p.11 #1 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Just ordered a couple to replace my A7rIV's. The new articulating LCD and IBIS are the deal maker for me, as well as the updated bulb mode. My hope is that they've also upgraded the intervalometer, which blows chunks, compared to the intervalometer in the Nikon D850 I had years ago. I only shoot landscapes, so the fps and whiz bang focus tracking of the A1 are a yawn for me.
p.11 #2 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
We wall want as much as we can get as cheap as we can get it. But this isn't the a1R (or a1 II for that matter), and yet Sony has added some nice features that aren't available in the a1 (and yes, those that are technically possibly through firmware would be great to have, but probably won't happen). It has also added some nice features above what the a7R IV offers. Is the price fair? Well, price is often determined by what the market will bear, weighed against the responsibilities of companies to their shareholders. If it doesn't sell well based on merits or price pressures from competition, then I imagine Sony will adjust. I bought the 5D, 5D II, a7R, a7R II and a7R III over the past 15 years...and this camera isn't REALLY out of line from a price perspective. With the shrinking market, companies aren't looking to pass efficiencies in R&D, production, etc to consumers via lower prices. They are trying to maintain profit based on higher margins with lower volume. And in terms of currency conversion, listen to any quarterly or yearly shareholder meeting, you'll hear things like "increased profit in xxx region partially due to currency conversion", or the opposite when currency differences swing the other direction. Camera pricing has never seemed directly tied to currency swings, which can be volatile at times.
Too expensive, not enough value, etc....all things that people need to weigh in deciding based on what makes sense for them.
p.11 #3 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Do we know 100% whether existing L brackets from any existing models will properly fit the a7R V? I assume not.
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p.11 #4 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
rdcny wrote:
"after accounting for inflation, the a7rv is actually cheaper than the a7riv was in 2019."
after you do sony pr, you would make a great russian troll. Go Ukraine - and please if no one buys this camera in the first few weeks, sony will magically drop the price - and still make a profit. $2995 tops. But I am staying with the A7R4
p.11 #5 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
I saw chatter on YouTube that the new screen does not interfere with L brackets, and I’m assuming that there are no L bracket specifically for this model out yet, so my inference is that the old ones should work.
tsdevine wrote:
Do we know 100% whether existing L brackets from any existing models will properly fit the a7R V? I assume not.
p.11 #6 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
I'm using the a7R III, which I know won't work. Which camera(s) L brackets in theory might work in that case? I realize there is no guarantee....and I'm not holding you to accuracy. Just trying to get a head start on researching it a little.
RoamingScott wrote:
I saw chatter on YouTube that the new screen does not interfere with L brackets, and I’m assuming that there are no L bracket specifically for this model out yet, so my inference is that the old ones should work.
p.11 #7 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Would assume Riv, but honestly would just wait for some release impressions/confirmation vs trusting some YouTubers who are rushing videos out.
You might ask Albert Dros here, he has both in hand right now.
tsdevine wrote:
I'm using the a7R III, which I know won't work. Which camera(s) L brackets in theory might work in that case? I realize there is no guarantee....and I'm not holding you to accuracy. Just trying to get a head start on researching it a little.
p.11 #8 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Great advice, thanks!
RoamingScott wrote:
Would assume Riv, but honestly would just wait for some release impressions/confirmation vs trusting some YouTubers who are rushing videos out.
You might ask Albert Dros here, he has both in hand right now.
p.11 #10 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
tsdevine wrote:
We wall want as much as we can get as cheap as we can get it. But this isn't the a1R (or a1 II for that matter), and yet Sony has added some nice features that aren't available in the a1 (and yes, those that are technically possibly through firmware would be great to have, but probably won't happen). It has also added some nice features above what the a7R IV offers. Is the price fair? Well, price is often determined by what the market will bear, weighed against the responsibilities of companies to their shareholders. If it doesn't sell well based on merits or price pressures from competition, then I imagine Sony will adjust. I bought the 5D, 5D II, a7R, a7R II and a7R III over the past 15 years...and this camera isn't REALLY out of line from a price perspective. With the shrinking market, companies aren't looking to pass efficiencies in R&D, production, etc to consumers via lower prices. They are trying to maintain profit based on higher margins with lower volume. And in terms of currency conversion, listen to any quarterly or yearly shareholder meeting, you'll hear things like "increased profit in xxx region partially due to currency conversion", or the opposite when currency differences swing the other direction. Camera pricing has never seemed directly tied to currency swings, which can be volatile at times.
Too expensive, not enough value, etc....all things that people need to weigh in deciding based on what makes sense for them....Show more →
The 5Dmk3 MSRP was $3,500 in 2012. Adjusted for inflation that's $4,525. So really we're getting a pretty good deal on these cameras.
Edit:
5D in 2005: $3300, adjusted for inflation: $5,015
5Dmk2 in 2008: $2700, adjusted for inflation: $3,725
p.11 #11 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Ubiquity99 wrote:
The 5Dmk3 MSRP was $3,500 in 2012. Adjusted for inflation that's $4,525. So really we're getting a pretty good deal on these cameras.
Edit:
5D in 2005: $3300, adjusted for inflation: $5,015
5Dmk2 in 2008: $2700, adjusted for inflation: $3,725
The 5D2 was a steal!
It was an incredibly innovative camera. I owned one and it took beautiful pictures when you could nail focus and ushered in the hybrid video camera concept.
p.11 #12 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Ubiquity99 wrote:
The 5Dmk3 MSRP was $3,500 in 2012. Adjusted for inflation that's $4,525. So really we're getting a pretty good deal on these cameras.
Edit:
5D in 2005: $3300, adjusted for inflation: $5,015
5Dmk2 in 2008: $2700, adjusted for inflation: $3,725
The 5D2 was a steal!
I've adjusted myself for inflation
Now, seriously, I do not want the administrator may think I'm a troll for any means:
Photography business has been itself falling in inflation as the times go by. I used to earn a fortune in the 90's, and now it is way a different story, so the point of view of a camera purchaser should bear in mind the amount of business a given purchase is going to made. Back in the Canon 5D times, the only worry was to find the best gear available, price was not a concern.
But let's be realistic: If I own a "humble" A7IV, I just can carry on my business perfectly, don't need the cream to accomplish my work.
Let's be a dreamer now: a A7RV plus a A7CII could easily make me happy... the question is... for how long? the answer is: I'm already happy with the gear I own.
And to finish, back to the topic: I could possibly buy one some day in the near future, if we can survive to a nuclear unpredictability and get some future. To me, in economics terms, it seems a good deal.
p.11 #13 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Justin Stone wrote:
It was an incredibly innovative camera. I owned one and it took beautiful pictures when you could nail focus and ushered in the hybrid video camera concept.
I had a 7D and a 5Dmk3. The shadow banding was the one thing I could never get past with that generation of Canons. It was so bad sometimes. I was so jealous of Nikon and their much cleaner shadows.
p.11 #14 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
arbitrage wrote:
I think Galer's final slide sums it up well if comparing A7RV vs A1...
I think that's fair...however I used my A1 earlier this week for some portrait work with my 135GM and couldn't be happier with the results. Also agree with others about the silent shutter being a draw (to me, at least) no matter what you're shooting.
But I'd also say that if you were strictly a landscape and portrait shooter the A7R5 would have a lot to offer assuming you'd use the new features.
p.11 #15 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
There are a lot of features that are tempting me to upgrade (autofocus, articulating screen, sensor dust removal, bulb, focus bracketing, etc) but I can't get over the paltry 7 e-shutter frames per second (for lossless raw images), which is lower than the ten I get with my ancient A7RIII and much much lower than the 20 FPS for the Canon R5. I don't need the A1's 30 fps, but 15 would have been nice! There is currently no mid-range Sony option with the combination of good resolution (> 30 MP) and good frames per second (> 10 e-fps). I suspect the A9III will have that combo but at a high price.
p.11 #16 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
The A1 DR is pretty good. I had the A7r3 and the A1 DR does not disappoint comparatively.
Ubiquity99 wrote:
I'm kind of in the same boat. Have an a7R3 and just can't pull the trigger on an A1 or an R5. I mostly do live aerial/burlesque photography so my primary concern is low-light DR and AF accuracy (think a person quickly spinning on an axis and the AF nailing their face). The nice thing about the A1 for me is that it deals with the nasty LED lighting I see at a lot of venues that makes me need mechanical shutter on my R3. But the R5 AI AF might deal with my spinning subjects better, hard to say. Plus neither of them even match the DR of the R3, so are either of them going to really improve my photos? If I knew that one or the other was going to nail focus significantly more often I'd say yes, but without actually trying it I can't say for certain.
I imagine the next A1 will probably be the current A1 sensor with the AI autofocus, improve IBIS, and new screen/viewfinder. That is probably the camera that would be my upgrade path, even without improved DR.
Question is how long is the wait for then next A1 going to be.
Wish I could borrow an R5 for a day and actually see how good the AF is. ...Show more →
p.11 #18 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
tsdevine wrote:
Do we know 100% whether existing L brackets from any existing models will properly fit the a7R V? I assume not.
It looks like the existing L-brackets fit: https://www.albertdros.com/post/the-new-a7rv (although RRS will probably tell you they don't, just so they can sell you a new one... )
I assume the current VG-C4EM battery grip is also compatible, but I haven't seen anything official to confirm that.
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