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On an R1: EF 50mm f/1.0L or EF 200mm f/1.8L

  
 
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p.2 #1 · On an R1: EF 50mm f/1.0L or EF 200mm f/1.8L


rscheffler wrote:
Check out the thread about the new Shoten Leica M to RF mount adaptor. With it you can make any non-chipped lens compatible with Canon's manual focus assist feature by stacking adaptors.

The old ZE 50/1.4 is a traditional double Gauss design that exhibits a lot of wide open spherical aberration, especially at near distances. As you know it requires stopping down a fair amount for maximum sharpness. The new Milvus 50/1.4 was completely redesigned with a modern optical formula that significantly increased its size. The Voigtlander 50/1.0 is also a thoroughly modern design that is sharp from wide open and
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Thanks for the heads up! I message a friend who is currently near Nagoya Castle in neighboring Nagoya City.

Map Camera sadly doesn't have a branch there. Would you happen to know of any authorized Voigtländer dealer at Map Camera pricing?



Feb 28, 2026 at 11:45 PM
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p.2 #2 · On an R1: EF 50mm f/1.0L or EF 200mm f/1.8L


AmbientMike wrote:
The 200/1.8 got the highest score of any lens or brand on the old photodo.com site. Period. 5.1 on a scale to 5, so it should be fine, maybe even great, optically


Here's the top ten scores from old photodo.com, from my file dated 2015-12-28 (probably at least a few years after old photodo stopped updating).

4.8 Canon EF 200/1,8L USM
4.6 Canon EF 85/1,2L USM
4.6 Contax Planar T* 50/1,7
4.6 Contax Planar T* 85/1,4
4.6 LeicaR Elmarit-R 90/2,8 discontinued
4.6 Pentax SMC-F 50/1,4
4.6 Pentax SMC-F 50/2,8 macro
4.6 Pentax SMC-A 85/1,4
4.6 Tokina AT-X 90/2,5 macro
4.5 Canon EF 135/2L USM

The Canon EF 200mm f/1.8L is indeed a 'great' lens, and has the highest photodo score of all lenses tested. OTOH, nothing exceeds five, on a zero to five scale. Especially considering, it is a logarithmic scale that 'approaches' five, asymptotically.

I have owned seven of these ten lenses; all except for the three SMC Pentax lenses. I do own the -FA version of the SMC-F 50/2.8 macro, which I believe is better than its older sibling, but it wasn't tested, and so I won't count it.

Incidentally, the 'also-great' Canon 50mm f/1.0 has a photodo test score of 3.9. IOW, a great score on a resolution-based test like photodo, isn't required to be a great lens.



Mar 01, 2026 at 07:03 AM
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p.2 #3 · On an R1: EF 50mm f/1.0L or EF 200mm f/1.8L


dolina wrote:
Thanks for the heads up! I message a friend who is currently near Nagoya Castle in neighboring Nagoya City.

Map Camera sadly doesn't have a branch there. Would you happen to know of any authorized Voigtländer dealer at Map Camera pricing?


Not offhand outside of Tokyo. From my understanding the big shops like Yodobashi and Bic are higher priced because they offer customers store points instead of discounts, so you're better to look for smaller stores that are more price competitive.

I did a quick google maps search and noticed there is a Kitamura Camera store in Nagoya. I believe Kitamura is a fairly large chain of stores. But their online listing for the VM version of the 50/1.0 is the same price as Map Camera (less than Yodobashi). They just don't have the RF version listed online and not sure how available it would be in-store in Nagoya.

Yodobashi has the RF version listed pre-tax at about JPY 180,000, which is about USD 1,150. B&H currently has the RF version on sale for $1400. So it would be ~$100 more than Map via Yodobashi, but if that is the only option available... There is also a Bic Camera in Nagoya by the JR station.



Mar 01, 2026 at 02:58 PM
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p.2 #4 · On an R1: EF 50mm f/1.0L or EF 200mm f/1.8L


Thanks @rscheffler

Going back to the the EF 200mm f/1.8 it looks like Schneider Kreuznach x LK Samyang are coming out with a AF 200mm f/1.8 without IS.







Source: https://photorumors.com/2026/03/01/four-new-schneider-kreuznach-x-lk-samyang-af-lens-prototypes-20-50mm-f-2-28-85mm-f-2-200mm-f-1-8-and-300mm-f-4/

With this 3rd party announcement will this have Canon within 3 years push out a

- 200mm f/1.8 IS
- 200mm f/1.6 IS
- 200mm f/1.4 IS



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p.2 #5 · On an R1: EF 50mm f/1.0L or EF 200mm f/1.8L


Suddenly everyone is releasing fast 200s except the big 3.

I don't know about Canon. It's such a niche and IMO that range is better served by a zoom such as the 100-300. I'd never buy a 300/4 now with a lens like the 70-200 Z and 1.4x TC combo.

Personally I'd have a lot more use for an ultra-fast 100, especially if compactness was sacrificed to make it TC compatible. I'm thinking 100/1.0

It'll never happen though...

I'm still waiting for Canon's xx-135/150 f/2 that should have been released in 2018 with the 28-70/2. And now Sony stole that thunder.



Mar 01, 2026 at 09:48 PM
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p.2 #6 · On an R1: EF 50mm f/1.0L or EF 200mm f/1.8L


Canon could make a 300/2. 200mm is too short.

EBH



Mar 01, 2026 at 09:58 PM
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p.2 #7 · On an R1: EF 50mm f/1.0L or EF 200mm f/1.8L


rscheffler wrote:
Suddenly everyone is releasing fast 200s except the big 3.

Personally I'd have a lot more use for an ultra-fast 100, especially if compactness was sacrificed to make it TC compatible. I'm thinking 100/1.0


$1,699-5,999 200/2.0 lenses in the market are available from

- Venus Optics for Z, E & EF mounts
- Sigma for E & L mounts
- Fuji for X mounts

As for a 100/1.0... I'm game for one. Heck, I'm game for the Sigma 135/1.4 Art!

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EB-1 wrote:
Canon could make a 300/2. 200mm is too short.

EBH


I'd be keen to get one if the BH price is below $14k or the Map Camera price is below $9.8k.

It'll be very inconvenient to use as a portrait lens but a killer indoor lens for indoor theater or indoor sports.



Mar 02, 2026 at 10:43 AM
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