gyoung143 wrote:
PASM makes some sense on a camera with 'only' a top screen and 'wheels' to change SS and A etc, as used on Nikon film cameras such as my F90 etc, and all their digital cameras, Canon too I suppose from EOS onwards.
With cameras with shutter speed dials and aperture rings it would surely be confusing to have a PASM dial while the separate controls read a speed or aperture. Fujis have it quite simple, whichever parameter you want auto set you put the dial on A, simple. As also done I think on older 'traditional' Nikons such as the FA, although I never owned that, just an FM2 which I still have, and F, F2 'pro' bodies.
When they talk about the retro digital Nikon cameras, they compare them to the FE, when in actuality they are really much closer to an FA.
I have an FM2 also, bought brand new the first year they were out. It still work and is in my bag right now with a roll of XP2 in it.
I like the Fuji XT cameras. I am keeping an eye out for a used X-T2.
KankRat wrote:
FA had a PASM switch sort of "under" the shutter speed dial.
When they talk about the retro digital Nikon cameras, they compare them to the FE, when in actuality they are really much closer to an FA.
I have an FM2 also, bought brand new the first year they were out. It still work and is in my bag right now with a roll of XP2 in it.
I like the Fuji XT cameras. I am keeping an eye out for a used X-T2.
I think the closest to the Zf / Zfc in terms of control layout is the F4. The PASM switch is on the other side but other than that it’s pretty similar.
The Fujis are more similar to how some Pentax cameras worked e.g. the Pentax 645N (ii).
Imo the Fuji X-T style layout is a bit easier to „read“ as long as you have a marked aperture ring on the lens. But the Nikon retro control scheme also works very well.
fjablo wrote:
I think the closest to the Zf / Zfc in terms of control layout is the F4. The PASM switch is on the other side but other than that it’s pretty similar.
The Fujis are more similar to how some Pentax cameras worked e.g. the Pentax 645N (ii).
Imo the Fuji X-T style layout is a bit easier to „read“ as long as you have a marked aperture ring on the lens. But the Nikon retro control scheme also works very well.
I meant in terms of overall styling and the fact that an FE & FE2 only had aperture priority and manual, so such a knob or dial was totally unnecessary. In my opinion the true beauty of the bunch was the FM FM2 which lacked all those options and only had the bare bones needed. I've never felt more at home with any camera more than my FM2.
KankRat wrote:
I meant in terms of overall styling and the fact that an FE & FE2 only had aperture priority and manual, so such a knob or dial was totally unnecessary. In my opinion the true beauty of the bunch was the FM FM2 which lacked all those options and only had the bare bones needed. I've never felt more at home with any camera more than my FM2.
Still have mine, 36 years after I bought it, great companion for my Leicas for long, wide and technical stuff. Great big viewfinder, Fuji Xt is a good successor, use them in manual (auto iso) all the time.
Shame they put such a mean viewfinder on the aps-c DSLRs, the D7000 I have is a miserable little viewfinder.
gyoung143 wrote:
Still have mine, 36 years after I bought it, great companion for my Leicas for long, wide and technical stuff. Great big viewfinder, Fuji Xt is a good successor, use them in manual (auto iso) all the time.
Shame they put such a mean viewfinder on the aps-c DSLRs, the D7000 I have is a miserable little viewfinder.
Gerry
My parents bought me my FM2/ w 50mm f1.8 as a high school graduation gift. I'm 61. Yeah, the viewfinder is gigantic.
Do you remember the ad Nikon ran advertising the stopped bullet (1/4000 sp) ?
KankRat wrote:
My parents bought me my FM2/ w 50mm f1.8 as a high school graduation gift. I'm 61. Yeah, the viewfinder is gigantic.
Do you remember the ad Nikon ran advertising the stopped bullet (1/4000 sp) ?
Don't remember the ad! Mine was a reaction buy after trying a Leica R4, quite the most unreliable camera I ever owned or knew of.
I had used F, F2 and F3 professionally so I knew them well. I'm 81 now, don't use film much anymore though there's some in the freezer.
Personally I love the Z50 II, and find it punches far above its price point with regards to image quality and performance. AF is very comparable to the Z5 II and even the Z6 III, and while the sensor isn't anything new I also think it was an outstanding sensor from its launch and it still holds up.
Given current Fujifilm pricing, I'd have a hard time moving there again at the moment, but I've always liked their cameras, even without the most performant AF on the market.
As to quality - I have found the Z50 II to be my preferred camera for shooting birds, and find any high ISO noise cleans up very nicely with modern NR tools.
Here's a shot at ISO 7200 with the Z50 II and 180-600:
