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p.9 #1 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


The lesson, I think, is that the RX1R is a very lovely and very appealing camera that will make exceptionally beautiful photographs. But, like any other camera and lens, it has to be used appropriately, with an understanding of its strengths and inevitable limitations.


Aug 16, 2025 at 10:16 AM
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p.9 #2 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


chiron wrote:
The lesson, I think, is that the RX1R is a very lovely and very appealing camera that will make exceptionally beautiful photographs. But, like any other camera and lens, it has to be used appropriately, with an understanding of its strengths and inevitable limitations.


My fastest AF camera is the Sony A7CR, so I'm used to that incredible speed and reliability. But I also own the original RX1R, and I'm perfectly fine with its AF. I've learned to work within its limits, and it's actually rare for me to get an OOF shot. Even its old-school face detection still works, tracking faces with contrast detect. I trust it enough that I often shoot with an OVF and the screen turned off, which also makes the battery last much longer. Honestly, battery life is the main reason I prefer the RX1R over the RX1R II. The Mark II just eats through batteries faster because of the higher MP, PDAF, and the built-in EVF...all of which demand more power. Since these type of cameras if more for family shoots, the internal flash is another factor I prefer this model and the fact that it syncs at 1/2000s, makes it much more useful outdoors. On top of that, I really like the tilting EVF for close-up shooting. I removed the back rubber to make this EVF much more compact.

With the RX1R, I go back to basics. I just focus at the center, recompose, and never miss. If it's a person, face detect automatically locks on, and it still does the job even without checking the EVF or LCD. There's definitely some practice involved in adapting to the framing because of parallax error, but like you said, we learn from our gear's quirks...and it's actually fun not to expect the camera to do everything perfectly for you.

Sony had to upgrade the battery for the RX1R III to keep up with its more powerful processor and added features. Without it, you would be lucky to get 150 shots before the camera died. The new battery is definitely an improvement, but it comes at a cost since it added 18mm to the camera's depth, which is a huge jump that not many people mention (see image below). The surprising part is that it only provides about 30 more shots compared to the RX1R's battery, with Sony rating it at 300 shots versus 270. That really shows how much more power-hungry the RX1R III is. For context, the RX1R II's battery (same as RX1R) is rated even lower at around 220 shots.







Aug 16, 2025 at 10:32 AM
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p.9 #3 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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My fastest AF camera is the Sony A7CR, so I'm used to that incredible speed and reliability. But I also own the original RX1R, and I'm perfectly fine with its AF. I've learned to work within its limits, and it's actually rare for me to get an OOF shot. Even its old-school face detection still works, tracking faces with contrast detect. I trust it enough that I often shoot with an OVF and the screen turned off, which also makes the battery last much longer. Honestly, battery life is the main reason I prefer the RX1R over the RX1R
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I'm newly returned to Sony for the RX1R III, so have been actively exploring settings. Reading the AF issues on this thread yesterday, I ran a quick "chihuahua running at me" AF test in mediocre light at f/2 with restored factory settings and can easily reproduce the missed focus shots others are experiencing. However, I didn't run into perceivable issues from my first use shooting pickleball players (https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1168684/359#16861848) so explored the settings difference outside of the obvious forgiving dof at f/5.6 since f/2 was too bright with no ND.

Setting "AF-C priority" back to factory "Balanced" shooting at 5fps in the chihuahua test has an inconsistent firing tempo compared to setting "AF-C" to "Release" that I had originally changed, which fires smoothly with no hesitation between shots. Setting "AF-C" to "AF" has very bad delay between shots, it almost feels as if the buffer is full the delay is so bad, but I think it is causing the camera to confirm AF and shots are stuttering. "Release" had far better hit rate, fwiw, and I had this set originally and matches how the display seems to be in focus and results are acceptable (at f/5.6, and mostly at f/2) vs. "AF".

AF-C area from "Wide" to "Tracking" is much better, maybe AF tracking is predicting motion, but I think it's just better tracking with AF-C release priority. As an aside, the touch screen is *awesome* and maybe necessary to choose which subject to focus on, but it defaults to a single-point location even in AF-C that needs to be canceled by a button. Changing this to "Touch to Track" was the only thing I've needed to research in the manual and it is buried deep with a super unintuitive menu.

I thought the delay and missed focus could have been AF requiring open at f/2, then the time to close down for example to f/5.6 to release, but I do not perceive any delay and the f/5.6 shot results are superior.

As Fred points out, maybe the motor burns out on the aging Sonnar build, and I can confirm the tracking setting results in an audible constant motor sound so it is definitely working hard. This plus the cheap plastic door I taped shut and lack of weather sealing probably means the camera life and cost amortizing period is short, but hopefully the compact camera segment is reviving and there is hope for a replacement from any brand before this one dies. I'll certainly try to enjoy this EDC until then!



Aug 16, 2025 at 11:11 AM
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p.9 #4 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


After some weeks of using the RX1R MKIII and coming from the MkII, with a number of Fujis and the a7cR around, I must say that I am very pleased and impressed with what this little camera offers and delivers. For me, it is near perfect and I am using it almost exclusively now within he range of 35/50/70 mm focal lengths. The image quality is excellent (but with softer outer parts wide open at close distances). Handling is very familiar and similar to the a7cR. It is light and discrete.

There is only one thing I would like Sony to offer as a firmware update: A 2.5 and 3 times crop option in camera. Not sure Sony can work on how the cropped images look in the EVF (quite pixelated at 70mm). But that would be a nice addition.



Aug 18, 2025 at 03:52 AM
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The increased depth was discussed on FM.
We know that the 61mp sensor was responsible for a lot of that.
Maybe decisions for Sony were really easy:
More resolution needs greater body depth so lets stick with 42mp.
Hang on, recent, improved processor(s) use more power so we need a bigger battery.
2 birds, one stone. Put the bigger sensor in and make use of the extra depth for larger battery.

sebboh posted photos of the A7CR and original RX1R sensors and stated an increase of about 1/2 inch in depth (about 12.5mm)
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1909102/12#16852733

Fred Miranda wrote:
My fastest AF camera is the Sony A7CR, so I'm used to that incredible speed and reliability. But I also own the original RX1R, and I'm perfectly fine with its AF. I've learned to work within its limits, and it's actually rare for me to get an OOF shot. Even its old-school face detection still works, tracking faces with contrast detect. I trust it enough that I often shoot with an OVF and the screen turned off, which also makes the battery last much longer. Honestly, battery life is the main reason I prefer the RX1R over the
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Aug 18, 2025 at 04:25 AM
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p.9 #6 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


Choderboy wrote:
The increased depth was discussed on FM.
We know that the 61mp sensor was responsible for a lot of that.
Maybe decisions for Sony were really easy:
More resolution needs greater body depth so lets stick with 42mp.
Hang on, recent, improved processor(s) use more power so we need a bigger battery.
2 birds, one stone. Put the bigger sensor in and make use of the extra depth for larger battery.

sebboh posted photos of the A7CR and original RX1R sensors and stated an increase of about 1/2 inch in depth (about 12.5mm)
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1909102/12#16852733



But sebboh's post is looking at the A7Cr sensor that has IBIS. It is not at all clear that the new sensor in the RX1R III adds any depth. The eyepiece for the new EVF might have added a little of the added depth of the camera, the battery almost certainly added a little, and the sensor may have added a little (but I am not convinced of that). What sebboh's post shows is that adding IBIS would almost certainly have made the camera quite a bit deeper still.

I think adding this depth of what have been worth it, but Sony apparently did not and a lot of people around here seem to think Sony made the right decision.



Aug 18, 2025 at 05:57 AM
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kalani_kane wrote:
I'm newly returned to Sony for the RX1R III, so have been actively exploring settings. Reading the AF issues on this thread yesterday, I ran a quick "chihuahua running at me" AF test in mediocre light at f/2 with restored factory settings and can easily reproduce the missed focus shots others are experiencing. However, I didn't run into perceivable issues from my first use shooting pickleball players (https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1168684/359#16861848) so explored the settings difference outside of the obvious forgiving dof at f/5.6 since f/2 was too bright with no ND.

Setting "AF-C priority" back to factory "Balanced" shooting at 5fps in the
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I have found that this applies to most Sony cameras (A7R5, A1, A1 II, etc). I believe that it was Mark Galer that got me to change from "Balanced Emphasis" to "Release". When I did, my percentage of action shots with critical focus increased dramatically. I know... it sounds completely counter-intuitive!!



Aug 18, 2025 at 07:11 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
But sebboh's post is looking at the A7Cr sensor that has IBIS. It is not at all clear that the new sensor in the RX1R III adds any depth. The eyepiece for the new EVF might have added a little of the added depth of the camera, the battery almost certainly added a little, and the sensor may have added a little (but I am not convinced of that). What sebboh's post shows is that adding IBIS would almost certainly have made the camera quite a bit deeper still.

I think adding this depth of what have been worth
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correct, the 1/2 inch comment was about IBIS, but you can see that location of the sensor plane is moved closer to the front of the camera in the mark III version and that the lens sticks out further by a corresponding amount. this indicates they needed more space behind the sensor than with the older versions (this is probably why the flip up LCD disappeared too). there is no reason adding the bigger battery requires more space between the sensor and the LCD, it makes more ergonomic sense to just put a little bulge in the grip to make room for the battery.



Aug 18, 2025 at 11:46 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
The new battery is definitely an improvement, but it comes at a cost since it added 18mm to the camera's depth, which is a huge jump that not many people mention (see image below).


I think the RX1rIII's stated specs from Sony include the large eye cup. There's no way it's 18mm deeper. Also, take a look at the height dimension--the RX1rII is a bit taller from the top dials, but the spec says otherwise. Here's a real-world picture that compares the two:

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/real-life-comparison-between-the-sony-rx1riii-and-the-10-year-old-rx1rii/



Aug 18, 2025 at 12:27 PM
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13 years old? Why do I feel like my rx ONE is younger than that. Then I remember it’s not, it’s eve a year older at 2012 release Which is remarkable. Because I’m still debating if I like the Fuji x100vi enough for af, weather sealing, etc, to give it up. The rendering is still so good. I suppose I won’t get enough second hand for the rx1 and evf to bother selling it anyway.

Mine even looks pretty new, though I can’t remember if the pain was white and it’s yellowed a bit or if it was always off white.

I really wish they didn’t step backwards from the rx1r ii with the tilt screen.

Fred Miranda wrote:
It's really down to the motor. The RX1R III seems to have an excellent AF system with AI and PDAF tracking, but the lens is still running on motor tech from over a decade ago, so it's worth keeping our expectations in check.. That older design simply isn't as quick or responsive as what you'll find in newer lenses. Honestly, it's no surprise since Sony used the exact same lens that's on my 13-year-old RX1R.

When a subject moves toward the camera, the AF system knows exactly where focus should be, but the motor has to physically move the
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I think the RX1rIII's stated specs from Sony include the large eye cup. There's no way it's 18mm deeper. Also, take a look at the height dimension--the RX1rII is a bit taller from the top dials, but the spec says otherwise. Here's a real-world picture that compares the two:

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/real-life-comparison-between-the-sony-rx1riii-and-the-10-year-old-rx1rii/


I'm not sure exactly how much thicker it is since I haven't measured it myself, just going by Sony's specs. I'm sure Sony's marketing wants the numbers to make the camera look as compact as possible, since that's part of the appeal. But I did see a video where someone put the "new" battery in the RX1RIII, and you can clearly see it's thicker mainly because the new battery is a lot bulkier than the old NP-BX1.



Aug 18, 2025 at 02:25 PM
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p.9 #12 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


7.5Wh is better than 4.5Wh ever was.

EBH



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p.9 #13 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


EB-1 wrote:
7.5Wh is better than 4.5Wh ever was.

EBH


Good point, the extra capacity is definitely welcome. But the RX1RIII really needs that higher energy capacity since it has to power a 61MP sensor, newer and faster processors, much improved AF and a much higher-resolution screen. That's why Sony couldn't keep using the old NP-BX1 like they did in the R2...it was already a weak spot there. The thin battery was mainly to keep the body as slim as possible when they first designed the RX1, but as the specs keep improving, that just isn't realistic anymore. In the end, even with the new battery, you do not gain much in terms of shots per charge according to Sony's own specs, only about 30 more shots compared to the RX1R with its 4.5Wh battery.



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I had the Rx1RIII for a couple weeks. Sent it back today.

I so wanted to like it, but at the end of the day a couple things made the decision:

- I've really gotten used to an articulating screen on the a1m2. Everyone is different but this has come to make getting odd angles much more fun for me. Especially for an EDC camera.
- f/5.6 was "almost" sharp to the outer 1/3 of the frame. f/8 was where it looked good. But f/8 is kinda slow.

The small size of FF was great. I'm looking forward to picking up the Rx1RIV.



Aug 18, 2025 at 07:38 PM
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Optimistic! I’m not sure I’ll be alive when that comes out, or that they won’t scrap the line in favour of a 3d / holo film line for creators (that alsomakes cupcakes) by the time they’re ready to release it in 2040.



The articulating screen missing is the reason I didn’t bother, probably the rest I could have lived with. Thanks for your thoughts.

SteveF wrote:
I'm looking forward to picking up the Rx1RIV.




Aug 19, 2025 at 02:27 AM
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SteveF wrote:
I had the Rx1RIII for a couple weeks. Sent it back today.

I so wanted to like it, but at the end of the day a couple things made the decision:

- I've really gotten used to an articulating screen on the a1m2. Everyone is different but this has come to make getting odd angles much more fun for me. Especially for an EDC camera.
- f/5.6 was "almost" sharp to the outer 1/3 of the frame. f/8 was where it looked good. But f/8 is kinda slow.

The small size of FF was great. I'm looking forward to picking up the Rx1RIV.


I don't see F8 landscape sharpness is a problem at all if you not crop. For cropping better to stick with f4, f5.6 for maximum resolution. There are sharper lenses, but not with f2 maximum aperture in this size.



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I used mine for two weeks and will be sending it back. I have loved old RX1's for years and really wanted to love this camera. It takes great photos, size is wonderful and is quite. I shoot a lot in the day and around the water. I wear polarized glasses and when I flip the screen, it doesn't show. A huge pain that not many people will deal with. I own the A7Cii and using the small G lens and 35 2.8 and I just cant justify having both. I also swear the Cii AF is better with the above lens.

Man, it was almost there but little things for 5K just don't seem logical for me.

-Dave



Aug 19, 2025 at 09:03 AM
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Got my RX1RIII yesterday - overall I'm liking it. To me the value proposition is if you want a Fuji X100VI but with better image quality and autofocus, this is it. I would say the image quality is much closer in quality to the Q3 43mm than it is to the X100VI. However, size wise it's about on par with the X100VI - once you add a filter thread adapter, the X100VI gives up a good amount of compactness.

The overall speed and usability of the camera is also noticeably better than the Leica Q3, GFX100RF, and X100VI. Ergonomicswise, it's better than what I remembered on the original RX1R when I tried that. The size is also refreshingly smaller compared to the full frame and MF alternatives.

This is certainly not a value for your money leading product but if you have the budget for it, it's quite good as an every day carry type camera. It probably could have used a refreshed lens, IBIS, or a lower price but the size difference gives it a clear differential to something like the A7CR or the Q3. Personally, I wish they took the body and slapped on a 28mm f2.8 lens with IBIS but the 35mm f2 is still a solid lens despite its age.



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tzhang4284 wrote:
Personally, I wish they took the body and slapped on a 28mm f2.8 lens with IBIS but the 35mm f2 is still a solid lens despite its age.


The only selling point of this camera the F2 AF lens in that size, covering FF sensor. However even they stick with lens design, at least upgrade the AF motor.



Aug 20, 2025 at 03:44 PM
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recently got the TTartisans 40/2, which i believe is the smallest f/2 AF lens you can put on an a7cr and was comparing the size to that of an rx1.

it looks close from this perspective:






but not from this one:






even without AF the closest i could get was this:






using the rollei 40/2.3 that is a bit smaller than the 40mm summicron. none of the tiny lenses really compare well to the rx1 lens.



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