ustjwenew wrote:
Nice pictures Peire! Sometimes I think you always have beautiful weather😊
Thank you.Unfortunately not.The pictures above were taken recently during the biggest flood ever,caused by 3 consecutive days of extremly intensive raining.
Knut. wrote:
How does this lens [75mm/f1.5] compare to the Voigtländer 65mm/f2.0?
What would the advantages be of one over the other?
Weigt wise the 65mm is 625g versus 515g for the e-mount Version of the 75mm.
The difference in horizontal FOV is 15%, which not really significant.
With an Apo lens [in this case the 65mm] I could expect a more distinct transition between in-focus and out-of-focus areas according to Peter Karbe, if this can be transfered to Voigtländer lenses.
Explanation at ~ 30 minutes, 0 seconds (30:00)
What other drawing differences can I expect at f2.0; f2.8; f4 or f5.6 between the Voigtländer 75mm and 65mm?...Show more →
If you check the crops from this review, you’ll see that when stopped down to f/4, the CV 75/1.5 captures fine detail similarly to the CV 65/2. However, the 65mm has the advantage at wider apertures, particularly at mid-field.
From the review:
"They performed similar at smaller apertures - by f/2.8 it matches the CV 65/2 APO's center, by f/4 it matches its mid-field and at f/8 it comes close to the CV 65/2's corners."
I had the chance to use this lens just a handful of times on film for weddings this year. I like this lens a lot but generally prefer 50mm, but here's two film portraits on it from this year.
And here's a handful of photos with it on the M11. Generally I stick with 50mm but on occasion if I want that little extra reach or compression I will reach slip the 75mm on.
If I can live without EXIF and auto-ibis focal length entry, would people suggest getting the VM version for the weight savings and flexibile compatibility?
Yogifi wrote:
If I can live without EXIF and auto-ibis focal length entry, would people suggest getting the VM version for the weight savings and flexibile compatibility?
The Thypoch I haven't seen confirmation it performs well on Sony, nor anything substantial confirming the same for the cinema version, which is sold for Sony e-mount.
Looking at the samyang 75mmf1.5 and ttartisan 75mmf2 at the moment, samyang was reasonably cheap used, and it's very light. TTA had a decent sale recently, just hasn't shown up yet.
The concept of multi-mount usage is coming, in fact it's already big in hybrid cinema. Nick Salazar convinced DZO (parent company of Thypoch brand) to focus on making the C series of the Simeras in M-mount, which after giving it considerable thought, they did. When you say 'performs well', it seems fair to ask you to elaborate on what you are actually looking for.
I have/use one of the 75mm Simeras, the 16-blade 75/1.4 stills Simera (exact same optics as the C), and I'd have no qualms whatsoever using it on any Sony a7 series camera, same as the other Simeras. If you need perfection, I don't know what to say. Maybe keep looking!
I have used the VM 75/1.5 and have seen no 'midfield curvature' of note, nor any optical slump, using a Sony a7r but I am more interested in final image quality than aberration perfection. For a lot of review commentary, you have to be aware of each person's particular susceptibilities for low count peccadillos. Different priorities apply, often heavily. It's often not easy.
Whilst in the dark about what 'performs well' entails, here are a couple of VM images shot on Sony's a7rI. It's a very sweet lens. Maybe they will help assuage any residual doubts, for others if not yourself. People are fussier than me, so that's my bias, lol. The Simera is a stronger lens wide open and the 16-blade iris shapes backgrounds beautifully, it's warmer and better for skin; and it has fabulous color, which is why it displaced the more dreamy CV unit in my keep. More of mine from that one in the dedicated thread here:
philip_pj wrote:
The concept of multi-mount usage is coming, in fact it's already big in hybrid cinema. Nick Salazar convinced DZO (parent company of Thypoch brand) to focus on making the C series of the Simeras in M-mount, which after giving it considerable thought, they did. When you say 'performs well', it seems fair to ask you to elaborate on what you are actually looking for.
I have/use one of the 75mm Simeras, the 16-blade 75/1.4 stills Simera (exact same optics as the C), and I'd have no qualms whatsoever using it on any Sony a7 series camera, same as the other Simeras. If you need perfection, I don't know what to say. Maybe keep looking!
I have used the VM 75/1.5 and have seen no 'midfield curvature' of note, nor any optical slump, using a Sony a7r but I am more interested in final image quality than aberration perfection. For a lot of review commentary, you have to be aware of each person's particular susceptibilities for low count peccadillos. Different priorities apply, often heavily. It's often not easy.
Whilst in the dark about what 'performs well' entails, here are a couple of VM images shot on Sony's a7rI. It's a very sweet lens. Maybe they will help assuage any residual doubts, for others if not yourself. People are fussier than me, so that's my bias, lol. The Simera is a stronger lens wide open and the 16-blade iris shapes backgrounds beautifully, it's warmer and better for skin; and it has fabulous color, which is why it displaced the more dreamy CV unit in my keep. More of mine from that one in the dedicated thread here:
I don't think you can go wrong, but standards vary, often alarmingly....Show more →
Thank you, Philip, I've been seeing your 75mm shots with the thypoch and it's made me want to try one but I thought I remembered you mentioning having a modified Sony sensor, which Im reluctant to do still having only one body.
Will double check how the cheaper 75mm hold up for portraits compared to the Zony 55mmf1.8. I think the viltrox air punched in will be okay for walkabout purposes, so mainly wanted the 75mm nokton/simera for people shots with a bit more flexibility than an 85mm. The nokton VM version's size is attractive but so is the render on the simera.
Yogifi wrote:
Thank you, Philip, I've been seeing your 75mm shots with the thypoch and it's made me want to try one but I thought I remembered you mentioning have a modified Sony sensor, which Im reluctant to do still having only one body.
If you haven't see Fred's review of the Thypoch 75 f/1.4 you should see his comparison to the VM 75 f/1.5. Here is the review:
The two lenses are very similar and even have a very similar optical design. Fred finds a very similar rendering. The Voigtlander is a little lighter and "only" has a twelve blade aperture. The Thypoch has a floating element design which allows a bit better performance at MFD and a bit shorter MFD, but the Voigtlander has a fairly short MFD and quite decent performance at that MFD. The E mount version of the Voigtlander has a slightly shorter MFD than the Thypoch. I think its main advantage, however, is that it has a longer focus throw, which I like, and probably has a bit less vignetting as it has a wider diameter. It of course has full electronic connection with a Sony camera, which has the usual benefits of those contacts. Those advantages of the E mount version come at a substantial increase in size and weight, however.
I have used the VM version of the Voigtlander on an unmodified Sony pretty extensively and it performs excellently. At wide open aperture the lens isn't perfect, but still has nice sharpness and decent contrast. As Bastian's review highlights, you do have to trade these off against each other a bit at wide open aperture, but from f/2 really this isn't an issue and that is just one click narrower aperture on this lens on the VM version. And the results at f/2.4 (two clicks narrower than wide open) are very strong across the field already. You might be pickier than I am but I think the Voigtlander is a very nice lens on even an unmodified Sony. Not perfect, but really good in almost every respect.
The Thypoch looks really good too, and I think it is a strong choice. For me it falls into a bit of no man's land between the two Voigtlanders, however. If I focus on size, the VM version is the lightest and has such similar performance I would have a hard time choosing the Thypoch over it. If I don't care that much about size and weight, however, then I would probably go for the E mount version with its longer focus throw, shorter MFD and the convenience of electrical contacts. I think only the Thypoch aficianado, which obviously Phillip is, or someone who was really picky about close focus performance and super round bokeh balls would pick the Thypoch. It certainly is a really great lens and if its advantages are your thing, then you should definitely consider it. For me, however, it sits in that no-man's land of not being as small as the VM, but not bringing the advantages that I like (longer focus throw and electronic contacts) of the Sony E mount version and yet it is a very similar lens.
