It was really interesting to watch the interview because I had never heard of Dietmar Stuible before. Apparently, he was part of the team that developed the SL APO primes and the zooms. We always hear about Peter, so it was refreshing to get a new perspective.
He also mentions that their techniques allow for double-sided asphericals, though it's not clear whether the Leica 35/1.2 Noct uses them. For comparison, the Nokton has two double-sided aspherical elements.
FrozenInTime wrote:
Clean night examples towards the end of this video :
Looking at many of the daytime street shots, in the rain, made me think of Saul Leiter, and what kind of wonderful results he might have produced with this lens, given the opportunity. Exhibiting that kind of character, which I don’t personally see from the 1.2 Nokton, and I’m not usually a huge fan of “character” lenses with this much correction.
Honestly in a lens like this- I am more intrested in wide open scenic shots vs bokeh. Its why I have grown to love the 24 Lux so much-
I think this lens can really play a fun role in creating a unique look if shot without trying to blow out a background. I am a bit annoyed that its not 15k because at 10k, I am snagging one.
Looking at the MTF, it's a plus that the lens delivers high contrast and even decent resolution at f/1.2 in the center. However, the corners show significant astigmatism. The tangential (dotted) lines in particular remain weak in the corners, even when stopped down to f/5.6.
I'm speaking strictly in technical terms, since we're allowed to critique a $10K lens!
I can tell from the samples that this offers cleaner—in terms of higher contrast and less LoCal—than the CV 35/1.2. I see some real snap and smoothness WO. Not really my jam nor am I in this market. I’d still like the FLE better, price aside.
Can’t say the images are that interesting—though props to Leica for the technical achievement at this size (but the price!).
Edward Teller wrote:
Looking at many of the daytime street shots, in the rain, made me think of Saul Leiter, and what kind of wonderful results he might have produced with this lens, given the opportunity. Exhibiting that kind of character, which I don’t personally see from the 1.2 Nokton, and I’m not usually a huge fan of “character” lenses with this much correction.
I really like what Jamie was able to produce/share in this video. I can get the Saul Leiter reference, even if he didn't shoot much at 35mm or wider angle of view (he was much more of a 50mm and short tele photographer), but the colors and vibe certainly draws the mind towards Saul, but that is probably also because of Jamie's processing style.
Thanks for posting this. I liked the technical information from Leica. I generally find Bobby insufferable and pretty biased to whoever is giving him stuff for his channel.
Triplets and doubled sided ASPH’s!
And now the minor refresh of the 35 FLE of the V2 makes more sense. Leica is not going to redo a FLE 1.4 that’s highly corrected in the ways this 35 Noct is and charge an extra 5k for .5 stops of light.
Fred Miranda wrote:
. One thing that stands out is that the focusing scale numbers on this 35mm lens look a bit unusual compared to typical 35/1.4 lenses. That's explained by the long 180-degree focus throw, which is about double that of most Leica 35mm f/1.4 lenses. Some photographers will enjoy the precision it offers, while others may find it a bit slow when moving from close to far subjects.
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Absolutely! The thing that annoys me most about the 50/0.95 after its weight is its slow focusing. It would be a shame if the 35/1.2 was just as slow for street use.
ftllens wrote:
@1bwana1@ would you happen to know the projected wait time on these? lol
No idea how long it will take for people to receive one. Since I already have the 35mm Summilux close focus my personal wait time is likely "not in this life". !
Ne314satel wrote:
Absolutely! The thing that annoys me most about the 50/0.95 after its weight is its slow focusing. It would be a shame if the 35/1.2 was just as slow for street use.
For street photography, another drawback is the lack of a focus tab, which I find essential.
FrozenInTime wrote:
It looks superb, correcting the flare and technical shortcomings of the old ASPH Summilux, but agree it also sometimes just looks too clean and digital, I would be inclined to also carry the 35mm steel rim reissue for its classic character, glow and flaws.
Oh wait, it looks like you can get one from the official store in a few days? Doesn't seem like you can reserve for store pick-up though. Or is this just pre-order?
I'm pretty satisfied with my FLE as well and don't have a black M atm, but still curious on the availabilities.
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Thanks for posting this. I liked the technical information from Leica. I generally find Bobby insufferable and pretty biased to whoever is giving him stuff for his channel.
Triplets and doubled sided ASPH’s!
And now the minor refresh of the 35 FLE of the V2 makes more sense. Leica is not going to redo a FLE 1.4 that’s highly corrected in the ways this 35 Noct is and charge an extra 5k for .5 stops of light.
The 35/1.2 Noct appears to have one triplet and four doublets, where the elements are cemented "glued" together. While this design can translate to improvements in IQ and aberration correction, it could pose a long-term concern. Cement can degrade or separate over time, particularly in humid conditions or high temperatures. We've seen with lenses from the past where it can cause fogging, yellowing, or bubbles between the elements. Some of this shows up in the images... These issues are difficult to address with a standard CLA.
Quite some girth but impressively shorter than I imagined. Images remind me more of the distagon than the nokton, but with softer bokeh? Not sure but it looks sharp, contrasty and clean.
Definitely too rich for my blood. New summilux prices would be my limit. I dunno how it even got this high
Why is it more expensive in EU than US? It's German, no? The Japanese companies at least take care of their own!
Desmolicious wrote:
YES! A reviewer who shoots it on film as well as digital!
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