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p.5 #1 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Gorgeous color rendition and composition


Jun 18, 2021 at 01:57 PM
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p.5 #2 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


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Jun 18, 2021 at 05:08 PM
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p.5 #3 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Fred, how do you like the M9 vs your M10-R?


Jun 18, 2021 at 06:44 PM
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p.5 #4 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


fwdesign wrote:
Fred, how do you like the M9 vs your M10-R?


To tell you the truth, I'm having a blast with the M9. The shutter noise and overall menu simplicity makes shooting very enjoyable. Love the reds and oranges coming from the CCD sensor.



Jun 18, 2021 at 09:06 PM
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p.5 #5 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


This is the first of 2 reports that I took yesterday comparing the new Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens mounted on my Kolari Vision UT modded A7rII and my Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 mounted on the Kolari Vision UT modded A7rII and my stock A7rIII. This has been taking a long time and I am not sure if I will get through the second set later today or tomorrow.

First let me say, that because I had so many M-mount lenses and Leica M to Sony NEX adapters, Kolari Vision set my UT modded A7rII so that I could focus basically any of my Leica M mount lenses and Leica M to NEX adapters so that they could/would focus to or beyond infinity. This also applies to my Leica R lenses and Novoflex Leica M to NEX adapters. This is not the case with my Leica R lenses and my stock A7rIII.

Unfortunately I do not have any location that affords me the opportunity to shoot my tests quite as Fred does. So, I did the best that I could with what was available. Also, I am not familiar enough with how Fred is able to box his target spots on his images to indicate where he is enlarging the images for review at center, mid field, and corner. Additionally rather than using one of my Ball heads to angle the photos as Fred, I used my Fotopro E-6H Gimbal head mounted on my1257LVL tripod for these photos.

As to the first target area of these tests, I was photographing downhill across a field of grass toward an area of trees that were about 1/3 of the way from the top of the image so that I could place buildings in the upper left corner of the image for review. Additionally, I needed to do this in this manner so that I could adjust the focus of both lenses toward the center so they were approaching infinity. The focus location for all of the images are the trees just as the hillside dips down to the right (at about 2/3 of the image from the bottom and where there is the transition of the grass to the trees. The mid field image is looking above the transition of the grass to the trees about 1/4 of the way in from the left side of the image where it is flat and about to take the first dip to the right. The upper left corner is explanatory.

All Photos were taken as RAW files with no processing right out of the camera except for Default last LR version default settings and prepared as JPEG files.

Below starts the tests beginning with those taken with the Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens mounted on my Kolari Vision UT modded A7rII followed by my Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 mounted on the Kolari Vision UT modded A7rII, and finally with the Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 mounted on my stock A7rIII. Images were taken at f2, f2.8, f4, f5.6, and f8 for the Voigtlander lens and f2.8, f4, f5.6, and f8 for the Leica lens.

Rich




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Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2 Full Frame





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Focus Area from First Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2





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Mid Field from First Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2





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Upper Left Corner from First Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2





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Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2.8 Full Frame





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Focus Area from Fifth Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2.8





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Mid Field from Fifth Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2.8





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Upper Left Corner from Fifth Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2.8





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Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f4 Full Frame





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Focus Area from Ninth Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f4





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Mid Field from Ninth Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f4





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Upper Left Corner from Ninth Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f4




Jun 19, 2021 at 08:57 AM
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p.5 #6 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Photos continue with images taken with my Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens mounted on my Kolari Vision UT modded A7rII followed by and my Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 mounted on the Kolari Vision UT modded A7rII.

Rich



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Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f5.6 Full Frame





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Focus Area from First Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f5.6





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Mid Field from First Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f5.6





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Upper Left Corner from First Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f5.6





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Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f8 Full Frame





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Focus Area from Fifth Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f8





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Mid Field from Fifth Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f8





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Upper Left Corner from Fifth Image, Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f8





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Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2.8 Full Frame





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Focus Area from Ninth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2.8







Mid Field from Ninth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2.8







Upper Left Corner from Ninth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f2.8



Edited on Jun 19, 2021 at 10:29 AM · View previous versions



Jun 19, 2021 at 09:35 AM
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p.5 #7 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


naturephoto1 wrote:
Photos continue with images taken with my Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens mounted on my Kolari Vision UT modded A7rII followed by and my Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 mounted on the Kolari Vision UT modded A7rII.

Rich


Thanks for the comparison Rich! I will post it to the review's member section.

The Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 can't keep up with the new Voigtlander at the corners. I used to own it and it rendered beautiful colors. For the Leica M or Sony Kolari modded, I would trade it for the new Voigt 28/2 II.



Jun 19, 2021 at 09:46 AM
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p.5 #8 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


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Thanks for the comparison Rich! I will post it to the review's member section.

The Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 can't keep up with the new Voigtlander at the corners. I used to own it and it rendered beautiful colors. For the Leica M or Sony Kolari modded, I would trade it for the new Voigt 28/2 II.


Hi Fred,

Thank you. There are a lot more images coming and the Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 starts to or does appear to catch up. I often shot the lens at f11 or even f16. I already own the new Voigtlander lens and expect to sell both the Leica and my Minolta CLE MC 28mm f2.8 M-Rokkor without White Spots in the fall in cooler weather.

Also, LR has the profile for the Leica R28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 which helps it's performance when used; it is and was not used for these tests. Eventually there will be a profile for the new lens.

The additional images to follow in the next several postings.

Rich




Jun 19, 2021 at 10:07 AM
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p.5 #9 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


More photos with the Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens and my Kolari UT A7rII camera.

Rich




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Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f4 Full Frame





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Focus Area from First Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f4





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Mid Field from First Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f4





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Upper Left Corner from First Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f4





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Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f5.6 Full Frame





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Focus Area from Fifth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f5.6





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Mid Field from Fifth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f5.6





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Upper Left Corner from Fifth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f5.6





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Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f8 Full Frame





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Focus Area from Ninth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f8





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Mid Field from Ninth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f8





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Upper Left Corner from Ninth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, Kolari UT A7rII, f8



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Jun 19, 2021 at 10:50 AM
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p.5 #10 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Photos with my Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens and my stock A7rIII.

Rich



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Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f2.8 Full Frame





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Focus Area from First Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f2.8





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Mid Field from First Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f2.8





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Upper Left Corner from First Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f2.8





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Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f4 Full Frame





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Focus Area from Fifth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f4





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Mid Field from Fifth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f4





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Upper Left Corned from Fifth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f4





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Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f5.6 Full Frame





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Focus Area from Ninth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f5.6





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Mid Field from Ninth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f5.6





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Upper Left Corner from Ninth Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f5.6




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Photos with my Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens and my stock A7rIII at f8.

Rich



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Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f8 Full Frame





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Focus Area from First Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f8





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Mid Field from First Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f8





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Upper Left Corner from First Image, Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 lens, stock A7rIII, f8




Jun 19, 2021 at 11:22 AM
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p.5 #12 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Photo cross posted in the Sony FE Image Thead and taken yesterday at 5:23 PM.

Looking down through the trees across the Lehigh County Zoo and across the Preserve into the distance.
Tripod mounted A7rII Kolari Vision Ultra Thin sensor modified camera and Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens; silent shutter.
ISO 100, f8, 1/50 second.

June 18, 2021
At the top of the Trexler Nature Preserve, Schnecksville, PA.

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Jun 19, 2021 at 11:25 AM
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p.5 #13 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Thanks to your time and labor to share this analysis
that would helpful to many for those who are interested in purchasing this lens.



Jun 19, 2021 at 11:37 AM
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p.5 #14 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


@fredmiranda You're low key trying to start the CCD wars again

@naturephoto1 Thanks for doing all that testing! What do you think of the colors and contrast of the CV 28/2v2 vs the R 28v2?



Jun 19, 2021 at 01:01 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
@fredmiranda@ You're low key trying to start the CCD wars again

@naturephoto1@ Thanks for doing all that testing! What do you think of the colors and contrast of the CV 28/2v2 vs the R 28v2?


Thank you.

Unless I am mistaken the Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM appears to be a bit toward the bluer end of the color spectrum and the Leica R 28mm f2.8 Elmarit V2 is more toward the yellow end of the spectrum. I had used my Leica R 60mm f2.8 Macro Elmarit lens for setting my references for my Kolari Vision UT sensor modded A7rII white balance calibration. When I took the photos yesterday, thin clouds were forming covering the sky, but I had left the color balance setting for daylight and probably should have been for cloudy conditions, but it was between daylight and cloudy.

Unless I am mistaken, I believe that the Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM is probably has more contrast than the Leica Elmarit V2.

However, these photos were all taken in RAW and reported with only LR default settings with no adjustments and I almost always will process and increase the color, contrast, and often the sharpness.

Rich




Jun 19, 2021 at 01:24 PM
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In my opinion, Voigtlander did wonderful job that shows impressive sharpness and color.
From my personal test, Elmarit-R 28mm V2 is slightly sharper than Contax 28mm F2.8MMJ and Pentax 28mm F3.5 K overall.
But when I compare with CV 28/2 V2, there is no any significant/visible merit or advantage except Leica color character. Ironically, CV 28/2 F2 has strength in corner than Leica in Sony system, especially in low F..



Jun 19, 2021 at 01:38 PM
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@fredmiranda@ You're low key trying to start the CCD wars again


Being one that had a war with myself few months ago, I looked past it and moved on. Sensor tech has evolved so much that I'm test driving mirrorless bodies and it was such a relief to shoot in low light, stopped down. There are simply too many advantage to give up. One aspect that I didn't hear too many people speak of, is that M9, to my eyes, has narrower color gamut, for lack of better words. That will shine when you shoot a scene that's a little dull, but more often than not the colors can look a little lacking in terms of realism. It was addicting at first, but somehow the excitement quickly fade when I wanted something that better represent the actual scene.

I still keep the M9 as a rendering reference, and see what's the next generation M would be like.



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More wide open samples:


Despite my post above, when light is sufficient, the way CCD render the green for example is hard to beat, and to my eyes that looks much more like the older CCD than the new one (or was I wrong?). The new one tend to dull down the green compared to the old one...



Jun 19, 2021 at 02:00 PM
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Being one that had a war with myself few months ago, I looked past it and moved on. Sensor tech has evolved so much that I'm test driving mirrorless bodies and it was such a relief to shoot in low light, stopped down. There are simply too many advantage to give up. One aspect that I didn't hear too many people speak of, is that M9, to my eyes, has narrower color gamut, for lack of better words. That will shine when you shoot a scene that's a little dull, but more often than not the colors can look a
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I agree with this. I used to shoot the D80--by todays standards, obviously no good. But, there was a certain way the colors and tones were rendered if you could keep with the DR (which usually meant drabber or softer evening light) that was just lovely. I am not saying the colors were uber accurate, but skin tones and such were just lovely.

And this is largely the story of (the best) character lenses too--shoot them in medium to soft light, there's a softness and richness to the tones that are magic (usually combined with SA). As you say, it's not as if the color resolution is superb, it's more about color palate and balance and tone. Shoot those same character lenses in harsh light, colors look muted or washed often, and get ready for lots of axial CA and flare. My recently acquired Sigma 35i is pleasant and remarkably consistent. Sometimes a bit boring, but it's very transparent in different lights, and I don't have the hesitate to use it in any context.

So, not only do I pick my lenses based on the type of photography (such as a modern CV for stopped down landscape work in harsher light and they do well in softer light as well), but I usually pick my gentler lenses when I know I'll be shooting towards evening or in dimmer light, which provides that gentle richness many modern lenses lack.



Jun 19, 2021 at 03:04 PM
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jeffersoncasey wrote:
Despite my post above, when light is sufficient, the way CCD render the green for example is hard to beat, and to my eyes that looks much more like the older CCD than the new one (or was I wrong?). The new one tend to dull down the green compared to the old one...


Hi Jefferson,
Good eyes!
Yes, this is the original CCD sensor. It has minimal corrosion and it's going to Kolari next month for coverglass replacement.
I only see some specks when shooting above f/5.6 but it's very easy to clone those out. ;-)



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