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Re: Official: Leica M11


flash wrote:
I don't think an EVF based camera for M lenses will or should be called an M. It'll get it's own letter. Otherwise there'll be carnage from the die hards. I proposed calling it an *N*, for *not* an M. That camera can have IBIS and a flippy screen and even video.

Hypocritically, I don't want IBIS on a M camera. I know I've been a fan (and still am) of the changes in the M11, so I should be all in for modernising. And I have a bunch of cameras with IBIS which I really like and I appreciate the benifits IBIS gives me.

But not on an M. There's no doubt IBIS would make things easier on the M. But I don't actually want the M to make it easier. The M is the only camera left that rewards good technique. Shuuter, Aperture, ISO, hold it steady, SHOOT! Sure, you can turn stuff off on other cameras. But the M is the last camera that REQUIRES excellent technique. I means you need to give it the time to learn it and master it and then practice to maintain those skills. I think M-D fans will get how I feel about this. The M is the thinking mans camera.

For less money you can Kolari mod your A7R4 and get everthing except a rangefinder. And I really do feel Leica will need to address this particular market with the N11. I'd be first in line. You can use the SL2(S) but it's not the same. I like my SL2 but it's a different beast to a smaller camera with a viewfinder on the top left corner.

The XPro4 will have IBIS. Fuji have shoe horned it into the XT4 already. If the next X sensor is 40MP, like the rumours suggest then it'll be a compelling little camera. But I have a couple of XPro cameras and they don't challenge me like the M.

The next *revolution* is computational photography. It's coming. It's here in your phone and really close in the OM-1. As the sofware geniuses get closer to making an iPhone spit out results indistinguishable from a Sony A7S or a Canon 5D2, I still have a place for a camera that's a little bit difficult to use.

There is no doubt that the perfect camera for my use case is the GFX100S. Huge, robust files. Tri flip screen. Lots of lenses in my preferred range. IBIS, Zooms. Eye AF. etc... And I really like my GFX100S. But it doesn't give me that same satisfaction as using an M. Not even close. I use my other cameras when I have to and my M's when I want to.

Some photographers are only concerned about the results. Others are more in awe of the process of making an image. I'm definitely in the latter camp.

Gordon


I would agree with everything you say here, but I would add that IBIS does need to settle as you shoot so there is a little delay as it kicks in and I don't want that for many of my Leica M shots. I know I could shut it off and not have to deal with it, but sometimes with the M I want to zone focus and just bring the camera up to my eye and shoot and for those types of shots I definitely don't want to have to wait for IBIS to settle. I would be fine with having IBIS on a Leica M, but I think for my use I would have it offer almost all the time, so I don't really miss not having it at all.



Feb 25, 2022 at 05:08 PM





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