Tricky question for those with experience disassembling this or other new VM lenses, are the shims accessible? I seem to recall it being difficult in the front-end filter thread...

Edit: I have a feeling it might be like the unit focusing ZM lenses featured in Samuli's summary here https://vahonen.info/secure/wiki/index.php/Sony_A7_-_Thick_filter_stack_issues



Sep 30, 2018 at 04:17 PM
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p.13 #5 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


thrice wrote:
Tricky question for those with experience disassembling this or other new VM lenses, are the shims accessible? I seem to recall it being difficult in the front-end filter thread...

Edit: I have a feeling it might be like the unit focusing ZM lenses featured in Samuli's summary here https://vahonen.info/secure/wiki/index.php/Sony_A7_-_Thick_filter_stack_issues


I remember Guy opening the CV 28/2 and not finding any shims to adjust infinity focus.



Sep 30, 2018 at 04:53 PM
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p.13 #6 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Correct the 28 did not. This one I’m not planning on cracking it open. Corners are quite good at 5.6


Sep 30, 2018 at 05:03 PM
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p.13 #7 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Just a few shots taken on the A7RMKII with the TAP today.
I'm so impressed with the wide open performance of this lens I'm contemplating selling my 50mm Summilux.





















Sep 30, 2018 at 05:07 PM
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p.13 #8 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Feel the same. Really like it’s wide open sharpness.


Sep 30, 2018 at 05:35 PM
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p.13 #9 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review




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I'm so impressed with the wide open performance of this lens I'm contemplating selling my 50mm Summilux.


Sacrilege!

Photos look great. Maybe a wake up call for Leica to redo the Lux, though I'm sure they'll also redo its price point.




Sep 30, 2018 at 05:58 PM
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uhoh7 wrote:
did I miss it or has somebody done a comparison with 50/1.1?


I haven't seen one yet, but suspect the 50/1.2 is in a different league. At least different generation.



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p.13 #11 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


SharpContrast wrote:
I'm so impressed with the wide open performance of this lens I'm contemplating selling my 50mm Summilux.


Why do you want to upset Ron?




Sep 30, 2018 at 08:02 PM
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p.13 #12 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


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Why do you want to upset Ron?



It wasn't intentional Fred! : )
Sorry Ron ; )
It just seems a little indulgent to have both, especially that mines a limited edition version that some other Leica nut will pay a premium for

To me the the vm50 has clearer cleaner look compared to the slightly more contrasty Lux. Which I prefer.
But I still need to do more diverse environment tests to be sure before I flog it.
Two things the Lux is good at is retaining its sharpness at near distance due to the fle, the other is shooting wide open at far away subjects and retaining its resolution and displaying very little chronic aberrations.

Good example of the latter is below:









Edited on Oct 01, 2018 at 06:38 AM · View previous versions



Oct 01, 2018 at 05:08 AM
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p.13 #13 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Please see below for FOV camparison for the 50 Lux and VM50 1.2:

Lux 1.4

VM50mm

And below is a light gathering ability comparison:




Summilux at 1.4



Nokton at 1.2

I tested the C-Sonnar 1.5 for light gathering ability at the same time and the difference was indistinguishable from the Summilux, I put this down to having fewer lens elements rightly or wrongly.



Oct 01, 2018 at 05:32 AM
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p.13 #14 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


GMPhotography wrote:
I did have success with the TAP but I think im going to sell it. Just not into it


For me:

Day one Voigt 50 F1.2 test adapted to A7r3 and A9 w/ TAP resulted in a very high AF hit rate 70-80%, Very little fiddling required.

Day two with the same kit but also added a third lens, the Voigt 35 1.2 vII resulted in PITA about 20-30% hit rate. Had to restart camera/ or unmount and remount everything several times to regain operations. Camera battery was almost fully charged ( that was a suspicion). I did notice if I turn on the camera and the TAP doesn't move forward and settle, then I can expect trouble and should unmount and remount all over again until I see movement upon initiation.

Not sure why two very different TAP ops results with the same gear on two separate days. But it is what it is. When it works it's some magic to behold otherwise you might want to kick it to the curb. Simply not reliable in its current form.



Oct 01, 2018 at 08:52 AM
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p.13 #15 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


I put my my Pronto up for sale. Not because of any issues but I realized why I sold the last one. I’m just not into it. Rather focus myself. I put my VM close focus adapter up for sale also. Just want a normal adapter.


Oct 01, 2018 at 09:12 AM
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p.13 #16 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


GMPhotography wrote:
I put my my Pronto up for sale. Not because of any issues but I realized why I sold the last one. I’m just not into it. Rather focus myself. I put my VM close focus adapter up for sale also. Just want a normal adapter.


I'm also using a Shoten M to E regular MF adapter. Very refreshing when it all just works !

I read somewhere that close focus adapters for Leica lenses can cause IQ issues as many Leica M lenses are not designed for CF. But I have not tested/compared for myself. Maybe not the same issue for the Voigt M lenses.





Oct 01, 2018 at 09:30 AM
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p.13 #17 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


LBJ2 wrote:
I'm also using a Shoten M to E regular MF adapter. Very refreshing when it all just works !

I read somewhere that close focus adapters for Leica lenses can cause IQ issues as many Leica M lenses are not designed for CF. But I have not tested/compared for myself. Maybe not the same issue for the Voigt M lenses.


The CV 40/1.2 and 50/1.2 lenses are not optimized for MFD and therefore adding a close-up adapter will just make matters worse. One workaround is to step the lens down the lens at MFD or closer.



Oct 01, 2018 at 09:35 AM
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p.13 #18 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Yea I’m just not using this lens at MFD that often anyway


Oct 01, 2018 at 09:49 AM
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p.13 #19 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


rscheffler wrote:
I haven't seen one yet, but suspect the 50/1.2 is in a different league. At least different generation.


The 50 1.1 is no slouch.


Be Prepared by unoh7, on Flickr

Lensrentals has a good test, which show it drop on the edges like most WO, but they did not test it past F/2. Above is wide open but I was shocked at some random F/5.6 shots on A7 mod. I should dig them up.

It's weight is the biggest downside I've found.





Oct 01, 2018 at 11:47 AM
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p.13 #20 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


SharpContrast wrote:
Just a few shots taken on the A7RMKII with the TAP today.
I'm so impressed with the wide open performance of this lens I'm contemplating selling my 50mm Summilux.


ha! pm me if you are serious about selling the lux, i'm looking to buy on at some point.




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