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Re: Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


There is a very informative article on the topic with the different filter stacks and their effects from phillipreeve.net.
Identical performance will probably not be achieved, but the results with Nikon Z are significantly better than with Sony E-mount when it comes to adapting M-mount lenses.
For this, you probably need a mod, like the Kolari version, or an M-body directly.
Nevertheless, a Nikon Z-body, at least with the filter stack of the Z6 tested there, is probably by far the best basis for adapting M-mount lenses after a native M-body and/or a filter stack modification such as the Kolari Mod.
The performance losses are therefore not even remotely comparable to the two Sony bodys tested there, whose filter stack reveals considerably more flaws when adapting M-mount lenses.
Several Voigtlander VM-mount lenses were compared with the different cameras/filter stacks.
The Nikon Z6 looks much better and it also depends on the lens.


Different Filter Stacks and what they mean for us: Sony E | Nikon Z | Leica M | Kolari UT

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/different-filter-stacks-and-what-they-mean-for-us-sony-e-nikon-z-leica-m-kolari-ut/

For lazy readers, here's the summary:

Conclusion

"When the first Sony fullframe E-mount cameras hit the market, one groundbreaking feature was, that you could adapt all kind of legacy lenses to them. It was also the first time, the compact fullframe M-mount lenses could be used on a significantly more affordable camera.
At that time most people weren’t aware of filter stack differences.
With today’s high performance lenses with short register distance it actually makes a notable difference for what filter stack they have originally been designed for though – at least when it comes to wide angle lenses.
The compact M-mount lenses work best on a Leica M10 or a Kolari UT modded camera.
In terms of color cast the Kolari modded cameras actually perform better than all the Leica M cameras that came before the M11.
When it comes to Nikon’s Z-mount cameras there were a lot of rumors regarding their filter stack thickness and how well they work with M-mount wide angle lenses. I don’t like rumors, I like facts, so I decided to check for myself.
And what we found out here is, that they may not work as well with these M-mount wide angle lenses as a Leica M or Kolari modded camera, but in many cases they come very close.
And they play much better with these lenses than stock Sony E-mount cameras.
When using native E-mount wide angle lenses on a Kolari UT modded camera they show a similar degradation in image quality in the corners as M-mount wide angle lenses do when used on a stock Sony camera – physics work in both ways.
You can already find some comparisons showing this here.
If you are looking for a camera to adapt legacy lenses to in 2024, you should definitely have a closer look at Nikon’s Z-mount cameras.
But not only legacy lenses, also Sony’s E-mount lenses can be adapted to those Z-mount cameras with surprisingly well working AF, making them the most versatile fullframe cameras you can find today."





Jul 21, 2024 at 03:00 AM
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Re: Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


There is a very informative article on the topic with the different filter stacks and their effects from phillipreeve.net.
Identical performance will probably not be achieved, but the results with Nikon Z are significantly better than with Sony E-mount when it comes to adapting M-mount lenses.
For this, you probably need a mod, like the Kolari version, or an M-body directly.
Nevertheless, a Nikon Z-body, at least with the filter stack of the Z6 tested there, is probably by far the best basis for adapting M-mount lenses after a native M-body and/or a filter stack modification such as the Kolari Mod.
The performance losses are therefore not even remotely comparable to the two Sony bodys tested there, whose filter stack reveals considerably more flaws when adapting M-mount lenses.
Several Voigtlander VM-mount lenses were compared with the different cameras/filter stacks.
The Nikon Z6 looks much better and it also depends on the lens.


Different Filter Stacks and what they mean for us: Sony E | Nikon Z | Leica M | Kolari UT

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/different-filter-stacks-and-what-they-mean-for-us-sony-e-nikon-z-leica-m-kolari-ut/

For lazy readers, here's the summary:

Conclusion

"When the first Sony fullframe E-mount cameras hit the market, one groundbreaking feature was, that you could adapt all kind of legacy lenses to them. It was also the first time, the compact fullframe M-mount lenses could be used on a significantly more affordable camera. At that time most people weren’t aware of filter stack differences. With today’s high performance lenses with short register distance it actually makes a notable difference for what filter stack they have originally been designed for though – at least when it comes to wide angle lenses. The compact M-mount lenses work best on a Leica M10 or a Kolari UT modded camera. In terms of color cast the Kolari modded cameras actually perform better than all the Leica M cameras that came before the M11. When it comes to Nikon’s Z-mount cameras there were a lot of rumors regarding their filter stack thickness and how well they work with M-mount wide angle lenses. I don’t like rumors, I like facts, so I decided to check for myself. And what we found out here is, that they may not work as well with these M-mount wide angle lenses as a Leica M or Kolari modded camera, but in many cases they come very close. And they play much better with these lenses than stock Sony E-mount cameras. When using native E-mount wide angle lenses on a Kolari UT modded camera they show a similar degradation in image quality in the corners as M-mount wide angle lenses do when used on a stock Sony camera – physics work in both ways. You can already find some comparisons showing this here. If you are looking for a camera to adapt legacy lenses to in 2024, you should definitely have a closer look at Nikon’s Z-mount cameras. But not only legacy lenses, also Sony’s E-mount lenses can be adapted to those Z-mount cameras with surprisingly well working AF, making them the most versatile fullframe cameras you can find today."





Jul 21, 2024 at 02:46 AM





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