Greg7579 wrote:
I am editing this post because I screwed up the quote function again, and thus responded to the wrong guy. This is in response to my old friend High Desert Mesa, who said:
Greg, this all sounds a bit close-minded. You've worded this like "I know what GFX shooters like", when in fact it's just what you like and might be what some other GFX shooters like. Also keep in mind not every Fujifilm 44x33 product moving forward will be designed to appeal to the existing GFX user base – they want to grab other piles of cash not aligned with the GFX.
And I responded to him by writing this brilliant essay:
No no no, my old friend. Nope.,.. You sound exactly like the old grumpy dictator (who I always loved) who is way past his Mod term limit over there on the MF DPR test and spoke chart shooting site where disagreement with King K over his Royal Proclamations are silenced like Joan of Arc being burned at the stake. 🥸
Jim gets furious at me for using the term "we" or "GFX Shooters" as a colloquialism when you know exactly what I mean. When I say "we" it is not absolute, but after talking to hundreds of GFX and Hassy shooters in the past 6 years I think I can say that the great majority of the current ones do not shoot jpeg and probably don't care about having a dial with 9 "aspect ratios" for fake cropping a raw or real cropping an in-camera jpeg on the body. They "all" crop in post. That is not an absolute scientific poll or definitive statement of fact. There is no "all" in anything (except that we are all going to die at some point.)
It is a general observation and form of expression, like when I say, "We spend the money on GFX because of the res and IQ," which infuriates the King but of course both he and you know that is true.
Let me tell you something else "we" don't do. "We" don't call the MF sensor a measurement. That is something that the Great Tyrant Dictator (😁 has tried and failed to do in the GFX and Hassy marketplace for years. No one does it but him and 3 other guys I know. That whole ridiculous naming convention effort is all in deference to MF and LF film sizes of the past and does nothing but cause confusion in the present, as if there were companies selling MF cameras that have a different sensor size than GFX and Hassy (P1 doesn't count so don't even try to go there).
Anyway, you have a good point about that ridiculous dial that I didn't consider. Fuji knows that guys like me, you, James, Doppler, Mike, and 20 other very experienced and serious GFX shooters you and I know that aren't going to be cropping jpegs in camera with a dial or worrying about getting some in-camera crop lines on a raw file when they open it in LR or C1. They aren't messing around with that gimmick.
But you have a point.... Maybe Fuji is trying the attract Fuji X and other MFT, APSC and entry-level equipment FF shooters who can now enter the MF world because of this one amazing camera (the GFX Q4), without having to invest in other GFX gear. It is a standalone for many potential customers.
They probably think differently than you and me. You have a good point there. Fuji ain't stupid, and they don't care if I don't like a dedicated dial because they know I'm not gonna use it but will buy it anyway.... I was stunned that anyone would want this dedicated dial with 9 crop sizes on it. But you are onto something there. Good post - except for your scolding me (like Kasson did for 6 years) for saying "we" and "GFX Shooters" and also, I reprimand you and am providing your first warning for using that stupid measurement name for our MF sensor. 😁
As I said in a response to HigDesertMesa that should have gone to you, I think the GFX aspect ratio dial is similar in conception and in the intended user experience to the Fuji Film Simulation Modes--they are both modifications of the shooting experience that make it possible to play with elements while shooting that are traditionally done much later in post-processing, if they are ever done at all. Many people enjoy this.
There are lots of ways to use a camera and to enjoy making a photo, and there are many types of photographers who enjoy making pictures in their own ways. Fuji has had a lot of success with their Film Simulation Modes. No reason to diss them or the Aspect Ratio dial. You are simply not the photogorapher for who it is intended. So what?
Mar 22, 2025 at 05:42 PM
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has tried and failed to do in the GFX and Hassy marketplace for years. No one does it but him and 3 other guys I know. That whole ridiculous naming convention effort is all in deference to MF and LF film sizes of the past and does nothing but cause confusion in the present, as if there were companies selling MF cameras that have a different sensor size than GFX and Hassy (P1 doesn't count so don't even try to go there).