Renes wrote:
Which 40mm Voiglander would you then choose for landscape in f/5.6-11 most of the time if you consider field curvature, distortion, colour rendering, smooth light/dark transition and sharpness? The colour of this Heliar looks nice.
Get the Heliar if you want decent performance in a tiny package. If you want the highest possible IQ, get the 35 APO. Given how affordable these lenses are, why not own several options
ggweci wrote:
This looks like a great lens, love the images posted here and the compact size. Considering it for my m240.
Have also long desires the Leica/Minolta 40mm f2 for similar reasons.
Between the two, outside of the extra stop of the latter, which would you all recommend? Main use would be family, travel, everyday scenarios.
The Summicron handles much better as the aperture ring does not move w the focus. So will be faster to use for pics of family. The CV has phenomenal flare protection, while the cron basically is cr@p for that.
The CV will basically be in new condition, while every Cron 40 I’ve seen - including mine- will have a lot of wear.
Desmolicious wrote:
The Summicron handles much better as the aperture ring does not move w the focus. So will be faster to use for pics of family. The CV has phenomenal flare protection, while the cron basically is cr@p for that.
The CV will basically be in new condition, while every Cron 40 I’ve seen - including mine- will have a lot of wear.
If Summicron 40/2 had MC it would be strong competitor especially for landscape which sharpness probably outperforms at f8-11 any 40mm Voigtlander... I have heard such claim. Would you agree with it?
What about CV Ultron 40mm f1.4 and how compares to this Heliar at the same f/stop?
Renes wrote:
If Summicron 40/2 had MC it would be strong competitor especially for landscape which sharpness probably outperforms at f8-11 any 40mm Voigtlander... I have heard such claim. Would you agree with it?
What about CV Ultron 40mm f1.4 and how compares to this Heliar at the same f/stop?
I have both the 40mm Summicron and the CV 40 2.8. The CV is sharper if that matters but you really have to look for it. In normal pics I cannot tell much difference. I also have the 40 1.2 and that is great too.
I would say the biggest advantage about getting the CV 40 2.8 is the flare resistance and it will not be beat up. Have you ever seen a 40 Cron that does not have a lot of 'patina'? Biggest disadvantage is the handling is much worse than the 40 Cron.
The new Voigtlander 27mm f/2 lens designed for Fuji APS-C cameras provides an angle of view and depth of field that are comparable to the Voigtlander 40mm f/2.8 Heliar lens used on full-frame cameras. Despite being slightly longer by 1.5mm, the 27mm lens remains almost the same size as the 40mm lens. One notable difference is its minimum focusing distance, which is 0.25m as opposed to the 0.7m of the 40mm lens.
When it comes to resolution and contrast, the 27mm lens follows a similar pattern and delivers sharpness across the entire field even when shooting wide open. In terms of rendering, I think the 27mm f/2 Ultron lens has more in common with the CV 35mm f/2 II Ultron, which I really like.
Desmolicious wrote:
The Summicron handles much better as the aperture ring does not move w the focus. So will be faster to use for pics of family. The CV has phenomenal flare protection, while the cron basically is cr@p for that.
The CV will basically be in new condition, while every Cron 40 I’ve seen - including mine- will have a lot of wear.
Thanks Huss. Appreciate the summary from your real world experience of both lenses. More thinking to do...
Desmolicious wrote:
I have both the 40mm Summicron and the CV 40 2.8. The CV is sharper if that matters but you really have to look for it. In normal pics I cannot tell much difference. I also have the 40 1.2 and that is great too.
I would say the biggest advantage about getting the CV 40 2.8 is the flare resistance and it will not be beat up. Have you ever seen a 40 Cron that does not have a lot of 'patina'? Biggest disadvantage is the handling is much worse than the 40 Cron.
Thanks. Yes, Cron is very prone to flare and I agree that Heliar 40/2.8 seems better choice... but I am worried about field curvature wavy towards infinity - from Fred test - which is improtant for landsape. Same issue has Voigt 40/1.2.
p.13 #10 · Voigtlander 40mm f/2.8 Heliar VM Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
The new Voigtlander 27mm f/2 lens designed for Fuji APS-C cameras provides an angle of view and depth of field that are comparable to the Voigtlander 40mm f/2.8 Heliar lens used on full-frame cameras. Despite being slightly longer by 1.5mm, the 27mm lens remains almost the same size as the 40mm lens. One notable difference is its minimum focusing distance, which is 0.25m as opposed to the 0.7m of the 40mm lens.
Thanks Fred.
Have you ever tested Nokton MC 40/1.4? Can't find field curvature test of it and how it compares to 40/2.8 Heliar - regarding landcape shooting.
Waiting for your full review of this small Voigt 27/2 - I have Fuji XE-3.
p.13 #11 · Voigtlander 40mm f/2.8 Heliar VM Review
Renes wrote:
Thanks. Yes, Cron is very prone to flare and I agree that Heliar 40/2.8 seems better choice... but I am worried about field curvature wavy towards infinity - from Fred test - which is improtant for landsape. Same issue has Voigt 40/1.2.
Why worry? FC at infinity with the 40 Heliar 2.8 is a known quantity and largely irrelevant by f/8. It's only an issue if you insist on having perfect IQ across the frame at f/5.6 or wider, in which case this would be the wrong tool for your needs. You're not getting that with a lot of M lenses anyway. Most are always sharper in the corners at f/8 than f/5.6. If you need wider apertures and high IQ, the APO is still the way to go.
Since the 40 2.8 is only $500 new, why not try it and return it if it doesn't work out for landscape?
p.13 #12 · Voigtlander 40mm f/2.8 Heliar VM Review
Desmolicious wrote:
Why worry? FC at infinity with the 40 Heliar 2.8 is a known quantity and largely irrelevant by f/8. It's only an issue if you insist on having perfect IQ across the frame at f/5.6 or wider, in which case this would be the wrong tool for your needs. You're not getting that with a lot of M lenses anyway. Most are always sharper in the corners at f/8 than f/5.6. If you need wider apertures and high IQ, the APO is still the way to go.
Since the 40 2.8 is only $500 new, why not try it and return it if it doesn't work out for landscape?...Show more →
p.13 #14 · Voigtlander 40mm f/2.8 Heliar VM Review
Lovely!
The Heliar gives lovely tones I think. At 40mm it also has such a relaxed view. It’s a great lens for ‘I think this looks interesting’ type photos. I would say your picture is a great example of what this lens does well. I’m a b&w shooter.
p.13 #15 · Voigtlander 40mm f/2.8 Heliar VM Review
Has anyone tried unscrewing the post that stops this lens from focusing closer than 0.7m in order to allow for closer focusing? I’m guessing that without the post, the lens barrel would keep rotating until it unscrews off the base. But if the lens would focus to at least 0.5m before coming off, it might be worth having the post relocated.
p.13 #16 · Voigtlander 40mm f/2.8 Heliar VM Review
highdesertmesa wrote:
Has anyone tried unscrewing the post that stops this lens from focusing closer than 0.7m in order to allow for closer focusing? I’m guessing that without the post, the lens barrel would keep rotating until it unscrews off the base. But if the lens would focus to at least 0.5m before coming off, it might be worth having the post relocated.
p.13 #19 · Voigtlander 40mm f/2.8 Heliar VM Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
Nice lighting!
How do you like your new Heliar?
I like it! I had a copy previously paired with the SL2-S. I sold it a while back but re-purchased it recently to use on the M11/M11M. I like it on the M11 even more as it's easier to focus with the rangefinder. Makes me wish my M11 was brass with black paint, though I plan to pair this with the 28 Color Skopar Type I so I have a super small matched 28/40 pair – probably with the 28 in silver so I can tell them apart more easily.
I plan to pair this with the 28 Color Skopar Type I so I have a super small matched 28/40 pair – probably with the 28 in silver so I can tell them apart more easily.
