Sy Sez wrote:
The term "mirrorless" as currently expressed on this and other forums is totally in relation SLR's & DSLR's of the recent past.
The fact that there still are, and have been many camera types since the onset of photography that did not, and do not employ mirrors is hardly revolutionary, and a rather nonsensical subject for discussion.
aboudd wrote:
I'm keeping the faith. I just bought a new Nikon D850. I just find the feel in hand better, feels more like a camera and less like a computer and I still like optical viewfinders. I'm old school digital. Very old school.
Congrats! A lot of people consider the D850 to be the best DSLR ever made. Nikon USA at least seems to be still offering them new for sale, which is nice to see.
Actually, many cameras including the Kodak Brownie used mirrors in different ways, which has nothing to do with the current term mirrorless which is primarily viewing the image on a digital sensor, rather than through a lens.
"Yes, many models of the Kodak Brownie camera used small internal mirrors as part of their waist-level viewfinders to help frame images. Additionally, the Brownie was famously used in early "mirror selfies" starting around 1900, where users photographed their reflection in a household mirror."
Sy Sez wrote:
The term "mirrorless" as currently expressed on this and other forums is totally in relation SLR's & DSLR's of the recent past.
The fact that there still are, and have been many camera types since the onset of photography that did not, and do not employ mirrors is hardly revolutionary, and a rather nonsensical subject for discussion.
I always thought it should be EVF (electronic viewfinder) rather than mirrorless.
A lot of the reasons for going mirrorless really dont appeal to me. Histogram bouncing around in my composition really annoying turned off as much stuff on the EVF as I could
dolina wrote:
Would've been so awesome to have a 1992 GW690 III the month of release and use it until 2009 when I replace it with a 2008 GF670. Using a roll of film weekly to get >7,000 frames of family, friends and event import to us.
Do so again with the GF670 until 2025 when getting the GFX100RF.
I was on the pre-ordained list for the GSW (65mm) and had a very low S/N less than the first 50. It was $830 +tax, but then I had to buy a lightmeter with spot function and so many costs for it that I never expected. But those images were much better than what I got from 135, based on the nearly 6x area.
It’s funny to me. When I first got a Nikon Z7 I thought it would stay with me forever. I love the lightweight and capabilities of the camera. I had never had a Nikon DSLR in the past years as I was a Canon shooter. So I was curious and started with a d700, then a d810 and finally a d850. The difference between the d850 and z7 is astounding. I understand the equivalent z camera to a d850 is the z8 but at a significant increase in cost over the z7. I soon migrated to f mount. But the weight was becoming a concern to me. So I once again tried a z7. After using a d850, using a z7 just felt awkward and unappealing. I enjoyed using a d850 so much more. The physical controls, the ergonomics, and other subtle things everyone already knows about. So I am once again z-less and will cope with the weight of the d850 and lenses, remembering that it’s worth it.
Having used the EOS R1 + EF 200mm f/2L IS USM & EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM for pickleball for the past week I've come to the conclusion that I should've sold my 2008 5D Mark II, 2009 7D & 2009 1D Mark IV before RF mount was announced mid 2018.
Then unloaded by 2014 7D Mark II for 2022 R7 & 2015 5Ds R by mid 2024 for a R5 Mark II & R1 then paired them with three Sandisk 512GB CFexpress cards for $100 each.
R1 using Servo does voodoo on EF lenses. My keeper rate is so out there! Instead of positioning AF points on the subject's eye/head I instead have to concentrate on keeping the subject's hands/head/feet/paddle + ball are in frame and not cut.
crisdesign wrote:
I miss my dslrs as much as i miss my cds and dvds.
Honestly i can’t see a single reason to shoot dslr in 2026 but that’s just me.
Same here because my main issue is weight and size. If I find it bulky or too heavy, I just won't bring it anymore. No backpacks – only slings and waist packs. I really don't miss the size of the 5D Mark III that I had before switching to a Canon R (now R5, R7 and R50). I still miss the EF-M line and have to make due with a somewhat crimped R50.
crisdesign wrote:
I miss my dslrs as much as i miss my cds and dvds.
Honestly i can’t see a single reason to shoot dslr in 2026 but that’s just me.
chuck4242 wrote:
Same here because my main issue is weight and size. If I find it bulky or too heavy, I just won't bring it anymore. No backpacks – only slings and waist packs. I really don't miss the size of the 5D Mark III that I had before switching to a Canon R (now R5, R7 and R50). I still miss the EF-M line and have to make due with a somewhat crimped R50.
Well, as a technology Luddite (I drive cars which lack computers, and collect Pinball machines from the '80s), I'm totally still using my CDs (about 8,000 neatly stored in cabinets) and DVDs.
And and as a late-comer even to AF technology, I only recently got a DSLR, and it is the Nikon Df which is one of the smallest/lightest ones they ever made. What I love about the Df is the ability to shoot with my old MF Nikkors, almost all of which are very petite. Sure, the Zf is a nice small body too, but the Z-Nikkors seem to have gone down the pathway of Fast'n'Large. So, in a combination of my Luddite tendencies (wanting to shoot everything from a late 60's 105/2.5 P to some amazing AF-D lenses) and rejection of the large-jar-of-peanut-butter lenses mirrorless seems to favour, I'm sticking with my DSLR.
grantgoodes wrote:
And and as a late-comer even to AF technology, I only recently got a DSLR, and it is the Nikon Df which is one of the smallest/lightest ones they ever made. What I love about the Df is the ability to shoot with my old MF Nikkors, almost all of which are very petite. Sure, the Zf is a nice small body too, but the Z-Nikkors seem to have gone down the pathway of Fast'n'Large. So, in a combination of my Luddite tendencies (wanting to shoot everything from a late 60's 105/2.5 P to some amazing AF-D lenses) and rejection of the large-jar-of-peanut-butter lenses mirrorless seems to favour, I'm sticking with my DSLR....Show more →
I work in tech designing user workflows and interfaces and see a lot of garbage in my industry, so I get not always wanting to get into new technology. I've been feeling that the last few years where so much new functionality aligns with business needs that happen to run afoul of user's needs. We're usually tossed aside for a quick cash grab.
chuck4242 wrote:
I work in tech designing user workflows and interfaces and see a lot of garbage in my industry, so I get not always wanting to get into new technology. I've been feeling that the last few years where so much new functionality aligns with business needs that happen to run afoul of user's needs. We're usually tossed aside for a quick cash grab.
I've definitely noticed this as a long time technology user. It feels like the tech industry went has become much more self-serving and more like malware that pushes the user through the path the company wants, not the one the user wants.
Mike_5D wrote:
I've definitely noticed this as a long time technology user. It feels like the tech industry went has become much more self-serving and more like malware that pushes the user through the path the company wants, not the one the user wants.
