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p.4 #1 · It's happening again


Hodie wrote:
I go through this cycle pretty regularly. The cycles don't always come in the same shapes or sizes.


For me, the cycle issue is more interesting than the gear questions. (Even our OP, who begins with a gear-related question, later confirms that this is more about sustaining interest in the medium of photography.)

As a person whose entire career has been in so-called creative fields (music and photography) I learned years ago that this cycle is almost inevitable. With variations, it runs something like this:

1. You aspire to be good at some form of creative work because you are fascinated by it. Initially, that world is full of exciting, new things — people, activities, equipment, events, discovery. Every thing is new and exciting, and it is exhilarating!

2. As you get more engaged with the creative endeavor, at some point you start to feel a level of competence. In fact, you probably do something that you feel quite good about, and perhaps you even get some positive feedback from others. “Hey, I think I’m pretty good at this!”

3. But there’s a “problem.” Once you do that the goalposts move, and whatever quality of work first brought that reward begins to seem… not that amazing. The ante is upped, and it takes more to achieve the same degree of satisfaction. Achieving the “creative high” that you experienced before not comes at a higher cost.

This is the pivotal moment, a point when frustration can take over, with feelings of “maybe I’m not as good as I thought I was” and “this isn’t as fun as I remember.”

This is actually normal and a predictable aspect of creative work. There are exciting periods when everything just seems to come easily, often alternating with periods of doubt and difficulty.

What happens next is the key.

There’s no right answer, and in some cases, quite honestly, that initial experience may be the end of the engagement with the activity. That’s not necessarily a bad thing — we all travel down dead end paths on occasion, reverse course, and head in a different direction.

But for creatives who really want to grow that isn’t an option. So you have to find a way to come to terms with this cycle.

I first “got it” some years back at a presentation by photographer Huntington Witherell at the Center for Photographic Art in Carmel. He had a show there and did a presentation on his work, and afterwards took questions. Someone asked, more or less, “now what?” He said that he was done with the particular work in the show, that he wasn’t sure what would come next, but that given time he was confident that it would reveal itself.

Accepting the cycle and continuing to “do the work” can get you through these low periods in the cycle and on to the next positive phase, and it helps to know that this is a normal thing.

Good luck.

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Oct 02, 2025 at 09:19 AM
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p.4 #2 · It's happening again


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https://www.tamron.com/global/consumer/lenses/a068/

Tamron 17-40/4


Oh, you mean the Tamron 17-50 f/4. I hadn't paid any attention to that lens. That is an interesting lens. That might even be better than the 16-35 f/2.8 GM II to pair with the Sony 70-300 f/4.5-5.6. I would worry about the 17-50's weaknesses on the wide end (super high almost 10% distortion that is a mustache pattern and 4 stops of vignetting). Normally these correct well in camera, but once distortion is over 5% and vignetting is over 3 stops, I start to wonder if the images will be affected. I would want to see reports from people I trust before I would feel comfortable with that lens. Have you used it? I have seen exactly zero reports from actually users here on FM. But it certainly is a possibility and a potentially interesting lens. If the Fuji kit doesn't deliver what I want to replace it I will definitely look into that lens more.



Oct 02, 2025 at 09:34 AM
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Before my son graduated school, my photography hobby would be reserved for mostly travel only. I'd do it every day while traveling, and do other hobbies at home.

I disagree that phones have gotten good. They are only good if you only look at them on a phone screen and don't zoom for details. The photos absolutely fall apart with any inspection, and the fakery makes them sometimes look absolutely awful.

That being said, it is also ok to move on from hobbies. In a recent life transition, I sold off my entire 350+ boardgame collection. Sometimes hobbies only last for a time in our lives.



Oct 02, 2025 at 09:54 AM
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p.4 #4 · It's happening again


gdanmitchell wrote:
Accepting the cycle and continuing to “do the work” can get you through these low periods in the cycle and on to the next positive phase, and it helps to know that this is a normal thing.


Yes, precisely. My mother is an artist (oil painting). There are periods (years) where she does not paint. In fact, she had her last exhibition in Atami, Japan a few years ago and she decided no more after that. Granted, she's 80+ and no longer has anything to express at a professional level. I think she's now at the point of observing and interacting with the world vs. capturing it and expressing it in her own vision.



Oct 02, 2025 at 10:21 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Oh, you mean the Tamron 17-50 f/4. I hadn't paid any attention to that lens. That is an interesting lens. That might even be better than the 16-35 f/2.8 GM II to pair with the Sony 70-300 f/4.5-5.6. I would worry about the 17-50's weaknesses on the wide end (super high almost 10% distortion that is a mustache pattern and 4 stops of vignetting). Normally these correct well in camera, but once distortion is over 5% and vignetting is over 3 stops, I start to wonder if the images will be affected. I would want to see reports from
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I am not a fan of the Sony 70-300 btw, I feel its kinda expensive for what it is. Doesnt do 120fps despite the Sony badge.
The Tamron 70-300 is much cheaper and optically kinda comparable



I think the Tamron 50-300 is a better lens than the Tamron 70-300. Better AF motors, some macro capability, has stabilization



The 70-350G is a bit of a dark horse, I have friends who use this as their lightweight kit together with the A1 (main lens is the 100-400GM). It covers FF for a good part of the zoom range, and is 120fps capable.

However they use it more for sports / wildlife. My gut feeling is that 50-300 is going to be better for landscape.




Oct 02, 2025 at 10:52 AM
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Posted an hour ago

She was in a creative rut. Then she got an old point-and-shoot.

https://www.dpreview.com/videos/7318052560/jasmine-quinones-searches-for-a-fujifilm-xq2-point-and-shoot




Oct 02, 2025 at 11:07 AM
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aCuria wrote:
I am not a fan of the Sony 70-300 btw, I feel its kinda expensive for what it is. Doesnt do 120fps despite the Sony badge.
The Tamron 70-300 is much cheaper and optically kinda comparable



I think the Tamron 50-300 is a better lens than the Tamron 70-300. Better AF motors, some macro capability, has stabilization



The 70-350G is a bit of a dark horse, I have friends who use this as their lightweight kit together with the A1 (main lens is the 100-400GM). It covers FF for a good part of the zoom range, and is 120fps capable.

However they
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Have you used any of these lenses, or are your judgements just based on the reviews you have read?



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Hodie wrote:
Yes, precisely. My mother is an artist (oil painting). There are periods (years) where she does not paint. In fact, she had her last exhibition in Atami, Japan a few years ago and she decided no more after that. Granted, she's 80+ and no longer has anything to express at a professional level. I think she's now at the point of observing and interacting with the world vs. capturing it and expressing it in her own vision.


I also learned this lesson from music. At one time I was a professional classical musician, and I married a woman who still is. She pointed out to me that almost every time you feel that you've reached a new high point... you realize that the work that you used to think was great is no longer good enough. Each step forward raises the bar, and not everything that follows the bar raising is better than what you did before.

So it goes...



Oct 02, 2025 at 07:36 PM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Have you used any of these lenses, or are your judgements just based on the reviews you have read?


16-35G, 16-35GMii, 70-300G, 70-350G, 70-300 are lenses I have used.

I have not tried the 50-300 yet but it looks like an improved 70-300

I am trying to be more minimalist in what gear I own though, at one point i had 3 medium telephoto zooms and it was getting ridiculous. (apsc, canon FF, sony FF)



Oct 02, 2025 at 08:01 PM
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p.4 #10 · It's happening again


aCuria wrote:
16-35G, 16-35GMii, 70-300G, 70-350G, 70-300 are lenses I have used.

I have not tried the 50-300 yet but it looks like an improved 70-300

I am trying to be more minimalist in what gear I own though, at one point i had 3 medium telephoto zooms and it was getting ridiculous. (apsc, canon FF, sony FF)


Well thanks for raising these possibilities. A lens being 120 fps capable does not matter to me at all when considering a lens, but it obviously matters to you so I am not sure we are looking for the same thing in lenses at all. I am skeptical of the capabilities of all the 70-3XX Sony E mount zooms and even more skeptical of the 50-300 Tamron. The Tamron 17-50 f/4 with its very high uncorrected distortion and vignetting probably isn't what I am looking for either. I am glad I went with the Fuji APS-C kit. To me it holds more promise of being the lightweight kit that will let my shooting evolve to the way I shoot landscapes now and for me adapting my kit to how I shoot has been useful in keeping my interest in photography which is what this thread has been about. I hope you find the more minimalist kit that helps you keep your interest up as well.



Oct 03, 2025 at 05:05 AM
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I don't want to coerce anybody into anything, but Tamron 50-300 is a very well regarded lens (e.g. on Sony Alpha Blog). Basically, it's a shrinked down 50-400, which is comparable to 100-400GM.
Tamron 17-50 is just ok on the other hand I'd say. It's alright for its size and price, but nothing to rave about IMHO...



Oct 03, 2025 at 09:31 AM
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p.4 #12 · It's happening again


j4nu wrote:
I don't want to coerce anybody into anything, but Tamron 50-300 is a very well regarded lens (e.g. on Sony Alpha Blog). Basically, it's a shrinked down 50-400, which is comparable to 100-400GM.
Tamron 17-50 is just ok on the other hand I'd say. It's alright for its size and price, but nothing to rave about IMHO...


Have you used either lens? I am generally less interested in how lenses are regarded, which can be influenced by things other than performance, than in people's actual experience with the lens. So if you have used the lens I would love to hear your experience with it.



Oct 03, 2025 at 10:25 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Have you used either lens? I am generally less interested in how lenses are regarded, which can be influenced by things other than performance, than in people's actual experience with the lens. So if you have used the lens I would love to hear your experience with it.


Yes, I had both.
I have since sold 17-50 as it ended up on the shelf for most of the time (for some reason I actually liked 20-70 more for the brief time I tried it).
I still have 50-300, just in case I happen to need that tele reach but I don't use it on a daily basis. The reason I went for 50-300 after having previously owned two 100-400s is the size/weight. 50-300 just doesn't feel like a tele at all when attached to the body (but it's of course also 100mm shorter) .



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