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p.5 #1 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


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Do you get PureRAW with PL9 or is there any benefit to buying both?


No benefit to buying both that I'm aware of, PureRAW's functionality is already part of PL9.



Dec 11, 2025 at 02:37 PM
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p.5 #2 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


The Rat wrote:
No benefit to buying both that I'm aware of, PureRAW's functionality is already part of PL9.


Thanks. I guess I'll just upgrade my PL license then. I'm still at 5 or 6, so this should be a decent upgrade.



Dec 11, 2025 at 02:57 PM
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p.5 #3 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


If you don't have at least 8, then 9 will be a big improvement. I think you have to buy a full version if more than two versions back.
I decided to stay with 8 for a while since 9 doesn't change the denoise model.

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Dec 13, 2025 at 06:33 PM
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p.5 #4 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


I downloaded the trials of both Photolab 9 and DXO PureRaw6 a couple of days ago and tried them out on a few images and did a comparison to LR Classic on one image. At the end of the trial period, I will make a decision on whether or not to purchase one or the other and have it in addition to Adobe products.

At this point, I feel that I need more time to work with DXO's products to be able to have a better feel for the tools as I am still fumbling around a bit. That said, I worked on an image in four different ways to look at the differences:
1. LR only
2. PureRaw6 (DeepPrimeXD3) export compressed dng -> LR editing
3. PL9 for NR and details, export compressed dng -> LR editing
4. PL9 for all edits, export as tiff -> LR (no further edits in LR, just to include the edited image in the Library for ease of comparison with the other images)

Here are a few of my initial impressions:

1. DXO PL9 has really good AI masking and it is a little better than the object masking in LR, particularly for things that have irregular edges like animals. On my main trial image, which was a leopard, DXO PL 9 did a better job than LR on masking the whiskers and fur. It was not a night and day difference, but it was better.

2. DXO PL 9 has a few more adjustments for the RAW processing than PureRaw6 does and I was able to extract a little more detail with PL 9 and it was a touch cleaner. Both PL 9 and PureRaw6 were able to pull out more detail than LR. PL 9 produced the most natural looking detail of the various options.

3. While I don't yet understand all of the masking options in PL 9, it does seem that there is no radial gradient masking tool, which I use extensively in LR. It may well be that one of their options can do this but I just have not figured it out yet.

4. In order to do split toning in PL 9, you have to buy DXO FilmPack to enable that tool. LR has this without needing to pay for a separate tool.

5. From what I can tell, the PL 9 optimization for cameras and lenses works really well and may be the reason why it can pull out the better detail than the other two options. Of course, this only works for camera bodies and lenses that they include.

6. The test image is of a leopard yawning. The DXO noise reduction removed color from the bright moist areas of the leopard's mouth whereas LR did not. These areas are reflected light and not noise.

I will show the results for the dng files, but not the tiff that was saved from PL 9. The crops are not identical, but close. Also, the less cropped images have already been cropped a little, but not a huge amount. In order: large image edited in LR only, large image edited in PL9 for noise and detail then exported as compressed dng to LR for editing with no further sharpening, large image edited in PureRaw for noise and detail then exported as compressed dng for editing in LR with no further sharpening, followed by the same images cropped for detail. Interestingly, in the saved cropped images, the PureRaw image appears a little oversharpened when saved to jpg. No additional export sharpening was done on the jpg files when saved from LR.

I hope that this can be a little bit helpful for anyone who might be looking at DXO software either as an alternative to or to use in conjunction with Adobe products. Obviously, this is just a first comparison on my end without expensive experience with DXO products, so it is not the be-all end-all of comparisons.





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Apr 11, 2026 at 10:54 AM
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p.5 #5 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


Abuttolph wrote:
I downloaded the trials of both Photolab 9 and DXO PureRaw6 a couple of days ago and tried them out on a few images and did a comparison to LR Classic on one image. At the end of the trial period, I will make a decision on whether or not to purchase one or the other and have it in addition to Adobe products.

At this point, I feel that I need more time to work with DXO's products to be able to have a better feel for the tools as I am still fumbling around a bit. That said, I
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3. ...it does seem that there is no radial gradient masking tool, which I use extensively in LR. It may well be that one of their options can do this but I just have not figured it out yet.

the Control Point (second from the left in the list of masks) might be the closest to what you are looking for. Unfortunately, the shape of this mask cannot be changed, but one can apply several Control Points to cover an area that is non-circular. Note that this mask is both Luma and Croma controlled, thus the two sliders can be adjusted for the mask to include more or less a certain color and/or a certain tonal range.

4. In order to do split toning in PL 9, you have to buy DXO FilmPack to enable that tool. LR has this without needing to pay for a separate tool.

This is an extra expense (however, perpetual). FilmPack integrates with DxO Photolab 9, and you gain additional options: a collection of frames and Fine Contrast with separate sliders that change this correction in Highlights, Midtones, and Shadows. This is a one-time expense, and it might be worth adding.

Photolab 9 has more value than PureRaw6.
Comparing PL9 with LR is more tricky. My impression is that specifically for a wildlife (including birds) photographer, PL9 might be a very good quality alternative to LR. This may or may not be the case for other genres of photography (landscapes, portraits, etc.).



Apr 11, 2026 at 12:55 PM
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p.5 #6 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


DXO filmpack also adds luminosity masking. Another plus for DXO PL are its excellent lens profiles, as long as the camera lens combination is supported. The High-Fidelity compression is amazing.

What I dont quite understand, is they restricted the DNG output, and the option to preserve all edits has been removed.

https://forum.dxo.com/t/back-to-9-5-to-preserve-all-the-correction-applied-in-dng-redzeppelin-rz/54886



Apr 11, 2026 at 10:50 PM
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3. ...it does seem that there is no radial gradient masking tool, which I use extensively in LR. It may well be that one of their options can do this but I just have not figured it out yet.

the Control Point (second from the left in the list of masks) might be the closest to what you are looking for. Unfortunately, the shape of this mask cannot be changed, but one can apply several Control Points to cover an area that is non-circular. Note that this mask is both Luma and Croma controlled, thus the two sliders can be adjusted
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Thanks for the information and perspective. I will give the control points a try - thanks for mentioning those and where they are located. Maybe DXO will integrate radial gradient masks in the future which will simplify masking.

The FilmPack does indeed seem like it would be a worthwhile add-on as the additional tools that become enabled would really be useful. The Fine Contrast and Split Toning together would make it worthwhile.

I may go ahead and buy both PL9 and the FilmPack once the trial period is over, although I may wait until DXO has a sale.



Apr 12, 2026 at 11:06 AM
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p.5 #8 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


Abuttolph wrote:
Thanks for the information and perspective. I will give the control points a try - thanks for mentioning those and where they are located. Maybe DXO will integrate radial gradient masks in the future which will simplify masking.

The FilmPack does indeed seem like it would be a worthwhile add-on as the additional tools that become enabled would really be useful. The Fine Contrast and Split Toning together would make it worthwhile.

I may go ahead and buy both PL9 and the FilmPack once the trial period is over, although I may wait until DXO has a sale.


When I recall right, DXO PL9 was released in September last year. I would expect the new version to be released in about 5 month.

PhotographyLife just published an excellent review of DXO PL 9. They got a 15% off coupon for new DXO users, at the end of the review.

https://photographylife.com/reviews/dxo-photolab-9

Unfortunately for me, DXO PL9 is not able to read Nikon stacked NEFX files. Capture One and Adobe PS/LR Adobe Camera RAW read them without problems.




Apr 12, 2026 at 08:52 PM
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p.5 #9 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


pete478888 wrote:
When I recall right, DXO PL9 was released in September last year. I would expect the new version to be released in about 5 month.

PhotographyLife just published an excellent review of DXO PL 9. They got a 15% off coupon for new DXO users, at the end of the review.

https://photographylife.com/reviews/dxo-photolab-9

Unfortunately for me, DXO PL9 is not able to read Nikon stacked NEFX files. Capture One and Adobe PS/LR Adobe Camera RAW read them without problems.



Thanks for the link and for noting the discount as well. I will take a look at the review today.

That is unfortunate on the Nikon stacked NEFX files. DXO PL9 also does not read dng files from Leica monochrom cameras either. I doubt it reads raw files from any monochrome camera for that matter.

I was also wondering about the ability to tell PL9 which lens is being used if there is no lens data in the dng file. Obviously, they don't have every lens ever made in their lens optimization database, but for people who adapt lenses with dumb adapters, is it possible to select the lens from a menu? I cannot find a way to do that.



Apr 13, 2026 at 09:47 AM
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Abuttolph wrote:
I was also wondering about the ability to tell PL9 which lens is being used if there is no lens data in the dng file. Obviously, they don't have every lens ever made in their lens optimization database, but for people who adapt lenses with dumb adapters, is it possible to select the lens from a menu?



Not possible unfortunately.



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I'm in a similar situation to you. I use Adobe Lightroom to process my images and I'm looking at adding either PureRAW or PhotoLab.

Questions / points:
- Does PhotoLab include the ability to do batch processing (parallel) like PureRaw
- I understand the PL also creates a dop file which is not present when using PureRaw (I assume to store the processing steps). Can you use PL in a PureRaw mode where the dng conversion is the only process and the DNG saved back to LR?
- Can you further edit the DNG files from PL without any special considerations?
- Did you consider the film pack for additional controls in PL?

For my part, I am most interested in the DNG conversion and would do that for most images. However, for those more difficult images, I would really like to have the additional features of PL to get the best possible image from my source. My options are

PureRAW
PhotoLab
PhotoLab + FilmPack

I think whichever I choose I will add the Nik filters too. This can get expensive!

What was your final decision? Did you go with PureRAW or PhotoLab? FilmPack? Any regrets?



Apr 14, 2026 at 12:09 AM
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jwpstl wrote:
Not possible unfortunately.


Thanks. That is too bad, but I suspect that they have the optimizations build for specific combinations of lenses and bodies. I would love it if lenses could be selected separately.



Apr 14, 2026 at 10:53 AM
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Gary Udstrand wrote:
I'm in a similar situation to you. I use Adobe Lightroom to process my images and I'm looking at adding either PureRAW or PhotoLab.

Questions / points:
- Does PhotoLab include the ability to do batch processing (parallel) like PureRaw
- I understand the PL also creates a dop file which is not present when using PureRaw (I assume to store the processing steps). Can you use PL in a PureRaw mode where the dng conversion is the only process and the DNG saved back to LR?
- Can you further edit the DNG files from PL without any special considerations?
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I cannot answer all of your questions but undoubtedly someone else with more knowledge can chime in and provide answers.

Yes, you can use PL in the same mode as PureRaw and then save the file as a dng and have it automatically go back to LR. I did that on a few images in which I had PL work on the noise only, then saved as compressed dng which went back into LR. The key to the LR element is to open PL (or PureRaw for that matter) from within LR with the image selected that you want to move between the editors.

Yes, you can then further edit the dng file just as you would any other raw image. One thing to note: if you do any edits other than noise reduction (color, exposure, etc) and save the file as a dng, those edits will not port over to LR. The file needs to be saved in another format such as a tiff file in order for those changes to be recognized in LR.

I have not made a decision yet on purchasing. From my limited experience, it does seem that PL can pull out more detail and have it look cleaner than either LR or PureRaw. I will wait until the end of my trial to make a decision. Plus, I still want to download and try FilmPack. I was able to find bundle pricing on DXO's website for certain combinations of their products. With those and the 15% discount from the link posted in a comment above, the price does drop somewhat.




Apr 14, 2026 at 11:03 AM
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p.5 #14 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


I use PL9, have been considering getting the FilmPack.


This seems to provide a workaround within PL9 for luminosity masking. Anyone know if this is a lesser method? Or can you get the same results with the Luminosity UI in FilmPack?




Apr 14, 2026 at 12:57 PM
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Abuttolph wrote:
I cannot answer all of your questions but undoubtedly someone else with more knowledge can chime in and provide answers.

Yes, you can use PL in the same mode as PureRaw and then save the file as a dng and have it automatically go back to LR. I did that on a few images in which I had PL work on the noise only, then saved as compressed dng which went back into LR. The key to the LR element is to open PL (or PureRaw for that matter) from within LR with the image selected that you want to move
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Regarding " if you do any edits other than noise reduction (color, exposure, etc) and save the file as a dng, those edits will not port over to LR."

Actually, there are several corrections that are saved when a raw file is converted to DNG:
Denoise, Retouch, Reshape, Optical Corrections (Lens Softness, Vignetting, Distortion, Chromatic Aberrations), Perspective, Horizon, Crop, and Red Eyes.

Another relevant point is that converting raw to dng in Photolab or PureRAW means that demosaicing is done by DxO.
The demosaicing algorithms are proprietary, and to the best of my understanding, demosaicing in LR is done differently.

In my usage, I work with Photolab 9 and Capture One, and 90% of my photos are landscapes, street, and environmental portraits. There are two useful features in Capture One that make me do most corrections in this app: One is auto Levels, and the other is what they call HDR tool, to correct White, Highlights, Shadows, and Black. These are highly (surgically?) selective (e.g., White and Black apply only to the extremes and do not affect Highlights and Shadows). Thus, often an image can be corrected with just these tools without masking. The related corrections (highlights, midtones, shadows, and black) in Photolab 9 can be described as crude in comparison to the same in Capture One. To me, this is the "Achilles' heel" of Photolab 9.

Having said the above, I believe that this problem should be relatively unimportant when working with wildlife photos. Thus, for a wildlife photographer, Photolab 9 is recommended without reservations.



Apr 14, 2026 at 02:20 PM
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Abuttolph wrote:
I cannot answer all of your questions but undoubtedly someone else with more knowledge can chime in and provide answers.

Yes, you can use PL in the same mode as PureRaw and then save the file as a dng and have it automatically go back to LR. I did that on a few images in which I had PL work on the noise only, then saved as compressed dng which went back into LR. The key to the LR element is to open PL (or PureRaw for that matter) from within LR with the image selected that you want to move
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If I understand this correctly, all edits in PureRAW port over as a DNG. If the changes in PhotoLab are limited to the same set of corrections as PureRAW they also port over to Lightroom? Can you batch process images with PhotoLab similar to PureRAW?

One last question, if I understand correctly, the DxO software corrects based on the lens and the body. I currently use a bunch of EF gear and have not moved to the R series yet (but plan to do so in the near future). Will Dxo correct images from ah R5 Mark II using EF glass with an adapter? Maybe all this is for naught, and I should just stick with Lightroom/Photoshop?

Thank you for sharing your insights and experience. :-)



Apr 14, 2026 at 07:15 PM
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Many Canon EF lenses have profiles for R5 and R5 II etc. They work great. Even Sigma EF lenses also. There should bea list at Dxo. There may be less compatibility for 80s and 90s lenses.

EBH



Apr 14, 2026 at 07:24 PM
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Gary Udstrand wrote:
If I understand this correctly, all edits in PureRAW port over as a DNG. If the changes in PhotoLab are limited to the same set of corrections as PureRAW they also port over to Lightroom? Can you batch process images with PhotoLab similar to PureRAW?

One last question, if I understand correctly, the DxO software corrects based on the lens and the body. I currently use a bunch of EF gear and have not moved to the R series yet (but plan to do so in the near future). Will Dxo correct images from ah R5 Mark II using EF
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Photolab does batch process raw files - this is done by selecting files and clicking on Export.

For specific questions such as about lens profiles, it is best to download Photolab - it is free to use for 30 days. This gives enough time to evaluate the software.



Apr 14, 2026 at 07:40 PM
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p.5 #19 · DXO PhotoLab 9 with new AI Mask Technology


PL RAW conversion with AI NR is great for large numbers of images since it is so much faster than Adobe.
I don't have access to exact numbers, but you can process about 1500-3000 RAW 45MP images to 16-bit TIFFs per hour depending on the GPU and NR mode. PL allows you set the level of parallel processes, but 2 is the suggested setting.

EBH



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Does anyone know when DXO PL will support the Sony a7rVI?

EBH



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