Just to test this out, I captured two shots from my office window. One was taken using the 1.4x teleconverter, while the other utilized the 2x teleconverter. This resulted in focal lengths of 105mm and 140mm respectively on the X-Pro3 camera.
The Fotodiox adapter autofocus wasn't super quick but didn't have any issues hunting.
I noticed that the images could have been sharper, likely due to neglecting the shutter speed, especially for the 150mm shot.
Desmolicious wrote:
Is the lens able to focus to infinity w all those adapters?
Yes, indeed. While it may seem counterintuitive, consider the extenders as part of the lens's optical design. The spacing provided by the adapter is crucial for ensuring correct registration.
Here is a sample shot taken at infinity distance using the adapter's autofocus, followed by one at a closer distance. Both shots were taken at equiv. 150mm FL using the Fuji 2x teleconverter and the LLL 50/2 SP2 lens. (50 x 2 x 1.5)
ZacharyHH wrote:
Love your work, how to you like this LLL 50 1.2 vs your VM 50 1.0?
Good question:
I really like both. Let me elaborate...
Pros of the Nokton f/1:
1. It is sharper at every aperture at every distance in every part of the frame.
2. Shorter focus throw (I find the very, very long throw of the LLL to be slow and doesn't necessarily aid in more precise focusing).
3. It's lighter.
4. Bayonet mount hoods are the best. I can grab my camera from my bag without concern that I am grabbing a free spinning hood (like on the LLL) and gouging the paint job.
5. Very low geometric distortion.
6. Modern high contrast.
7. Very good flare resistance.
Pros of the '1966':
1. The rendering is gorgeous. I can't explain it. It's so difficult to know what will be in focus...but when it all comes together, it just looks lovely. Unlike any other lens I've had.
2. The size. Even though it's heavier than the Nokton, it is significantly smaller.
3. The knurling on the focus ring is fantastic (much, much better than the Nokton). The valleys are deep and knurled, the ridges are smooth (the Nokton’s pattern is the inverse of this…and shallower). Its very grippy and comfortable.
In summary, I feel more confident when using the Nokton that what I am photographing will be usably sharp. With the '1966' I feel like I'm gambling...that the juice is worth the squeeze...I am going to blow a lot of shots for the chance at nailing focus and getting to enjoy the beautiful draw from the lens.
-Does the new Panchro Rigid might be able to produce some flares and artefacts since it’s shorter and has no filter in the body,and a chrome ring, I love my Panchro but it can only produce veils.
-Does the LLL 35mm 8 elements produces more flares and artefacts, warm rings than the Voigtlander 35mm 1.4 II? I was told recently to my surprise that the CV doesn’t flare easily.
-Does the Elcan can produces such artefacts easily even if it’s less pronounced than in the 35mm as I gathered.(I already asked something in that ballpark, sorry for the déjà-vu)
Fred had a comparison of a few 35mm including the LLL and the CV I think I recall but cannot find it.
Sonnar-7 wrote:
I still have a bunch of interrogations.
-Does the new Panchro Rigid might be able to produce some flares and artefacts since it’s shorter and has no filter in the body,and a chrome ring, I love my Panchro but it can only produce veils.
-Does the LLL 35mm 8 elements produces more flares and artefacts, warm rings than the Voigtlander 35mm 1.4 II? I was told recently to my surprise that the CV doesn’t flare easily.
-Does the Elcan can produces such artefacts easily even if it’s less pronounced than in the 35mm as I gathered.(I already asked something in that ballpark, sorry for the déjà-vu)
Fred had a comparison of a few 35mm including the LLL and the CV I think I recall but cannot find it....Show more →
– SPII Rigid only has veiling flare like the original SPII. The veiling flare on the Rigid is neutral instead of blue/purple on the original.
– 8-E flare rings galore: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1625479/5#15589871
– Elcan is mostly veiling flare.
highdesertmesa wrote:
– SPII Rigid only has veiling flare like the original SPII. The veiling flare on the Rigid is neutral instead of blue/purple on the original.
Sonnar-7 wrote:
I still have a bunch of interrogations.
-Does the LLL 35mm 8 elements produces more flares and artefacts, warm rings than the Voigtlander 35mm 1.4 II? I was told recently to my surprise that the CV doesn’t flare easily.
The 8-Element is significantly less flare resistant than the SC 35mm f/1.4...I think the Nokton flares in a very appealing way. The 8-Element, is also appealing, but it quickly devolves into completely blown out images. The Nokton maintains its composure a bit better...
Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Zeiss Ikon, Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 Ver 1 SC, Kodak Ektar 100.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Have you seen any samples showing this?
I never shot any samples worth posting. I mostly evaluated while looking at the LCD and panning around in the direction an indirect light source from a window. I was hoping the multicoatings on the Rigid version would reduce the central flare when stopped down, but it appeared to only remove the blue/purple tint of the flare. The higher contrast images due to the multicoatings seemed to make the flare stand out more. I found the central flare objectionable by f/5.6. I returned it mainly due to the fact that the rangefinder patch wouldn't reach infinity when the lens was at the hard stop. I just wasn't up to playing the find-a-good-copy game.
highdesertmesa wrote:
I never shot any samples worth posting. I mostly evaluated while looking at the LCD and panning around in the direction an indirect light source from a window. I was hoping the multicoatings on the Rigid version would reduce the central flare when stopped down, but it appeared to only remove the blue/purple tint of the flare. The higher contrast images due to the multicoatings seemed to make the flare stand out more. I found the central flare objectionable by f/5.6. I returned it mainly due to the fact that the rangefinder patch wouldn't reach infinity when the lens was at the hard stop. I just wasn't up to playing the find-a-good-copy game....Show more →
I have grown to appreciate the violet hue flare that comes from the original SP2. While I generally try to avoid flare, I have become used to it when it does appear.
Fred Miranda wrote:
I have grown to appreciate the violet hue flare that comes from the original SP2. While I generally try to avoid flare, I have become used to it when it does appear.
Funny you say that, me too. That was a bit of a letdown with the Rigid version. Firstly, I hoped there would be no flare, but when there was, the fact that the flare was more neutral made it less appealing. Even on the M11M it was less appealing, perhaps because the flare was no longer be affected by color filters in the same way.
highdesertmesa wrote:
Funny you say that, me too. That was a bit of a letdown with the Rigid version. Firstly, I hoped there would be no flare, but when there was, the fact that the flare was more neutral made it less appealing. Even on the M11M it was less appealing, perhaps because the flare was no longer be affected by color filters in the same way.
I would join that appreciation club, that blue veil is an interesting signature of the lens, since it happens with strong lights coming from the side or front, it’s nice to be able to decide where to put it in the frame, when covering backlit objects it gives a colored low contrast limited range zone that mimics film or gradings, the blue teint is blueish on the warm side curiously and it gives these zones of shadows a pleasant rendering.
All, though I've done a lot of reading on these and my first inclination is to go for the LLL Elcan but the Voightlander 50 f/2/0 APO, 50 f/1.2 and 50/1.5 II are all close seconds. Since my only M lenses are the LLL 35 2.0 and Voightlander 75/1.5 I am inclined to the Elcan due to size and I am impressed with the IQ and build quality of my 35 8 Element. Questions running thru my mind: Is the IQ of the APO worth the size and cost and will it be too "clinical?" Is the the 1.2's IQ "better" than the Elcan despite the cost in size and weight? Is the 1.5 II the best compromise in IQ/size/build-quality? Any thoughts most appreciated!
