anselwannab wrote:
To me, it seems the M11 is not what it needs to be. The slow electronic shutter and lack of IBIS are holding it back from what it really could be. The M12 with a global shutter and IBIS and 90MP? That would be the beast. I'm not a MP idiot, I find that 20+MP is more than enough for what I do. If you want a stone-cold photography machine, the M11 has let the MP outpace the other things to maximize performance. Not a bad camera, I just think that it is missing some bits that would make it a truly great camera. I'd rather get a M10 and wait for the M12. USB-C, bigger battery, and more MP? Nice, but not transformative.
My wife has offered to buy me a M11, but I think I'm going to get an M10 and wait to plunk down my $12,000 on an M12. Ugh...
The thing is for me, I don't want an M camera to be transformative. I want an M camera to be an M camera. Sure a faster electronic shutter or even a global shutter and IBIS would me nice, but not if they made the camera even a smidge bigger. In my use cases for the M there is limited use for a faster electronic shutter. I am fine with a quiet mechanical shutter almost all the time. As for IBIS, I might use it a bit but most of the time I would want a higher shutter speed or I would pull out a tripod. What for me would be those few in between cases, sure it would be nice but I can work around those situations pretty effectively almost all the time. I would rather have an M camera be the size and form factor that the M10 and M11 are than even be a little bit bigger like the M240 and have IBIS and/or a faster electronic shutter. There are lots of cameras that have IBIS and a faster electronic shutter, but there aren't any other cameras like an M.
Mar 23, 2022 at 07:44 AM
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anselwannab wrote:
To me, it seems the M11 is not what it needs to be. The slow electronic shutter and lack of IBIS are holding it back from what it really could be. The M12 with a global shutter and IBIS and 90MP? That would be the beast. I'm not a MP idiot, I find that 20+MP is more than enough for what I do. If you want a stone-cold photography machine, the M11 has let the MP outpace the other things to maximize performance. Not a bad camera, I just think that it is missing some bits that would make it a truly great camera. I'd rather get a M10 and wait for the M12. USB-C, bigger battery, and more MP? Nice, but not transformative.
My wife has offered to buy me a M11, but I think I'm going to get an M10 and wait to plunk down my $12,000 on an M12. Ugh...
The thing is for me, I don't want an M camera to be transformative. I want an M camera to be an M camera. Sure a faster electronic shutter or even a global shutter and IBIS would me nice, but not if they made the camera even a smidge bigger. In my use cases for the M there is limited use for a faster electronic shutter. I am fine with a quiet mechanical shutter almost all the time. As for IBIS, I might use it a bit but most of the time I would want a higher shutter speed or I would pull out a tripod. What for me would be those few in between cases, sure it would be nice but I can work around those situations pretty effectively almost all the time. I would rather have an M camera be the size and form factor that the M10 and M11 are than even be a little bit bigger like the M264 and have IBIS and/or a faster electronic shutter. There are lots of cameras that have IBIS and a faster electronic shutter, but there aren't any other cameras like an M.
Mar 23, 2022 at 06:30 AM
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