stgrove wrote:
What does “customizable FN button” exactly mean.
On the M-D Type 262, that button serves solely as a "function" button. Without an LCD or compatibility with an EVF, settings are only accessible and viewed through the optical viewfinder. Toggling the function button displays the number of shots left, battery level, and allows you to set the date. Also it lets you reset the camera, update firmware, and clean the sensor.
On the M11-D, this button might offer additional options, such as pairing the camera to FOTOS app, Wi-Fi, etc... I need to check that leaked M11-D manual again to be sure.
Look for all references to the number "5" to identify the specific functionality of the "custom" button. For the M11-D, Leica refers to it as the function button.
stgrove wrote:
Not familiar with M11D guide where is the 5 located? Thanks.
The small custom button next to the shutter button is called the "function" button on the Leica M-D and M11-D. This can be confusing because, on the regular M11 and M11-P, the same button can be customized.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Is anyone planning to get this one at launch? With taxes, it's likely to break the 10K barrier! Simplicity doesn't come cheap!
I blew my camera budget for this year already, but it would have been tempting otherwise. When I look back over the last year I spent with the M11M, I used the rear screen much more than I thought I would. I got to the point where I was using the LCD about 2/3 of the time and disregarding the rangefinder except for stopped down focusing. And this is from someone who has to put on readers every time I need to see closeup stuff. I think the lesson for me was that the LCD complicates the M experience. It would be nice to not be tempted to obsessively check focus, exposure, exact framing, and the digital level.
highdesertmesa wrote:
I blew my camera budget for this year already, but it would have been tempting otherwise. When I look back over the last year I spent with the M11M, I used the rear screen much more than I thought I would. I got to the point where I was using the LCD about 2/3 of the time and disregarding the rangefinder except for stopped down focusing. And this is from someone who has to put on readers every time I need to see closeup stuff. I think the lesson for me was that the LCD complicates the M experience. It would be nice to not be tempted to obsessively check exposure, exact framing, and the digital level....Show more →
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I don't get tempted as much, except when checking the battery level. That's what's cool about the "D" series cameras --- the battery level is displayed in the viewfinder. However, I'm wondering if I'd gain much in shooting experience with the M11-D, or if I should stick to using my M10-R with a half case that covers the LCD. (or just ignore the LCD)
My experience would still be the same: first, I set the ISO (either on the top or back), then the aperture (on the lens), and finally the shutter speed.
I also use the original M-D (currently under repair), which features ISO controls on the back. I think I would prefer it for its simplicity. It’s not compatible with any EVF or WiFi and lacks automatic functions.
I don't get tempted as much, except when checking the battery level. I'm wondering if I'd gain much from shooting with the M11-D or using my M10-R with a half case that covers the LCD.
My experience would still be the same: first, I set the ISO (either on the top or back), then the aperture (on the lens), and finally the shutter speed.
I also use the original M-D (currently under repair), which features ISO controls on the back. I think I would prefer it for its simplicity. It’s not compatible with any EVF or WiFi and lacks automatic functions.
I honestly think if you're disciplined about not reviewing pictures with your LCD covered (with the M10R BP, which is such a beautiful camera) and the fact you have your MD, this M11D is superfluous.
I used to have an M10D and the experience was very liberating (as you'd know with your MD), but once I got into the mindset of not reviewing pics or relying on live view, I felt I could apply that to the other cameras I had at that time. When I sold the camera, the biggest thing I missed was the foldable thumbrest. Sometimes I do miss the idea of the camera, but the appeal of the camera diminished from a practical standpoint over time. Now I just use my Nikon ZF with LCD folded on days I want to shoot with the M(10/11)D experience. There's still excitement when I review the pics at the end of the day, though it's always very tempting to flip the LCD round to check during the day. M11D would have a similar temptation though cause of the WiFi implementation, same as the M10D (in that sense the MD is really more "pure" in the film-like shooting sense).
I agree with everyone that with discipline, you could save yourself 9500 Euros. That’s expensive. Disclaimer: I’ve been tempted to buy a screenless M for a long time. There is absolutely a place for a screenless M in the lineup. One of these generations, I hope to own one. I would love to.
However, here’s what I’ve done to cure my GAS temptations:
- shoot with my film M body
- I turn my brightness of my M digital bodies down to the lowest setting to make them useless
- trust yourself and save the gratification for at home
I have to say it’s been easy to not look at my screen and it’s made the process so enjoyable. I bet people who own their D love it as would I. But if I can save money by changing my mentality, I will.
I think a screenless M also benefits some situation more than others. For example if I were shooting my children’s birthday parties, I would not want a screenless M to be my only camera. I’d need a screen to review, that’s just me. If you were shooting street, I bet the gratification is incredible coming home after a day of shooting.
