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PhotoCyclist wrote:
Most of my trips in the bush have been pre-photography hobby days but my more recent trips were with a Canon 5D IV and 7DII with my longest lens being the EF100-400 and I was very happy with those. I have an R5 and some very nice RF lenses now so itching to get back over to Africa.



That's what I took the last time and got some great pics. Now, I'm locked and loaded with RF gear and itchin to go. Decided to get a second R5 to take, so all you video guys who are selling your R5's for a R5C, I'll be watchin the B&S forum.



Jan 20, 2022 at 08:35 AM
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p.7 #2 · African safari talk...recommendations?


A popular alternative for aerial photography in Kenya is a hot-air balloon ride. They're not inexpensive, but there are some spectacular photo opportunities, especially as you would be flying early in the morning.



Jan 20, 2022 at 11:30 AM
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mczuman wrote:
A popular alternative for aerial photography in Kenya is a hot-air balloon ride. They're not inexpensive, but there are some spectacular photo opportunities, especially as you would be flying early in the morning.


About how much USD per person?



Jan 20, 2022 at 11:31 AM
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artsupreme wrote:
About how much USD per person?


Usually I think like $500 per person I think that is the right on the Mara. But they stay away from areas with animals typically.

https://www.masaimara.travel/hot-air-balloon-safaris-kenya.php



Jan 20, 2022 at 01:04 PM
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p.7 #5 · African safari talk...recommendations?


I did a balloon ride about 10 years ago, we were lucky to see a serval in the reeds below aside from the beautiful scenery. Probably worth doing once!

Bob



Jan 20, 2022 at 01:38 PM
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p.7 #6 · African safari talk...recommendations?


Found this thread very late, just adding my 2c.

I've been to Africa many times, leaving again today to go to Kenya. My wife and I first went there in 2007 for a belated twenty fifth anniversary and fell in love with Africa. It was almost like a homecoming for me, cannot explain why.

Been to most places in Africa in the past many years, including Botswana (Chobe and multiple camps on the Delta), Namibia, Zimbabwe, Zambia (parts of it), South Africa (Londolozzi, Tiger Canyons), Tanzania of course.

However, my repeat trip to Kenya took a long time, was only able to go again in 2020 and it seemed like the world had changed, far too many vehicles at sightings in the Mara than there were in the past, over 25 at one, cars racing past each other like they were at the Indy 500.

My favorite place and best bang for the buck is private conservancies in Kenya. The best leopard sighting I've ever had was there.

Been with several 'world renowned' photographers - the ones that have won international awards. Also with those that are equally good but not famous. My own take is that if you go with a famous person, you are paying for his trip to pad up his own portfolio. Best position at any sighting is for him, and you better not shake the vehicle when he has the camera to his eye. So my advice is to go with somebody who really has a passion for wildlife beyond winning awards and truly wants YOU to have a wonderful experience. This is hard to know unless you have already done the trip.

If you are willing to pay $1000-$1200 per person per day that a trip with a renowned photographer will cost you, you would be better off booking on your own at one of these conservancies. There are also guides (local Maasai) who have now started doing the business themselves, they rent vehicles and take small groups or individuals on their own. They know all the places and are very good at positioning etc. Biggest bonus, they are far, far cheaper than going with a photographer, especially a famous one. You can still stay wherever you like and the guide will often get you a cheaper rate just like any other agent can.

As I said, just my thoughts. Now off to Kenya again.



Feb 02, 2022 at 09:52 AM
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p.7 #7 · African safari talk...recommendations?


My first safari was around 2010 in Botswana, SA, and Zimbabwe. Chobe was nice with lot of elephants and river safari too. Rhino sanctuary in Botswana is where you can see tons of Rhinos and there was a black rhino too. In Zimbabwe you can do elephant back safaris, and walk with lions if that's your thing. Botswana is a nice place and people are friendly.

We did a safari in Tanzania in Oct 2017 and started the trip from Arusha. We went with Yellow Zebra Safari based in UK which gave us the entire vehicle (4 of us). This is critical if you are serious in photography. The 2010 safari was shared with others, and other tourists will not want to sit and wait for a long time. We had extra luggage allowance so you can carry on small planes.

We stayed in Arusha the first night then drove to Tarangire for a couple of nights, Ngorongoro area for a couple of nights, Lake Manyara for a day. Then we flew out of Lake Manyara to Serengeti Mara Region. Unfortunately, our plane crashed in Lobo during landing. There was a flash thunderstorm and pilot overran the runway and attempted a go around. We hit a tree as he tried to ascend and hit two more trees until we stopped. Pilot's leg was pinned to the cockpit and we couldn't get him out. Luckily, the plane never caught fire even though you can smell the spilled fuel. Maybe the rain helped. Another passenger broke a forearm. We were stranded for a few hrs until we got help. We had to go to Nairobi Kenya because my girlfriend got injured and the flight surgeon thought Nairobi has better medical facility in case she needed surgery. Fortunately, she only had minor injuries in the end and so we decided to continue with the safari after she was discharged. Because we were scared of going on a small plane again, our travel agency organized a new trip for us and got a driver to take us to Masai Mara, staying at Great Plains camps (owned by Jouberts). Loved it, although we missed the great migration since the herd was back in Tanzania at the time. Cannot stress enough how good Yellow Zebra Safari was in helping us get everything in order. They sent a person to help us in Nairobi. I will go with them again for my next safari. Make sure you have a good travel insurance too. They took care of everything and we didn't need to pay anything out of pocket.

This was our plane, a total loss.
http://www.darpost.com/2017/10/everyone-survives-coastal-plane-crash/

Exactly 3 weeks later, the same airline, also 11 passengers, crashed by the crater area and all died.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5093567/Eleven-dead-including-Americans-Tanzania-plane-crash.html

Since the incidents, the airline CEO resigned and they implemented two pilots per plane, according to one of my student who went on their plane a few years later. She had her eyes closed the entire flight.

So we ultimately missed the serengeti although Masai Mara is the same ecosystem essentially. I definitely want to go back to see the great migration, but I will not want to go on a small plane again. Our drive from Nairobi to Masai Mara was long, but it was fine, even when we got on dirt roads only. There actually was a Chinese restaurant/hotel on the way there, lmao.

My father and I took over 14,000 photos during that trip. I still haven't gone through all of them yet. We brought tons of gear, but that's why you bring your significant others to help and not exceed the baggage allowance.

We had 6 bodies, two 1DXII, 5D4, two 5DsR, M5 for video. Most utilized lenses were 600 f4 II usually with 1.4 on 5D4, 1DXII with 200-400 and 100-400 with 1.4x. The 70-200 f2.8II and 24-70 F2.8 II with the two 5DsR. 300 f2.8 II on the M5 for some videos. We never changed lenses on the drive. Had monopods and also roof top support that was useful for the jeeps in TZ that had open roofs, but not in Mara. Didn't use the drone on the game drive at all. Looking back, I should have tried to use it after we crashed and looked for the air strip so we can get help quicker. It was pouring rain initially, but rain stopped later. The fear at the time was getting eaten by the predators if the rescue crew didn't come in time. We held monopods as weapons in case big cats wanted to eat us.
https://flic.kr/p/2mjyYmQ

Definitely an adventure of a lifetime. Will do it again, but will avoid the small planes.



Feb 02, 2022 at 11:44 AM
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JaimitoFrog wrote:
My first safari was around 2010 in Botswana, SA, and Zimbabwe. Chobe was nice with lot of elephants and river safari too. Rhino sanctuary in Botswana is where you can see tons of Rhinos and there was a black rhino too. In Zimbabwe you can do elephant back safaris, and walk with lions if that's your thing. Botswana is a nice place and people are friendly.

We did a safari in Tanzania in Oct 2017 and started the trip from Arusha. We went with Yellow Zebra Safari based in UK which gave us the entire vehicle (4 of us). This
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That's a crazy story and you are lucky to have survived a plane crash. How the heck were you able to bring all that gear? I want to bring a lot, not as much as you, but I'm trying to confirm the weight loads. I've heard conflicting stories. The latest is 44lbs per person for luggage, but does that include your carry on? You brought a ton of gear...I'm hoping to bring the following between two people:

(4) R5's
EF 600III with extenders
EF 200-400
RF 70-200 2.8
RF 100-500
RF 14-35
EF 135
Macbook Air
Batteries, chargers, memory cards, SSD's, etc

Hopefully we don't need to bring plug adapters as I would think the camps have them for American tourists?



Feb 02, 2022 at 12:50 PM
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Why would you not bring one or two adapters yourself?

I 've never been offered an adapter in any camp (althoug, I'm not an American and maybe they'll assume non-Americans bring their own anyway ) and I wouldn't bet my chances of charging batteries on the question if a camp happens to have one for me or not. With all that stuff on the packing list, putting one or two in your bag wouldn't hurt.



Feb 02, 2022 at 03:21 PM
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evertdoorn wrote:
Why would you not bring one or two adapters yourself?

I 've never been offered an adapter in any camp (althoug, I'm not an American and maybe they'll assume non-Americans bring their own anyway ) and I wouldn't bet my chances of charging batteries on the question if a camp happens to have one for me or not. With all that stuff on the packing list, putting one or two in your bag wouldn't hurt.


Since every ounce counts I'm trying to minimize the load. I figured they would have them. I haul them all around the world and never have to use them, but if you say they don't have them at the camps I'll bring one.



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I highly suggest 2 sets and a small surge protector. Sometimes the prongs bend/break in older sockets, sometimes a spouse/friend leaves them behind by accident and sometimes they're locked away in the wrong bag. Also, what if you're lucky enough have access to 2 outlets?


Feb 02, 2022 at 06:50 PM
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artsupreme wrote:
That's a crazy story and you are lucky to have survived a plane crash. How the heck were you able to bring all that gear? I want to bring a lot, not as much as you, but I'm trying to confirm the weight loads. I've heard conflicting stories. The latest is 44lbs per person for luggage, but does that include your carry on? You brought a ton of gear...I'm hoping to bring the following between two people:

(4) R5's
EF 600III with extenders
EF 200-400
RF 70-200 2.8
RF 100-500
RF 14-35
EF 135
Macbook Air
Batteries, chargers, memory cards, SSD's, etc

Hopefully we don't need to bring plug adapters
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That's why I wrote "We brought tons of gear, but that's why you bring your significant others to help and not exceed the baggage allowance." So there were four of us on the safari in one jeep, but only two photographers. We also got the extra baggage limits, 30kg per person. The safari was planned with photographers in mind. See here:

https://yellowzebrasafaris.com/us/tanzania/areas-experiences/experiences/serengeti-photographic-safaris/




Feb 02, 2022 at 07:00 PM
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JaimitoFrog wrote:
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That's why I wrote "We brought tons of gear, but that's why you bring your significant others to help and not exceed the baggage allowance." So there were four of us on the safari in one jeep, but only two photographers. We also got the extra baggage limits, 30kg per person. The safari was planned with photographers in mind. See here:

https://yellowzebrasafaris.com/us/tanzania/areas-experiences/experiences/serengeti-photographic-safaris/



Okay, 66lbs per person sounds much better. I'll look into that. Thanks.



Feb 02, 2022 at 08:23 PM
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Slightly different end but are there any recommended cheap operators in Kenya for a 2-3 day Safari experience ? I have no idea on costs at that end .
Thanks!



Feb 03, 2022 at 12:16 AM
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artsupreme wrote:
That's a crazy story and you are lucky to have survived a plane crash. How the heck were you able to bring all that gear? I want to bring a lot, not as much as you, but I'm trying to confirm the weight loads. I've heard conflicting stories. The latest is 44lbs per person for luggage, but does that include your carry on? You brought a ton of gear...I'm hoping to bring the following between two people:

(4) R5's
EF 600III with extenders
EF 200-400
RF 70-200 2.8
RF 100-500
RF 14-35
EF 135
Macbook Air
Batteries, chargers, memory cards, SSD's, etc

Hopefully we don't need to bring plug adapters
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Don't assume that unless the lodge you are staying at says they are providing them. Remember they get tourists from all over the world.

Take more than one so you can charge multiple devices at once. Usually you can pick them up at the airports as not all African countries use the same kinds of plugs.



Feb 03, 2022 at 12:20 AM
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Your story of the flight crash is absolutely horrifying. I've done many small, single engined, single-pilot flights too, but over the past five years or so they usually have two pilots, at least in the Mara. The planes are also slightly bigger, up to 15 passengers or so.

I agree, must bring an adapter just in case. I usually carry a 220V power strip with six outlets and the main plug is Kenya/Tanzania compatible, but the power cord can be changed to any country type. One thing to remember for us Americans is that if you have the usual 110V power strip it may blow when you use it in a 220V supply.

I am carrying 3 bodies -Sony - plus 400 2.8, 70-200 2.8 MkII, 24-70 2.8 and a 135 1.8 just for kicks. Plus teleconverters and usual extra batteries and chargers etc.

I have in the past carried not just multiple bodies and lenses but multiple systems as well - like the Canon 1DXII with all the gear and the Pentax 645 MF with all its lenses, AND a sony a7r. That was totally crazy and unnecessary. Will never do that again, Now I travel as light as possible in terms of gear and prefer wider views with animal in habitat type photos.

Of course it is a huge advantage to have a spouse who is not a photographer on any trip. Been lucky my wife agreed to accompany me the last time as well as on this one.



Feb 03, 2022 at 05:12 AM
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Adapter Plug (Type G) - KENYA: https://www.amazon.com/Ireland-Adapter-TESSAN-Adaptor-Scotland/dp/B083PZNJPS/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1OLS3X8D4NAIC&keywords=Adapter+Plug+Kenya&qid=1643886790&s=electronics&sprefix=adapter+plug+kenya%2Celectronics%2C56&sr=1-7

You can probably find block outlets with USB ports as well.

Search Amazon for other countries: Adapter Plug XXX-Country



Feb 03, 2022 at 06:17 AM
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"Okay, 66lbs per person sounds much better. I'll look into that. Thanks."

I'm off to Chobe, the Delta, Dinaka, and Madikwe in June. Pangolin Photo Safari, and Jaci's Tree House. Limits are 20kg (44lbs) baggage and 7kg (15lbs) photo gear. I am going solo so have to watch the weight. I can get my carryon weight to 15 lbs, and hopefully, my "personal" item won't count into the weight. 2 R5s, RFs 15-35, 24-70, 70-200, 100-500.

When in Kenya and Tanzania two years ago, camps didn't provide AC adapters, and I had two of these https://www.amazon.com/TRAVEL-SCOTLAND-MALAYSIA-PROTECTION-GROUNDED/dp/B00349OSOS/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3N3I2WIOOHAKK&keywords=travel+ready+type+g&qid=1643892100&sprefix=travel+ready+type+g%2Caps%2C59&sr=8-3

And two of these https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-K33117-International-Travel-Adapter/dp/B071FYG49B/ref=sr_1_3?crid=22E3RIQU8XJNC&keywords=kensington%2Bplug%2Badapter&qid=1643892252&sprefix=kensington%2Bplug%2Badapter%2Caps%2C59&sr=8-3&th=1


Feb 03, 2022 at 07:46 AM
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I've done Pangolin but through another photographer, stayed on their big riverboat. Their photo boats are truly a great idea and their professional guides are very good too.

One 'trick' if you like you can try is to wear a photo jacket and put a lens or two in it. They will generally not make you take it off to weigh it.

The best way though is to buy an extra freight seat. That is what the group I've traveled with does. They usually buy a couple of extra seats which allows everyone to carry enough. It all depends upon the airline company though. Right now I have an allowance of 30Kg per person, which is more than enough.



Feb 03, 2022 at 10:26 AM
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Day 1 and 2 out at Ndutu, Tanzania. I've been using my R3 + RF 100-500mm and my E-M1X + 150-400mm Pro 98% of the time with some pretty decent results.





































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