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dj63401 wrote:
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Out the Window - hand held practice footage

I'm practicing holding the camera inside the car and facing out the window. What do you think - is this image quality acceptable for amateur Youtube videos?
When you watch this video pretend that I am driving through the Rocky Mountains or some beautiful scenic countryside.

This was shot with an ultra-wide Canon RF16 f2.8 lens which is notoriously bad for IBIS-wobble when on a Canon R5, but shooting at 4K120 smooths out the bumps and wobbles quite a lot.

Thanks,
Rudy


Rudy,

I think it is fine for YouTube.
Would you be using footage like this for B-roll or a moving documentary of sorts?

Dave


Thanks for your feedback, Dave. I plan on using this kind of footage as B-roll to add a bit of interest to my typical wildlife videos.

I'm experimenting with ways to increase the sense of taking viewers on a little adventure with me into the forest or by the river or lake. Right now all my videos take place at the location where the subject is, for example at the Osprey nest, the pond where the Grebes are, the spot where the Owl is perched, etc. What I would like to do is make the whole video feel more like going on a little day-trip which naturally would include getting to the filming location and likely leaving it, hence the "out the car window" footage. Anyways, that's the plan.

I'm also working on improving my technique of walking in the woods while hand holding my camera while filming. This also is to add interest to my typically static videos and hopefully will give folks a sense walking along with me on the trails. To get an appreciation of being in the woods I feel you need some kind of a wide angle lens so I bought the Canon RF 16 f2.8 which is the only one I could afford (the RF 16-35 is out of the question for my budget). Anyways, the IBIS wobble with the RF 16 f2.8 on the R5 is insane so I've been practicing how to mitigate that. I've just discovered that shooting in 4K120 does reduce it but only very slightly, not enough to make it useable. However, shooting the RF 16 f2.8 in 4K60 crop mode gives a massive improvement because you're now effectively shooting with a 27mm wide angle lens instead of a 16mm ultra-wide. This makes all the difference in the world - no more pesky IBIS wobble in the upper corners and the field of view is still wide enough to give a good sense of being in the woods. Plus, you get the added benefit of great image resolution since this video format is down-sampled from a 5.1K sample of the sensor.

I've been looking into getting a small gimbal for this purpose, but my big concern is that even the new DJI RS4 mini, which sounds amazing, would add another 2 pounds or more to my overall kit. It would be a far better solution for me if I could produce half decent handheld walking in the woods footage without needing any additional gear.

Cheers,
Rudy




Mar 01, 2025 at 11:03 AM

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Re: Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...


dj63401 wrote:
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Out the Window - hand held practice footage

I'm practicing holding the camera inside the car and facing out the window. What do you think - is this image quality acceptable for amateur Youtube videos?
When you watch this video pretend that I am driving through the Rocky Mountains or some beautiful scenic countryside.

This was shot with an ultra-wide Canon RF16 f2.8 lens which is notoriously bad for IBIS-wobble when on a Canon R5, but shooting at 4K120 smooths out the bumps and wobbles quite a lot.

Thanks,
Rudy


Rudy,

I think it is fine for YouTube.
Would you be using footage like this for B-roll or a moving documentary of sorts?

Dave


Thanks for your feedback, Dave. I plan on using this kind of footage as B-roll to add a bit of interest to my typical wildlife videos.

I'm experimenting with ways to increase the sense of taking viewers on a little adventure with me into the forest or by the river or lake. Right now all my videos take place at the location where the subject is, for example at the Osprey nest, the pond where the Grebes are, the spot where the Owl is perched, etc. What I would like to do is make the whole video feel more like going on a little day-trip which naturally would include getting to the filming location and likely leaving it, hence the "out the car window" footage. Anyways, that's the plan.

I'm also working on improving my technique of walking in the woods while hand holding my camera while filming. This also is to add interest to my typically static videos and hopefully will give folks a sense walking along with me on the trails. To get an appreciation of being in the woods I feel you need some kind of a wide angle lens so I bought the Canon RF 16 f2.8 which is the only one I could afford (the RF 16-35 is out of the question for my budget). Anyways, the IBIS wobble with the RF 16 f2.8 on the R5 is insane so I've been practicing how to mitigate that. I've just discovered that shooting in 4K120 does reduce it but only very slightly, not enough to make it useable. However, shooting the RF 16 f2.8 in 4K60 crop mode gives a massive improvement because you're now effectively shooting with a 27mm wide angle lens instead of a 16mm ultra-wide. This makes all the difference in the world - no more pesky IBIS wobble in the upper corners and the field of view is still wide enough to give a good sense of being in the woods. Plus, you get the added benefit of great image resolution since since this video format is down-sampled from a 5.1K sample of the sensor.

I've been looking into getting a small gimbal for this purpose, but my big concern is that even the new DJI RS4 mini, which sounds amazing, would add another 2 pounds or more to my overall kit. It would be a far better solution for me if I could produce half decent handheld walking in the woods footage without needing any additional gear.

Cheers,
Rudy




Mar 01, 2025 at 11:03 AM

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Re: Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...


dj63401 wrote:
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Out the Window - hand held practice footage

I'm practicing holding the camera inside the car and facing out the window. What do you think - is this image quality acceptable for amateur Youtube videos?
When you watch this video pretend that I am driving through the Rocky Mountains or some beautiful scenic countryside.

This was shot with an ultra-wide Canon RF16 f2.8 lens which is notoriously bad for IBIS-wobble when on a Canon R5, but shooting at 4K120 smooths out the bumps and wobbles quite a lot.

Thanks,
Rudy


Rudy,

I think it is fine for YouTube.
Would you be using footage like this for B-roll or a moving documentary of sorts?

Dave


Thanks for your feedback, Dave. I plan on using this kind of footage as B-roll to add a bit of interest to my typical wildlife videos.

I'm experimenting with ways to increase the sense of taking viewers on a little adventure with me into the forest or by the river or lake. Right now all my videos take place at the location where the subject is, for example at the Osprey nest, the pond where the Grebes are, the spot where the Owl is perched, etc. What I would like to do is make the whole video feel more like going on a little day-trip which naturally would include getting to the filming location and likely leaving it, hence the "out the car window" footage. Anyways, that's the plan.

I'm also working on improving my technique of walking in the woods while hand holding my camera while filming. This also is to add interest to my typically static videos and hopefully will give folks a sense walking along with me on the trails. To get an appreciation of being in the woods I feel you need some kind of a wide angle lens so I bought the Canon RF 16 f2.8 which is the only one I could afford (the RF 16-35 is out of the question for my budget). Anyways, the IBIS wobble with the RF 16 f2.8 on the R5 is insane so I've been practicing how to mitigate that. I've just discovered that shooting in 4K120 does reduce it but only very slightly, not enough to make it useable. However, shooting the RF 16 f2.8 in 4K60 crop mode gives a massive improvement because you're now effectively shooting with a 27mm wide angle lens instead of a 16mm ultra-wide. This makes all the difference in the world - no more pesky IBIS wobble and the field of view is still wide enough to give a good sense of being in the woods. Plus, you get the added benefit of great image resolution since since this video format is down-sampled from a 5.1K sample of the sensor.

I've been looking into getting a small gimbal for this purpose, but my big concern is that even the new DJI RS4 mini, which sounds amazing, would add another 2 pounds or more to my overall kit. It would be a far better solution for me if I could produce half decent handheld walking in the woods footage without needing any additional gear.

Cheers,
Rudy




Mar 01, 2025 at 11:01 AM

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Re: Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...


dj63401 wrote:
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Out the Window - hand held practice footage

I'm practicing holding the camera inside the car and facing out the window. What do you think - is this image quality acceptable for amateur Youtube videos?
When you watch this video pretend that I am driving through the Rocky Mountains or some beautiful scenic countryside.

This was shot with an ultra-wide Canon RF16 f2.8 lens which is notoriously bad for IBIS-wobble when on a Canon R5, but shooting at 4K120 smooths out the bumps and wobbles quite a lot.

Thanks,
Rudy


Rudy,

I think it is fine for YouTube.
Would you be using footage like this for B-roll or a moving documentary of sorts?

Dave


Thanks for your feedback, Dave. I plan on using this kind of footage as B-roll to add a bit of interest to my typical wildlife videos.

I'm experimenting with ways to increase the sense of taking viewers on a little adventure with me into the forest or by the river or lake. Right now all my videos take place at the location where the subject is, for example at the Osprey nest, the pond where the Grebes are, the spot where the Owl is perched, etc. What I would like to do is make the whole video feel more like going on a little day-trip which naturally would include getting to the filming location and likely leaving it, hence the "out the car window" footage. Anyways, that's the plan.

I'm also working on improving my technique of walking in the woods while hand holding my camera while filming. This also is to add interest to my typically static videos and hopefully will give folks a sense walking along with me on the trails. To get an appreciation of being in the woods I feel you need some kind of a wide angle lens so I bought the Canon RF 16 f2.8 which is the only one could afford (the RF 16-35 is out of the question for my budget). Anyways, the IBIS wobble with the RF 16 f2.8 on the R5 is insane so I've been practicing how to mitigate that. I've just discovered that shooting in 4K120 does reduce it but only very slightly, not enough to make it useable. However, shooting the RF 16 f2.8 in 4K60 crop mode gives a massive improvement because you're now effectively shooting with a 27mm wide angle lens instead of a 16mm ultra-wide. This makes all the difference in the world - no more pesky IBIS wobble and the field of view is still wide enough to give a good sense of being in the woods. Plus, you get the added benefit of great image resolution since since this video format is down-sampled from a 5.1K sample of the sensor.

I've been looking into getting a small gimbal for this purpose, but my big concern is that even the new DJI RS4 mini, which sounds amazing, would add another 2 pounds or more to my overall kit. It would be a far better solution for me if I could produce half decent handheld walking in the woods footage without needing any additional gear.

Cheers,
Rudy




Mar 01, 2025 at 08:04 AM





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