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p.56 #1 · Sony A7RVI


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You should stop overanalyzing and just rent the a7rVI, a few Sony E lenses, and a Sigmoid MC11 adapter for a weekend. Just DO IT and then decide.

EBH


That’s ironic. ;-)

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I will offer some unsolicited advice. I apologize if you don't want to hear my take. I am guessing that both Canon and Nikon will come out with a high MP camera in the next year or so. I think Canon will make an R5s with 61 MP (based on their 24 MP APS-C sensor - they could just use the same pixels but make the bigger sized sensor and it would be 61 MP) or more likely with 83 MP (based on their 32.5 MP APS-C sensor). Canon was late to the mirrorless party and had a lot
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Those are reasonable points, many of which I’ve already thought about.

For example, there have been rumors of a 80MP+ Canon camera for several years now, though they pretty much dried up in the last year. My sense is that Canon may have decided that 45MP is plenty right now, and that focusing on other technologies will have a bigger payoff — but who knows?

Also, while I’m patient and don’t necessary make rushed decisions, it is possible to get caught in the “If I wait I might get a slightly better thing trap” and never move forward. (If I know something is coming — as was the case with the A7rVI — I don’t mind waiting a bit, since I’m not in a white heat to upgrade.

If Canon was still building cameas using the EF mount lenses, waiting would be an appealing option for me, as the savings from keeping my lenses and just replacing a body are considerable. But since I’m unwilling to use adapters for my primary lenses (on a few secondary lenses, maybe) that Canon advantage no longer exists — so whatever I would get (Canon, Sony, GFX have all been under consideration) would require a roughly similar lens cost.

As to the accessories issue, the main one will be the L-bracket. Odds are that I’ll continue with RRS, since I have other RRS gear and I’m happy wiht it, though there are some other options. I’m used to the idea that it could b a couple of months before this is available. Again, I’m not the sort who has to have the New Thing Right Now, so that’s OK. (I’m also traveling right now and would not order one yet anyway. And I need to refine my lens strategy before buying.)

Nikon is not on my decision list “for reasons.” Having said that, I have long maintained that in most ways it really doesn’t matter which of hte big. brands one buys. I have friends relying on Nikon, sony, Canon, Fujifilm… and they all produce beautiful work with whatever gear they use… and we never argue about Which Brand Is The VEry Best In The Whole Wide World. ;-)

I’ve long understood, as you mention, that brands generally leapfrog one another with new releases. Brand A may have the latest and greatest today, but in a year Brand B will release its Cool New Thing and take the incremental lead until Brand C does its thing. ;-)



Jun 06, 2026 at 03:13 PM
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p.56 #2 · Sony A7RVI


i have the original A1 (and other cameras from other brands). I was very excited about A7R6 until it was released and I've heard about 20ms sensor readout (14.5 if you use lossy 12bit raw). I personally love shooting hummingbirds which are abundant where I live (Los Angeles). I owned A7R4 and 5 and it was a no go for hummingbirds for two main reasons. Electronic shutter had horrible readout rate and I have examples of hummingbirds shot with A7RIV with wings literally broken into 3 parts on the shot. The problem with A7R4/5 was that in addition to horrible readout speed, mechanical shutter was unusable for hummers too. Sony somehow managed to put the loudest mechanical shutter in industry it is annoyingly loud in A7R4 and R5. I am told this has not changed on R6- same loud mechanical shutter. And when shooting hummingbirds, I need to get really close because they are small (and I still have to crop). Where I live you can get very close to them, literally 6 feet or sometimes even closer at some parks where they are used to people. But they hate the loud noise of the shutter and it scares them away.

So slow electronic shutter readout plus loud mechanical shutter is a bad combo. And it is possible to create quieter shutters, plently of cameras have one. Fuji XT5 for example has almost silent fully mechanical shutter. A1 is quiet too but it is not fully mechanical so it is not fair to compare.

With that in mind I still would like to try R6 to see how it does, but I am not willing to let go of my A1 with its 3.9ms shutter readout. A1 has been a reliable beast for me, and does everything well.

Finally, it is also mentall to me, Sony released a camera in 2026 that competes with Canon R5II and Nikon Z8, yet it provides slower readout than either. And these two are cheaper since they have been around for some time. My Canon R5 mark 1 reads sensor faster and it is over 5 years old!




Jun 06, 2026 at 03:49 PM
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p.56 #3 · Sony A7RVI


gdanmitchell wrote:
I’ve long understood, as you mention, that brands generally leapfrog one another with new releases. Brand A may have the latest and greatest today, but in a year Brand B will release its Cool New Thing and take the incremental lead until Brand C does its thing. ;-)


Not anymore. In software, this has never been the case - it's always been a winner-takes-all business. Same with semiconductor fabrication: the industry has been consolidating for years now.

Back to your point: A modern camera is a computer with a ton of software inside. The last moving parts are disappearing, nowhere else to innovate. The future belongs to the Canon+Sony duopoly. They're far ahead of everyone else in fabs and software. Everything else is just chinesium in the making, and will be cut off from the West due to the inevitable decoupling.

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Jun 06, 2026 at 03:57 PM
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p.56 #4 · Sony A7RVI


just got my A7R6

I will measure the sensor readout out time and share in my review



Jun 06, 2026 at 04:05 PM
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p.56 #5 · Sony A7RVI


I'm still confused as to what settings to use to minimize the ES readout time and maximize AF rate. Is it just to use regular compressed RAW?

EBH



Jun 06, 2026 at 05:34 PM
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p.56 #6 · Sony A7RVI


old-gregg wrote:
Not anymore. In software, this has never been the case - it's always been a winner-takes-all business. Same with semiconductor fabrication: the industry has been consolidating for years now.

Back to your point: A modern camera is a computer with a ton of software inside. The last moving parts are disappearing, nowhere else to innovate. The future belongs to the Canon+Sony duopoly. They're far ahead of everyone else in fabs and software. Everything else is just chinesium in the making, and will be cut off from the West due to the inevitable decoupling.


I wouldn't bet on this 'leapfrogging' myth. No-one has been able to leapfrog Sony with camera technology since they released the A9 and there is no evidence that anyone will any time soon.

Canon seems to have hit the limits of their capabilities - 40fps on the R1 and the jagis on the R5ii - poor autofocus during pre-capture. It seems to me that Canon are struggling to keep up - no sign they are leapfrogging in any capability that really matters. Being good at identifying small birds in the distance doesn't count - who takes those kinds of pictures anyway?

There is still plenty of place to innovate though - stacked sensors, SOCs with unified memory and better neural engines, 2nm fabs, better integration of hardware and software.

TSMC have some good fabrication capabilities so the Sony / TSMC partnership may well deliver a bunch of further improvements to sensors and SOCs.

Nikon with their 6 year hardware lifecycle will likely deliver new gear in 2027 that is one generation behind the already available Sony gear much like they did with the Z6/Z7 and then Z8/Z9. Having good stabilisation alone is like being good a focussing on small birds in the distance - it's just not enough to make up for all the other deficiencies.

With such small market share I can't see Nikon surviving unless someone throws them a lifeline. But then Apple was about to go bust and Microsoft lent them $100m - and look where they are today - so miracles can happen. Nikon however doesn't have Steve Jobs or a revolutionary new product called the iPhone.

if the chatter is anything to go by there are plenty of people wishing the Canon and Nikon would produce something similar to the A7R6 - so there will no doubt be quite a few defectors from Canon and Nikon who purchase the A7r6.

And then when Sony do release an A1iii capable of 60fps and an A9iii with 33mp and better DR - both of which are likely not far away since Sony have, with the A7r6, already demonstrated they have these new sensor and SOC technical capabilities - where will that leave Canon and Nikon. Can they really survive without these class leading capabilities.



Jun 06, 2026 at 06:05 PM
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p.56 #7 · Sony A7RVI


absolutic wrote:
i have the original A1 (and other cameras from other brands). I was very excited about A7R6 until it was released and I've heard about 20ms sensor readout (14.5 if you use lossy 12bit raw). I personally love shooting hummingbirds which are abundant where I live (Los Angeles). I owned A7R4 and 5 and it was a no go for hummingbirds for two main reasons. Electronic shutter had horrible readout rate and I have examples of hummingbirds shot with A7RIV with wings literally broken into 3 parts on the shot. The problem with A7R4/5 was that in addition to
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How does a 67Mpix camera compete with a 45Mpix camera? Those are not competitors when I shop and if hummingbirds are your thing then the A1ii would probably be your best choice. For me, a hummingbird ignostic, the R6 works..and I haven’t noticed the mechanical shutter being loud and I shoot plenty of leaf shutter cameras.



Jun 06, 2026 at 07:02 PM
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p.56 #8 · Sony A7RVI


Steve Spencer wrote:
I will offer some unsolicited advice. I apologize if you don't want to hear my take. I am guessing that both Canon and Nikon will come out with a high MP camera in the next year or so. I think Canon will make an R5s with 61 MP (based on their 24 MP APS-C sensor - they could just use the same pixels but make the bigger sized sensor and it would be 61 MP) or more likely with 83 MP (based on their 32.5 MP APS-C sensor). Canon was late to the mirrorless party and had a lot
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And yet Sony has had a 61mpx body for years--since 2019--with nothing to show from Nikon or Canon. Color me a bit skeptical. Heck, it's been over a decade since Canon hit 50mpx with the 5Ds/5DsR and they went nowhere with that sensor.

I'm never one to tell people to "just wait" for something. If they want/need it now, get it now. Speculating on what Nikon and Canon will do is a poor strategy.



Jun 06, 2026 at 07:12 PM
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p.56 #9 · Sony A7RVI


EB-1 wrote:
I'm still confused as to what settings to use to minimize the ES readout time and maximize AF rate. Is it just to use regular compressed RAW?

EBH


Yes, as far as I can tell, regular compressed will do both of those. Mark Galer on the prior version setup the "action" mode to go to regular compressed to increase the fps rate.



Jun 06, 2026 at 09:20 PM
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p.56 #10 · Sony A7RVI


old-gregg wrote:
Not anymore. In software, this has never been the case - it's always been a winner-takes-all business. Same with semiconductor fabrication: the industry has been consolidating for years now.

Back to your point: A modern camera is a computer with a ton of software inside. The last moving parts are disappearing, nowhere else to innovate. The future belongs to the Canon+Sony duopoly. They're far ahead of everyone else in fabs and software. Everything else is just chinesium in the making, and will be cut off from the West due to the inevitable decoupling.


Really. What about sensor technology. The A7RVI sensor “fully stacked” is a different take on what a sensor can do. It is stacked with DR enhancing circuitry and somehow is still able to be under 20ms readout and all while bumping up the mega pixels, That puts Sonya ahead right now and software won’t help the competition.

Pre-capture was in the domain of Sony’s competitors for something like 10 years. I almost switched brands waiting for it with the A1 II in late 2025.

You can’t make a 5mp evf into a 9+mp HDR evf with software.

You are correct that many things can be upgraded in software and once you have the “right” hardware AF is largely software.

Just some thoughts.



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p.56 #11 · Sony A7RVI


EB-1 wrote:
I'm still confused as to what settings to use to minimize the ES readout time and maximize AF rate. Is it just to use regular compressed RAW?

EBH


Compressed raw. Check out Mark Galers e-book on the a7rvi.



Jun 06, 2026 at 09:23 PM
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p.56 #12 · Sony A7RVI


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- determining the set of lenses that well meet my needs. (I’ll likely adapt by 16-35 and 100mm macros, but other coverage will be with Sony.)

- making sure that all of the auxiliary tools Ineed are available — thinks like L-brackets, etc.



Dan,
I've been following your conversation for a while. In the past I've found some testing can really clarify the differences between cameras or lenses. I have to second the idea of renting some gear, taking some comparison photos of static subjects on a tripod and then carefully examining the results. I would say rent a Canon R5 with the EF to RF adaptor, a Sony a7Rvi with the Sigma MC-11 adapter, and the Canon RF and Sony GM equivalent of your most used landscape zoom. Get shots with the lenses you plan to adapt on your current Canon on the Canon R5 and the Sony Rvi. Get a mix of static subjects on a tripod that are exactly comparable and some using AF on moving subjects. Repeat with the native RF and E mount lenses vs your favorite landscape zoom to gauge lens improvement over the years. For your EF and the E mount lenses take a few pixel shift shots on the Sony Rvi on a high detail static subject. This will tell you how well the lenses will hold up in the future if Sony moves to 100MP at some point like they have discussed. I think they made the right choice that they needed to improve speed before adding more resolution.

My guess is you might find the R5 with the EF to RF adapter actually does fine and you can keep your glass and update the body. Or you might find you like the quality of the Rvi file and decide to move to Sony. You might also find the Sony glass has improvements over the EF glass and see a reason to update beyond native mount compatibility.

I wish you the best in your path forward.



Jun 06, 2026 at 10:34 PM
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p.56 #13 · Sony A7RVI


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And yet Sony has had a 61mpx body for years--since 2019--with nothing to show from Nikon or Canon. Color me a bit skeptical. Heck, it's been over a decade since Canon hit 50mpx with the 5Ds/5DsR and they went nowhere with that sensor.

I'm never one to tell people to "just wait" for something. If they want/need it now, get it now. Speculating on what Nikon and Canon will do is a poor strategy.


Nobody was telling Dan or anyone else to "just wait." I certainly wasn't. Dan has decided to wait for a couple of years. Dan is currently waiting even though he likes the A7r VI. He is going to wait at least until he can get an L bracket for the A7r VI and he gets back from vacation. All I suggested, and it was merely a suggestion, is that he considers waiting another few months to see if Canon responds with a camera to compete with the A7r VI.

On sensor technology Sony has consistently provided advances in sensor technology first whether that be higher resoltution, faster read out speed, back side illumination, or a global shutter. If being on the cutting edge of sensor technology matters to anyone, then they really should select Sony.

It is true, of course that Canon has not responded to the higher resolution of the A7r IV. It being a 61 MP camera that was introduced in 2019, but during the last seven years Canon has had to bring out and develop their whole mirrorless RF system. They had a lot on their plate and it was always unlikely they were going to address every area in which Sony had developed their system over the much longer period it had a mirrorless system. That Canon hasn't developed a higher MP sensor doesn't mean they aren't going to do so.

Dan is clearly happy with his current system. He can see some benefits to getting a new system, however. Nevertheless he has decided to wait for years. The question in his case isn't to "just wait," or not. It is when to stop waiting. That might be in 3 months or so as is his current timeline and that would certainly be reasonable. All I was suggesting is that he consider expanding that window a few months to see if Canon responds with a competitor to the A7r VI. In his case I believe the transition from Canon EF to Canon RF is easier than the transition from Canon EF to Sony and that may be worth waiting a few months to see if Canon responds to the Sony A7r VI, but he and you are free to disagree with that point of view.



Jun 07, 2026 at 02:09 AM
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Jun 07, 2026 at 04:01 AM
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So having read the last 20 pages and watching loads of reviews.. if you take out a the new camera drooling and those justifying their new purchase.
As a photographic Camera, It’s the same a7v debate…is this an A1ii killer .
As with the a7v no it is not. This is for all purposes a double resolution a7v(not considered the new hardware parts)
The a7v has a slightly improved readout and af calc but smaller buffer.
Vs a a7rv for stills and landscape it’s questionable and for most not worth an upgrade from the a7rv… the tiny dr improvement isn’t the be end all.. DR has been far more than most needed since the Nikon d800. Unless your totally crushing the highlights or shadows you will be fine regardless.

Cost wise for anyone shooting fast sports buying a a7v and more glass or a a1ii wouldn’t be a better idea I think.



Jun 07, 2026 at 04:14 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Nobody was telling Dan or anyone else to "just wait." I certainly wasn't. Dan has decided to wait for a couple of years. Dan is currently waiting even though he likes the A7r VI. He is going to wait at least until he can get an L bracket for the A7r VI and he gets back from vacation. All I suggested, and it was merely a suggestion, is that he considers waiting another few months to see if Canon responds with a camera to compete with the A7r VI.



Are people waiting for a specific kind of L bracket for the 7R6? I have a Sunwayfoto L bracket that I bought for the 7R3 that continues to work for all of the Sony cameras I have 7R5, A1 II and the 7R6....I do not use/need the side ports while shooting though...



Jun 07, 2026 at 07:39 AM
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p.56 #17 · Sony A7RVI


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Are people waiting for a specific kind of L bracket for the 7R6? I have a Sunwayfoto L bracket that I bought for the 7R3 that continues to work for all of the Sony cameras I have 7R5, A1 II and the 7R6....I do not use/need the side ports while shooting though...


From what Dan said, I think he prefers an RRS L bracket but if not that then one specifically built for the A7r VI. He is away on vaction for awhile anyway, so the wait seems reasonable.



Jun 07, 2026 at 07:59 AM
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p.56 #18 · Sony A7RVI


James Burden wrote:
Are people waiting for a specific kind of L bracket for the 7R6? I have a Sunwayfoto L bracket that I bought for the 7R3 that continues to work for all of the Sony cameras I have 7R5, A1 II and the 7R6....I do not use/need the side ports while shooting though...


Plenty of brackets would work on a tripod. I want the kind like Smallrig that provides a cm of height around the handgrip. The a7rVI is just as painful to use handheld as the a7rV was.

EBH



Jun 07, 2026 at 08:38 AM
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p.56 #19 · Sony A7RVI


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Finally, it is also mentall to me, Sony released a camera in 2026 that competes with Canon R5II and Nikon Z8, yet it provides slower readout than either. And these two are cheaper since they have been around for some time. My Canon R5 mark 1 reads sensor faster and it is over 5 years old!


These cameras are not in the same segment. It is as if you said the A7R was released 10 years ago, and it still has more resolution than the A7V, which is true but irrelevant.

The A7R VI has 21MP more than its closest competitors, and it does so with higher DR and a reasonably fast readout speed. Not to mention all the little goodies added like the high-res EVF, etc. If readout speed is important to you, Sony gets you covered with the A1 series and the A9 III.

I said earlier that I was a bit disappointed that Sony did not go with a higher resolution A7R VI, but at the same time, I reckon they may have made the right choice by reducing the readout weakness of the R series to a level that makes it usable for most applications, except maybe hummingbirds



Jun 07, 2026 at 08:42 AM
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p.56 #20 · Sony A7RVI


gdanmitchell wrote:
That’s ironic. ;-)


I'm just trying to help, not intending to be ironic.

EBH



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