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RustyRus wrote:
I didn’t even realize you were in Portland- 100% let’s make something happen.



There are several FM members in Portland.



Jan 08, 2024 at 01:09 AM
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madNbad wrote:
There are several FM members in Portland.


I smell a youtube episode meet up...



Jan 08, 2024 at 11:33 AM
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Desmolicious wrote:
I smell a youtube episode meet up...


More likely you're smelling something that washed up on the beach. Don't let the dogs roll in it.



Jan 08, 2024 at 12:46 PM
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madNbad wrote:
More likely you're smelling something that washed up on the beach. Don't let the dogs roll in it.


I was half right.



Jan 08, 2024 at 01:17 PM
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p.49 #5 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


I started longing for the Panchro so it’s back on the Zf. Just a couple of shots for now.


Light Lens Lab Speed Panchro II 50mm f2 & Nikon Zf













Jan 12, 2024 at 05:12 PM
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p.49 #6 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


So, the LLL '1966' has continued to grow on me. One of the most striking aspects of its rendering is how soft the out-of-focus areas are drawn. Other high-speed double-gauss-derived lenses from this period generally look good/smooth only after they've been stopped down a stop or two. Though I've never owned one, the pre-asph 50mm Summilux that was contemporary with the 1.2 Noctilux is definitely more nervous at full aperture and blur discs have hard edges...at least as seen in this excellent review:

https://www.47-degree.com/focus-shift/summilux50mme43

The LLL '1966' is quite smooth - blur discs are evenly illuminated (save for the onion ring structures) and there is very little ni-sen bokeh. As others have noted, it isn't as sharp as f/1 Nokton, the f/1.2 Nokton, the f/1.2 Nikkor and probably a whole host of other lenses. It is however, beautifully built, relatively small and has (for my own taste) a lovely rendering.

A few trapped-in-doors-sample-shots on a Sony A7RII while I wait for nicer weather:

Orange Wine by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Pinot noir by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Pinot noir by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Pinot noir by Jim Fischer, on Flickr




Jan 15, 2024 at 04:42 PM
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Lincoln Continental Mark VII by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Dad and his Sterio by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Mom by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Mom, Gorcery Shopping by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Dad by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M5, Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.2 '1966,' Fomapan 400 @ 200, Xtol 1:1



Jan 17, 2024 at 01:55 PM
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Light Lens Lab Speed Panchro II 50mm f2 & Nikon Zf






























Jan 19, 2024 at 05:35 PM
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Panchroing on the Zf.


Light Lens Lab Speed Panchro II 50mm f2 & Nikon Zf






























Jan 20, 2024 at 04:39 PM
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I’m not used to b/w photography but I gave it a go.

Light Lens Lab Speed Panchro II 50mm f2 & Nikon Zf




























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Light Lens Lab Speed Panchro II 50mm f2 &Nikon Zf




















Jan 22, 2024 at 05:32 PM
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I received the LLL 50mm f1.2 ASPH today. Made with high quality, focuses smoothly. Mine is aluminum and weighs 440 grams. It draws very softly when open. Suitable for atmospheric portraits, similar to those shot with soft focus lenses or monocles. From aperture 2 it becomes sharp, even sharper than my Elcan, selected as the best of three copies. The pincushion distortion is a bit annoying. By following the link you can download a comparison with Elcan (shot on a Leica M10). Some of the shots in the test were blurry due to the long shutter speed, so I'm sorry. Link (143 Mb): https://disk.yandex.ru/d/ZBPghEA_CGMJew




Jan 24, 2024 at 01:34 PM
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LightLensLab wrote:
I also received the 35mm f/1.4 ASPH “11873”,

More information will follow!


Hey David! Any more info on this lens? I'm very curious to see more sample images from it. Also, images of the lens, too.



Jan 27, 2024 at 05:06 PM
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Listopad44 wrote:
I received the LLL 50mm f1.2 ASPH today. Made with high quality, focuses smoothly. Mine is aluminum and weighs 440 grams. It draws very softly when open. Suitable for atmospheric portraits, similar to those shot with soft focus lenses or monocles. From aperture 2 it becomes sharp, even sharper than my Elcan, selected as the best of three copies. The pincushion distortion is a bit annoying. By following the link you can download a comparison with Elcan (shot on a Leica M10). Some of the shots in the test were blurry due to the long shutter speed, so I'm sorry.
...Show more

Thanks for sharing the samples and aperture series!



Jan 27, 2024 at 05:22 PM
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SPII Rigid now available from Popflash in silver. Just ordered one – think this will look great on a future M11 Safari. This external design of the Rigid version looks so good, and I like that they use their more simple A42 lens hood.

https://www.popflash.com/leica-lenses/light-lens-lab-50mm-f/2-rigid-spii-chrome-leica-m-mount-lens-new/





Image from Popflash Photo's product page




Jan 31, 2024 at 11:14 AM
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SPII 50 Rigid in silver arrived today.

[Updated 2/2/24]

Ergonomics:

– Feels lighter than the SPII as advertised
– Well balanced on the M, which does not tip forward with the lens attached
– Build quality seems high
– Aperture ring movement and clicks are nice; more Summicron-like compared to the regular SPII
– Focusing was a bit uneven for the first few minutes then smoothed out quickly
– Focus tab and infinity lock feel similar to the Leica 28 Summaron reissue
– Focus ring knurling allows the lens to be used as if the focus tab isn't there, and disengaging infinity lock while using the ring instead of the tab was easy to do
– Focus smoothness when using the ring is well dampened and uniform from MFD to infinity
– Focus smoothness with the tab is less uniform due to angle of pressure applied in order to operate it (as happens to me with other lenses with this kind of focus tab/knob)
– MFD appears to be 0.6m if the spacing of the lens distance markings is accurate; the rangefinder works all the way to this minimum distance
– Lens hood is well-matched to the lens

Optics:

– Stopped down central flare is now completely neutral and not blue/purple
– Optics are perfectly centered
– [updated] Rangefinder patch at infinity hard stop is a hair short of alignment
– [updated] Actual infinity focus at hard stop is slightly short of perfect infinity focus at f/2
– [removed comments about sharpness and glow until I can do side-by-side tests between the Rigid and regular version]














Feb 01, 2024 at 09:17 PM
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January was a slow month for shooting film. Trying to get out of the slump this month. In the mean time, here are a couple snaps from yesterday with LLL 50mm f/1.2 '1966' on the ol' Sony A7RII.

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Though, I have never owned the 50mm C-Sonnar ZM, it shares some attributes...high(ish) contrast, low(er) resolution and beautiful out-of-focus/fall-off.



Feb 02, 2024 at 02:42 PM
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Update: had to return this copy of the Rigid SPII.

Did some back and forth switching between the Rigid SPII and regular SPII on both the S5IIX and the M11M, and the Rigid was not as sharp as my regular version at all distances at f/2.

Also after doing some more infinity shots at f/2 in bright daylight with the Rigid, it seems my copy actually didn't focus all the way to infinity at the hard stop. If I put generous pressure on the focus tab, pushing it into the hard stop, I could see infinity get sharper while the pressure was applied, then focus would get softer when I released the pressure on the tab.

I've sent it back, and I'm on the fence as to whether I'll exchange it for another copy or not. I might just be happy that my regular SPII is well calibrated and call it a day.



Feb 02, 2024 at 09:19 PM
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Adding a comment about the central flare character trait of the Rigid SPII versus the original:

Due to the added multicoatings on the Rigid SPII, the flare is no longer blue/purple, it's just a lighter area in the frame – that's an improvement over the original SPII since the blue/purple was quite distracting. However, the better contrast from the coatings does make the central flare more visible so that it starts to show up about one f-stop sooner (between f/4 and f/5.6) than it did on the original SPII. The different number of aperture blades on the Rigid also makes the central flare shape more elongated vertically instead of just being a perfect circle on the original SPII. I think the shape change of the central flare will actually be a positive thing for video shooters, since the elongated veiling flare shape acts more like traditional flare in that it changes shape and angle as the camera is panned around. This could add an interesting mood to a video, but I think it's a distraction for stills in the situations where it shows up.

In general, I think I learned what's actually going on with the central veiling flare when stopping down since I could more easily see the effect with the Rigid version. The flare is not "showing up" when stopping down, it's actually going away everywhere but the center when stopping down. So if you move the aperture ring from f/11 all the way to f/2 while watching the flare, you actually see it spreading out so that by f/2 it evenly covers the entire frame.



Feb 03, 2024 at 11:15 AM
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More with the 50/1.2 '1966.' Not gonna lie - this lens is hard to use. Might be better off using on digital only - the resolution drop-off away from center is difficult to learn and the wavy field makes rangefinder focusing quite challenging. Still, the rendering is unique and appealing to me.

All taken with Leica M5, LLL 50mm f/1.2 '1966,' Fomapan 400 @ 200, Xtol 1:1

Fitzgerald by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

No Clos Radio by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Mona by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Dad by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Franz by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

and the onion ring torture test...
Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr



Feb 07, 2024 at 02:02 PM
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