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p.2 #18 · Thypoch 24-50mm f/2.8 FE autofocus lens is coming. | |
I am not really sure what his relationship is. But, given how Thypoch interacts with shooters behind the scenes (I know of a couple odd things from sources), given the youtube hype and the talking points are literally essentially the same and scripted, and their glass (I think they are good but nothing too special), I don't trust Phillip's wild claims or Thypoch's marketing/influencer army.
I think CV is a cut above them in terms of offers, innovation, ergo, IQ, build and character. CV just feels much more mature with their chipped, re-house per mount and mount optical optimization of glass. I also think Thypoch's cinema branding is goofy--at least for their still lenses. They aren't color corrected across the range, they have massive focus breathing and the ergo are the opposite of cine-lenses. At least in their C-line they have good ergo.
I am not convinced they can make high contrast lenses with good flare resistance and resolution distribution across the frame. So, might as well lean into "not clinical" vibe. Despite the claims, in the cine word, DZO lenses are a budget brand. If you look at the higher-end cine lenses, they offer high micro-contrast, good flare resistance even resolution. They older glass people like and convert has actual character, not modern glass that has the "organic look" Simeras have done. Arri and Zeiss offers filters and such for desired affects. I said the same with CV--until recently, they struggled making lenses with high-micro contrast and performance. In the last several years, with the arrival of their APO's and 50/1 and such, they really are dialed in.
I am not as impressed as others with the FLE choice--in the 35mm for instance, the FLE doesn't really do much because the lens is soft WO. There is not MFD on the CV 35/1.5 but the CV produces better results at MFD. You need to stop down to f4 for it to be punchy at MFD on the Simera. So what's the point of a FLE on that? On the 75 is seems to actually being doing something.
From my perspective, they offer a lot of hype and glass from 3rd party makers has gotten better in recent years. I really enjoy my TTartisans 40/2. But Thypoch still suffers from what I would say have marked many makers--low or moderate micro-contrast, copying the Leica ethos in IQ, optical designs and branding with a sheer lack of innovation or having their own unique offering) and bad flare resistance. Other lenses like this: the 7artisans 28/1.4, Mr. Ding's Noctilux knock off, LLL's remakes...
I still hold the 28/1.4 is their best lens cause it serves an underserved FL and shows they actually can make a novel design. I am interested in the new Thypoch 24-50 because it hopefully won't suffer from goofy hiccups like the dots, irregular aperture stops, larger size, amber flaring, infinite locks--essentially gimmicks. While the lens looks like a Minolta AF lens, if that's as far as gimmicks go, good by me. I am just interested in actual performance.
I have now used several of their lenses and I like them on balance, but like you, they don't quite strike my correct marriage of IQ, usability and specs. Maybe the 24-50 will change that. I am open to it!
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