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p.132 #1 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


EF 70-200/2.8 L IS, 73mm, 1/640 sec., f/2.8, ISO 400








Apr 30, 2026 at 07:07 PM
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p.132 #2 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


I personally think a Porsche 356 Cabriolet just has plenty of 3D pop built right in. This car is probably older than most photographers in this thread. If I'm not mistaken, it was the first series-produced Porsche ever. The engineers back then really put a lot of thought into it — and apparently, they also threw in a little bit of 3D pop, which was still quite a new thing at the time.

DSC09508 by stm geist, auf Flickr

DSC09514 by stm geist, auf Flickr

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May 03, 2026 at 07:30 AM
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p.132 #3 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


A Shelby Cobra also has a bit of 3D pop built in, but not quite as much as the Porsche 356. I think it's because the engineers who developed the Shelby Cobra in the 1960s — as a British-American project — weren't quite as advanced as the German engineers at Porsche yet. They were still getting their first experiences with 3D pop, so to speak.

DSC09308 by stm geist, auf Flickr



May 03, 2026 at 08:09 AM
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p.132 #4 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Beautiful 3D pop!!! Which lens did you use--Batis?


May 03, 2026 at 09:57 AM
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p.132 #5 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Schwarzlicht wrote:
I personally think a Porsche 356 Cabriolet just has plenty of 3D pop built right in. This car is probably older than most photographers in this thread. If I'm not mistaken, it was the first series-produced Porsche ever. The engineers back then really put a lot of thought into it — and apparently, they also threw in a little bit of 3D pop, which was still quite a new thing at the time.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55245654213_a05aeb534e_k.jpgDSC09508 by stm geist, auf Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55242693163_0434195380_k.jpgDSC09514 by stm geist, auf Flickr


Definitely one of my favorite cars ever. Here is the car the belonged to my father-in-law before he passed away. It was a 356 C, with the four cam engine. One of only 30 that were made. He was the second owner and had it from the early 70s. It sold for over a million dollars at auction.












May 03, 2026 at 10:53 AM
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jojib wrote:
Beautiful 3D pop!!! Which lens did you use--Batis?



Yes, the 18/2.8



May 03, 2026 at 12:08 PM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Definitely one of my favorite cars ever. Here is the car the belonged to my father-in-law before he passed away. It was a 356 C, with the four cam engine. One of only 30 that were made. He was the second owner and had it from the early 70s. It sold for over a million dollars at auction.



It's definitely a beautiful car. I actually came across the owners several times a day — an older couple, late 60s, early 70s. She was dressed the way a worldly woman driving a convertible in the 1970s would be dressed: sunglasses and a nice headscarf.







May 03, 2026 at 12:14 PM
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Schwarzlicht wrote:
A Shelby Cobra also has a bit of 3D pop built in, but not quite as much as the Porsche 356. I think it's because the engineers who developed the Shelby Cobra in the 1960s — as a British-American project — weren't quite as advanced as the German engineers at Porsche yet. They were still getting their first experiences with 3D pop, so to speak.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55241698897_df87d09611_k.jpgDSC09308 by stm geist, auf Flickr


As usual, any "pop" here is the result of the things we've mentioned earlier:

1. Strong sense of perspective

2. Brightest and most colorful subject in the foreground.

3. Background far less colorful and saturated, and with a very different range of colors and muted luminosity.

4. A bit of vignetting (either by lens or post-processing) helps focus attention on the primary subject.



May 03, 2026 at 12:34 PM
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Schwarzlicht wrote:
Yes, the 18/2.8


I really like the Batis line. I have the 85/1.8 which is fantastic. I almost bought a second hand 40/2 but eventually settled on a brand new 40/2.5 G. I'm still missing a ~24mm prime for the A7V so I might check out the 25/2.



May 03, 2026 at 01:15 PM
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So after a ten-year hiatus, I am back. What was the conclusion? What is 3D and what causes it?


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p.132 #11 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Here is a 15-year old shot, probably appears earlier in the thread, but I am not sure how to find it:







From memory, it was taken with a Nikon D3 and a mount-swapped Leica Summilux-R 35mm f/1,4.

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May 03, 2026 at 05:15 PM
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carstenw wrote:
So after a ten-year hiatus, I am back. What was the conclusion?


42.




May 03, 2026 at 06:24 PM
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p.132 #13 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


I think I posted this before but decided to revisit it and process with my own profile. For cut out look, the voigtlander 40/1.2 is hard to beat...




May 04, 2026 at 12:32 AM
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p.132 #14 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


jeffersoncasey wrote:
I think I posted this before but decided to revisit it and process with my own profile. For cut out look, the voigtlander 40/1.2 is hard to beat...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOs--yXOnQTGrrW-QC6pO_CFRfsbISQoViItreyaJwDrR-vmo9xwjDpZqaK6Xe8u-AShEznfIqc6Fll-g95rrQpOktiC1QyQc3J9ozu3RYr7WKc-lQJDmpuEVjhiopewO1U3qr0nsEzx7zeqdfsV7LZ=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0


To my untrained eye, this appears very convincingly as 3d K-pop.



May 04, 2026 at 12:54 AM
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jcolwell wrote:
42.



Hah! I had the suspicion!



May 04, 2026 at 01:04 PM
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I am just reading through some older threads on this topic, but unfortunately most of the images are missing:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/530337/
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/829238/
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/839374/

I want to pick up a Zeiss 35mm f/1,4 again. Is there any consensus on whether the Contax or the Zeiss ZF/ZE/... yields the most 3D? Or maybe the Otus, or another one of these newer Zeiss sub-brands?



May 04, 2026 at 01:12 PM
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carstenw wrote:
I am just reading through some older threads on this topic, but unfortunately most of the images are missing:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/530337/
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/829238/
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/839374/

I want to pick up a Zeiss 35mm f/1,4 again. Is there any consensus on whether the Contax or the Zeiss ZF/ZE/... yields the most 3D? Or maybe the Otus, or another one of these newer Zeiss sub-brands?


Hi Carsten!
Great to see you here, back again, and in full swing!
I would go for the old C/Y version.
The ZE and ZF are newer designs, more "flawless" and less organic or coming with less flavour. So if it is the classic look you are after I think the C/Y is the right one. Less flare on the ZE and ZF.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1264356787028603/posts/2400910266706577/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1264356787028603/posts/1921950131269262/

All the above is what I read. My experience is limited to the C/Y version, a lens I liked a lot (weight aside) and we have all seen great samples of images taken with the C/Y. The ZE and ZF... surely better as more modern but I haven't seen the organic drawing style in the images I have stumbled upon.



May 04, 2026 at 01:35 PM
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carstenw wrote:
So after a ten-year hiatus, I am back. What was the conclusion? What is 3D and what causes it?


We skipped 4D pop and moved on to 5D pop.



May 04, 2026 at 02:55 PM
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carstenw wrote:
So after a ten-year hiatus, I am back. What was the conclusion? What is 3D and what causes it?


Stereoscopic vision.



May 04, 2026 at 03:08 PM
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jeffersoncasey wrote:
I think I posted this before but decided to revisit it and process with my own profile. For cut out look, the voigtlander 40/1.2 is hard to beat...




I think I'm just going to start copying and pasting my earlier reply, perhaps with change or two...

gdanmitchell wrote:
As usual, any "pop" here is the result of the things we've mentioned earlier:

1. Strong sense of perspective

2. ...most colorful subject in the foreground.
. I removed "brightest," since the subjects are darker, which can also work.

q3. Background far less colorful and saturated, and with a very different range of colors and muted luminosity.*

4. A bit of vignetting (either by lens or post-processing) helps focus attention on the primary subject.


This photograph illustrates one other factor that can help make subjects stand out: The bright, warm (red!) colors on the subjects along with their skin tones contrast with — and make them stand out from — the much cooler (bluish) tones in the background.

*Speaking of #3, I'll bet you could make those central figures even a bit more "present" by doing something about the bright red spot on the building along the upper right margin. I'd consider way desaturating it or even cropping the image to remove it. I'll be you like the results. :-)




May 04, 2026 at 03:10 PM
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