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Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

  
 
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Feb 07, 2025 at 05:11 PM
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Impressive w/open sharpness. When I use this lens, my Z6 behaves like a 36+ Mpix camera
San Sebastiano fuori le mura:



NIKON Z6 w/CV 35/2 @ f/2, 1/40 s, 250 ISO



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Feb 10, 2025 at 09:35 AM
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On the forest floor of the Monteverde Rain Forest, Costa Rica.
CR25 Monteverde Forest Floor by Al Trujillo, on Flickr



Feb 14, 2025 at 09:44 PM
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p.57 #6 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Sorry if this question has been posted before, but,
To anyone who owns this lens, can you let me know what the LoCa performance is like?
I’m interested in this lens (I already have the 50 APO), but I’m a bit confused about the disparity between the Fred Miranda LoCa test (generally positive) and the Phillip Reeve LoCa test. Bastian states the following:

“ Well… It is not like the performance is bad, but considering the Apo tag on the lens and taking into account the performance of previous Apo-Lanthar lenses I can’t say I am impressed. The apochromatic correction was one of the main selling points of this series and here I simply don’t see it. What makes things worse: the M-mount sample I received performed even worse in this category, so you should not expect this being the worst sample you might possibly get.

To be perfectly honest, I would have not given this lens the Apo designation and I don’t think it performs visible better than the Sony FE 35mm 1.4 GM which is a full stop faster (as I don’t have this lens available anymore I cannot perform a direct comparison though)”

And in his conclusion:

“ the longitudinal CA correction is not as good as I expect from a lens carrying an Apo tag. Don’t get me wrong, it is still good, but my no means as excellent as that of the 50mm and 65mm lenses.
Also at the minimum focus distance I would have expected the performance to be a bit better, similar to the 50mm 2.0”

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Feb 15, 2025 at 01:24 AM
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p.57 #7 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


jaybr wrote:
can you let me know what the LoCa performance is like?
I’m interested in this lens (I already have the 50 APO), but I’m a bit confused


I own three Apo lenses made in Cosina: Zeiss ZF.2 135/2 Apo Sonnar, CV Z 35/2 AL and CV Z 50/2 AL.
It's easier to make a 50/2 lens than 35/2 or 135/2. 135/2 is more expensive, of course, due to the significantlty larger size of lens elements.
35/2 and 50/2 share the same price.
Now, considering the above arguments, it is not surprising that the 50/2 AL is the best. Better bokeh than 35/2 AL (that tends to show occasionally some onion rings) and less residual axial colors. The 135/2 Apo Sonnar too shows some residual LoCA; I mean, it's a highly corrected lens, but LoCA is not zero; it's negligible in most shooting conditions though. Actually, the 135 AS performs way better than my Zeiss ZF 100/2 Makro-Planar insofar as LoCA is concerned. It deserves the Apo designation, IMO.
If you need/like a relatively lightweight MF 35/2 lens with excellent overall rendition, you won't be disappointed with the performance of the Apo-Lanthar.

P.S.: even the Leica 100mm f/2.8 Apo Macro-Elmarit-R shows residual LoCA when used on a Sony A7R II body:
https://blog.kasson.com/the-last-word/focus-shift-and-loca-in-the-leica-r-1002-8-apo-macro/



Feb 15, 2025 at 03:39 AM
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p.57 #8 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


I was hoping Cosina would release a more compact CV 35/3.5 APO-Lanthar, similar to what they did with their 50mm lens. Instead, they went in a different direction and produced their smallest lens to date, the CV 35/3.5 Color-Skopar. I have this lens for review, and so far, I haven't noticed any axial CA, likely due to the f/3.5 aperture. Performance is great, though not at the same level as the CV 35/2 APO-Lanthar.


Feb 21, 2025 at 12:12 PM
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I think you can fool all of the 'APO' lenses, given the right circumstances and enough magnification. All of them, even the Otuses, probably the SL APOs too. There might be more forms of color errror than most realise. I've been reading a lot of cine material - some of the best technical people (e.g. ARRI) say you cannot entirely get rid of it, so they add their own (warming) color to the aberration, to disguise it.

I like the effect of super correction more than strict APO-ness. It can be intoxicating. Of mine, the CV 35/2 APO ranks above the 50/2 APO and just a little below the finest one, the 110/2.5 from the same maker. APOs might be more sensitive to copy variation.

It's interesting that Cosina is not using aspherics in its recent lenses, in optics that are as different as can be - slow 35mm and 50mm lenses and 90mm telephotos up to f2. That f2 number is important. Slower aperture lenses do not require as high a refractive index as the f1.4 lenses.

Aspherics have never been cheaper to produce, never easier to remove onion ring residues. They are more of a process than a lens material. Used with care, a little goes a long way! They may be replacing HRI elements due to the cost of high index glass. The APO designation is fading as a strong difference in lens color correction in these days of superb APD/ED glass formulas, even regular glasses are excellent.



Feb 21, 2025 at 03:28 PM
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p.57 #10 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


For anyone interested in the long struggle it took to reach the glass formulations we have today:

https://gmpphoto.blogspot.com/2023/03/optical-glass-for-photographic-lenses.html

"For lenses with a maximum aperture of f/1.4 glasses with a refractive index close to ne1.8 are necessary. However, these are difficult to produce."

"The principal specifications for optical glasses are its light bending power, or refractive index, for different wavelengths or colors of light, and its dispersion, the difference in refractive index for certain wavelengths. Dispersion is one of the most difficult problems to deal with in designing photographic lenses."

"The best optical glasses available today display very high refractive indices with relatively low dispersion. Within the last twenty years some glass manufacturers have succeeded in producing glasses with a peculiar property called *anomalous partial dispersion* .. Such glasses provide the lens designer with new and powerful means to improve the color correction of chromatic aberrations of camera lenses."



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philip_pj wrote:
Aspherics have never been cheaper to produce, never easier to remove onion ring residues. They are more of a process than a lens material. Used with care, a little goes a long way! They may be replacing HRI elements due to the cost of high index glass. The APO designation is fading as a strong difference in lens color correction in these days of superb APD/ED glass formulas, even regular glasses are excellent.


Im not sure what the APO threshold is but I do think for certain Leica lenses I used and have seen photos from have a unique look that I don't see in lesser lenses. There's a clarity to the colors and images that I don't see in mainstream brand lenses.

Good examples are the SL APOs, the 35mm APO-M, 75mm APO, Q3 43mm APO. The 50mm f1.4 ASPH to some extent too but not sure.

I don't see it as much on in the leica 90mm APO or 135mm APO but they were both designed in the 90s so may have been to different standards.



Feb 21, 2025 at 09:00 PM
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They all have their own signatures, their visual styles. The latest Leicas are terrific optics, of that there is no doubt. They can sometimes look like the photographer used too much contrast and saturation. The different standards are partly due to glass and complexity, the latter being the enemy of image depth, unfortunately.

The SL 90/2 APO is an 11/9 lens, no mention of high refractive index (HRI) glass, but lots of APD glass. The older M 90/2 APO had just 5 elements and I want to quote Leica, and note the first sentence:

'This lens is unique because apochromatic correction and an aspherical surface are combined for the first time. Two of the five lens elements are made of high-refraction optical glass, and two others make judicious use of anomalous partial dispersion.'

So this was the best of both worlds to some: a simple design full of great and expensive glass, made possible by the high retail they asked. The modern APD glass is relatively inexpensive we can assume, looking at its near ubiquity in the modern age, but you need a lot of it to achieve the desired resolution (lens contrast). My guess is APD glass's refractive index is high 'enough' but maybe not as good as the HRI glass (which incidentally is used widely in cine lenses).

That was the trade-off: double the complexity, ~half the glass quality per element (both lenses use just one asph element but the earlier lens used one surface, whereas the latest asph lenses mostly use double-side surfacing). By the way, these two sell for the same money today.

Leica (now) believe image depth (dimensionality) comes from super high contrast wide open, with fast fall-off:

'..extremely high contrast values at maximum aperture mean that these lenses provide the quintessential Leica look, in terms of shallow depth of field and isolation of subject details.'

'..sharply focused objects show much higher contrast than objects that are out of focus. This means that objects “snap” more distinctly out of the foreground or background and more effectively isolate the subject. This creates a three-dimensional visual effect with very impressive apparent depth.'

https://leica-camera.com/en-AU/photography/lenses/sl/apo-summicron-sl-90mm-f2-asph-black

I beg to differ here. They are referring to subject-background *separation* here, not image depth. '3D' is much more complex than that, and it's difficult to achieve. That requires smoothness across the frame, smoothness from the focal plane to the background (and foreground), a lot of aperture blades, the right level of contrast in the bokeh field, steady abstraction decay with image depth, and naturalistic color.

The recent Leica APOs are not the greatest for most humans' skin and the cine people have heard this concern loud and clear. So there is a move away from the 'sharpest is best' mentality there, as most (serious) movies feature a lot of people. The early 90/2 M APO used the familiar low detail MTF wide open. They knew it would be used for people photography.

Fred posted a comparo of the latest CV lens, the 90/2 APO, and this Leica 90/2 APO from around 20 years ago. If it was released today it would pass as a modern vintage lens, a truly beautiful look.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1886307/

Today's Leica APO lenses may seem a bit overdone to some eyes. And not much is said about it, but what we photograph is changing too. I make it a point to watch this closely, and I see fewer images of people compared with 20 years ago, excluding set up portraits. A lot more buildings and street, and general work. And very sharp faces, at any aperture setting!

https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/7595010911/leica-q3-43-sample-gallery/1765656822
https://www.slack.co.uk/articles/leica-q3-43.html
https://www.cameralabs.com/leica-q3-43-review/2/



Feb 21, 2025 at 10:48 PM
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p.57 #13 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


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NIKON Z6 w/CV Z 35/2 Apo-Lanthar @ f/2, 1/40 s, 110 ISO




NIKON Z6 w/CV Z 35/2 Apo-Lanthar @ f/2, 1/40 s, 110 ISO


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Ripolini wrote:
... Better bokeh than 35/2 AL (that tends to show occasionally some onion rings)



A couple of examples, both pictures taken @ f/2 (w/Z6):







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That's double plus ungood, it must be said. Over-corrected SA and grinding artefacts, both. For some time, it was the price to be paid and generally forgivable. Times have changed.


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philip_pj wrote:
That's double plus ungood, it must be said. Over-corrected SA and grinding artefacts, both. For some time, it was the price to be paid and generally forgivable. Times have changed.


The Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron features dual aspherical elements near the front, and I find its specular highlights have a much cleaner inner structure compared to the APO. (Although more distinctive outlining)

Here’s an example from the review:







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Ripolini wrote:
A couple of examples, both pictures taken @ f/2 (w/Z6):


I suppose that your examples reinforce my choice to avoid using the lens for images like those.

I do enjoy the lens for landscapes, though, and I frequently carry it while hiking. I habitually use it at about f/5 and focus stack if it seems appropriate. The 35 APO was my most-used lens (from a kit of Loxia 25, 35 and 50 APO, and ZM 85) during a recent trip in Argentina and Chile.




Apr 02, 2025 at 08:50 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
The Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron features dual aspherical elements near the front, and I find its specular highlights have a much cleaner inner structure compared to the APO. (Although more distinctive outlining)

Here’s an example from the review:


I definitely prefer the 35mm APO image, the 35mm Ultron outlining is too distracting IMO.

J



Apr 06, 2025 at 09:59 PM
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p.57 #20 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


I’ll show that above comparison when anyone asks why I dislike Ultrons most of the time.

Back on subject…








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