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Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review

  
 
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hanay78 wrote:
for me decission between this or the batis 135 may depend on size. it is much smaller than batis? because it is like 150g heavier...



It's about a half inch or so shorter than the Batis, and a maybe a centimeter or so narrower in diameter.



Dec 13, 2018 at 05:54 PM
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p.9 #2 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


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Perhaps some comparison with the CV 125? The 110 should handle better off of tripod as the distance encoder allows for 5 axis image stabilization vs 3 axes. X/Y stabilization should be imp't for macro. The bokeh of the 125 is usually lovely but it can loose its magic above f5.6 so I try and stack if possible. At 1:1 the Lo CA of the110 already seems better than what I recall with the 125. Look forward to the analysis.



Don't have one, can't borrow one, and too expensive to buy a copy for review!



Dec 13, 2018 at 06:29 PM
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p.9 #3 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


did you have them in your hand? I mean, it is oyur impression the 110 is mcuh less bulkier?

bluloo wrote:
It's about a half inch or so shorter than the Batis, and a maybe a centimeter or so narrower in diameter.





Dec 13, 2018 at 06:32 PM
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p.9 #4 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


did you have them in your hand? I mean, it is oyur impression the 110 is mcuh less bulkier?

bluloo wrote:
It's about a half inch or so shorter than the Batis, and a maybe a centimeter or so narrower in diameter.





Dec 13, 2018 at 06:32 PM
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p.9 #5 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


hanay78 wrote:
for me decission between this or the batis 135 may depend on size. it is much smaller than batis? because it is like 150g heavier...



Yes, the Batis 135 is lighter but it's bigger. Here are they side by side just for you.












Dec 13, 2018 at 06:56 PM
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p.9 #6 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


hanay78 wrote:
did you have them in your hand? I mean, it is oyur impression the 110 is mcuh less bulkier?



Here's a link to the camera size comparison of the two lenses...those the CV isn't straight. Still, it's definitely smaller.

http://j.mp/2UHijf6



Dec 13, 2018 at 07:09 PM
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p.9 #7 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


hanay78 wrote:
did you have them in your hand? I mean, it is oyur impression the 110 is mcuh less bulkier?




Sorry, just saw this. Forum took good care of you anyway, I see.

I'd say the Batis is a bit "bulkier" as it's a larger diameter, and taller, but not by much.



Dec 13, 2018 at 09:20 PM
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p.9 #8 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


The 110/2.5 arrived, but alas no time tonight to play with it other than to get it out of the box and put a brand new B+W MRC on it and put it in a neoprene pouch. Hopefully tomorrow morning I'll have a few minutes.
Of course the weather is typical this time of year.



Dec 13, 2018 at 10:27 PM
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p.9 #9 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


jhinkey wrote:
The 110/2.5 arrived, but alas no time tonight to play with it other than to get it out of the box and put a brand new B+W MRC on it and put it in a neoprene pouch. Hopefully tomorrow morning I'll have a few minutes.
Of course the weather is typical this time of year.


Mine is still sitting in the box after I took the plastic off and realized it was of course raining here again. Seattle winters never cease to surprise yet I somehow still believe I'd be able to get out and take some shots!



Dec 14, 2018 at 12:21 AM
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p.9 #10 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


fredjohnson wrote:
Mine is still sitting in the box after I took the plastic off and realized it was of course raining here again. Seattle winters never cease to surprise yet I somehow still believe I'd be able to get out and take some shots!


Take some macro shots inside the house!



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p.9 #11 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


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Take some macro shots inside the house!


You'd hate to know the lighting I have. If only there was a way to get the Google Pixel Night Vision enabled with my Sony!



Dec 14, 2018 at 12:59 AM
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p.9 #12 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


Yes, but we still don't have a decent 35mm lens. Cosina can make one, but they chose to bring us an ancient lens.

Fred Miranda wrote:
Only the first APO child is exciting!

I agree. For landscapes, the Batis 135/2.8 APO is just as good and the 100-400GM @110mm did a superb job as well. There is also the Loxia 85/2.4 coming super close to the 110/2.5's IQ and pretty much equal at f/5.6.
For portraits, we have 85/1.4 GM, Batis 135, Batis 85....and so on....

So, the CV 110/2.5 is doing everything well and on par with the CV 65/2 APO. We just have so many options right now making it more difficult to decide on what's best and how a new lens fits with our
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Dec 14, 2018 at 03:09 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Is it me or the CV 65/2 APO got more enthusiasm when first released? I remember we all wanted to get one and soon enough we had an explosion of samples.

Perhaps the new CV 110/2.5 APO is not as well desired or maybe its focal length makes it a more specialist lens?


Sony FE 90/2.8 G Macro + Sony FE 85/1.4 GM + hardly shoot Landscape above 50mm = no need for the CV 110/2.5 APO



Dec 14, 2018 at 03:42 AM
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p.9 #14 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


my God! they are similar!

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Yes, the Batis 135 is lighter but it's bigger. Here are they side by side just for you.





Dec 14, 2018 at 04:18 AM
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p.9 #15 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


gorgeous!

MAubrey wrote:
Here's a link to the camera size comparison of the two lenses...those the CV isn't straight. Still, it's definitely smaller.

http://j.mp/2UHijf6





Dec 14, 2018 at 04:19 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Is it me or the CV 65/2 APO got more enthusiasm when first released? I remember we all wanted to get one and soon enough we had an explosion of samples.

Perhaps the new CV 110/2.5 APO is not as well desired or maybe its focal length makes it a more specialist lens?


I am very excited to get mine. I had high expectations for this lens and if anything it has exceeded those high expectations. I don't see what is not to like. Yeah, there are some other excellent lens that do some of what this lens does, but in my view nothing comes close to doing everything that this lens can do. Let's compare it to the Loxia 85 (one of my favorite lenses) as an example. Both are excellent for landscape use. Both can make wonderful portraits, but the CV 110 also does excellent 1:1 macro and it costs less. Sure it is a little bigger, but that is always the price of having macro capabilities. Or let's compare it to the Sony G 90 macro. That also is an excellent macro lens, but I don't think from the samples I have seen that it beats the CV 110 even at macro, and I would prefer the longer focal length of the CV. They both also do pretty well at landscapes, but again the CV seems just a bit better. And for portraits, the competition isn't even close, in my view. The longer focal length together with the wider aperture just gives the CV a distinct advantage for portraits, and CV does all that while being smaller. The Batis 135 is wonderful too, and can compete well with the CV 110 for both landscapes and portraits, but it doesn't do macro like the CV. So for me this is a lens that does three things all very well, macro, landscapes, and portraits and that is fairly rare especially doing all three at such a high level. I think it is tough to beat for macro, and for landscapes perhaps the Batis 135 might just edge it out, although I would rate them as even given the different pluses and minuses, it is close to be as good as it gets, and still it is a very useful portrait lens (here, however, some portraits specialists like the GM 85 of the Sigma 135 would be a bit better). Still all three uses as a super high level and for just $1,100 at introduction. I think it is a phenomenal lens at a fantastic price. I suspect that some of the lack of enthusiasm is that it is a hard time of year for many to add an extra expenditure, but I expect over the next few months for many people to get this lens and for it to be one of the all time favorites among FM Sony shooters.



Dec 14, 2018 at 07:06 AM
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p.9 #17 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


sebbe wrote:
Sony FE 90/2.8 G Macro + Sony FE 85/1.4 GM + hardly shoot Landscape above 50mm = no need for the CV 110/2.5 APO


Perhaps no need for the CV in this scenario, but if it was me I would be replacing he Sony G 90 f/2.8 with the CV 110 and getting a lens that does macro just as well and does other things a bit better making it a more versatile lens. Then you could save the GM 85 for those situations in which you are just focussed on doing portraiture. For me there are times I would want to do a bit of macro and a bit of portraiture (for example out on a hike with friends) and I definitely wouldn't want to carry the G 90 Macro and the GM 85 in those situations. Having the CV 110 would just be much preferred, for me anyway.



Dec 14, 2018 at 07:12 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
I am very excited to get mine. I had high expectations for this lens and if anything it has exceeded those high expectations. I don't see what is not to like. Yeah, there are some other excellent lens that do some of what this lens does, but in my view nothing comes close to doing everything that this lens can do. Let's compare it to the Loxia 85 (one of my favorite lenses) as an example. Both are excellent for landscape use. Both can make wonderful portraits, but the CV 110 also does excellent 1:1 macro and it costs
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Hi Steve,

There are still other older fine Macro lenses that do well both for close up and landscape to consider and for those of us with them to keep including the Leica R 100mm f2.8 Apo-Macro-Elmarit and the 100mm Zeiss. For me, reasons to keep my Leica are I can use it on many different camera systems; use it for macro (up to 1:1 wth the 1:1 Elpro); focus is like butter and extremely well damped; has sufficient coverage for the Fujifilm GFX cameras; use it with my Cambo Actus on my Leica R lens plate for rise/fall shift, tilt, and swing due to image circle; use it with my Leica R 2X Apo Extender; use it with the Sony 1.4X and 2X Teleconverters; use it on my Sony A7r series cameras with my Novoflex ASTAT lens collar with Arca Swiss Type foot for better stablitly and support; etc. Yes the new CV 110 may be a little better, E-mount, and is 1:1 capable without an extension tube or an additional front element supplemental lens.

Rich






Dec 14, 2018 at 07:19 AM
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p.9 #19 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


Two reasons: Canon EOS R and Nikon Z6/7. Demand has cooled. Almost all CV lenses in FE mount are readily available without the need for a preorder and waiting in line.

They shouldn’t have delayed its release, IMO.

Fred Miranda wrote:
Is it me or the CV 65/2 APO got more enthusiasm when first released? I remember we all wanted to get one and soon enough we had an explosion of samples.

Perhaps the new CV 110/2.5 APO is not as well desired or maybe its focal length makes it a more specialist lens?





Dec 14, 2018 at 07:47 AM
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p.9 #20 · Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review


All of the CV 110/2.5, CV 125/2.5, Zeiss 100/2 MP, Leica 100/2.8 Apo, Sony 90/2.8 are very fine lenses, so the perceived advantage of switching may not be great enough for everyone.

In my case an AF lens is much better for portraits than an MF lens. Then there is the subject of focus throw, where I prefer old school long focus throw for landscape, and both of the CV 65/2 and 110/2.5 have a too short focus throw for my taste, so I find them fiddly for landscape. For macro I find AF to be useful. In addition the Sony 90/2.8 allows MF both with a rather classical focus ring with a scale, and you can do modern style focus by wire, that so many don't like. Modern style focus by wire can be learnt, and then you can reap the benefit of an enormously precise focus mechanism with a very long focus throw, which is great for landscape. If the CV 110/2.5 had a much longer focus throw from 5 meters to infinity, I would be much more positive about using it for landscapes photography. This could make it less of a niche lens, imho.

Optically the CV 110/2.5 is of course top drawer, but it's not alone in that category, and there are more lenses that are optically great, like the Sony 90/2.8 G. I'd like to see an apochromatic macro lens with a better thought out focus throw to easier harness its optical capabilities. AF would be nice too, but perhaps not realistic.

Regarding LoCA the Sony 90/2.8 G is much better corrected than lenses like the Nikon AF-S 105/2.8 VR and Zeiss 100/2 MP. It's the poor correction of LoCA in those two lenses (Nikon and Zeiss) that originally made me interest in apochromatic lenses, and at the time those were the CV 125/2.5 and Leica 100/2.8 apo. The level of correction in the Sony 90/2.8 G is so good that I see no need to give up AF, eye-AF or the choice of short or long focus throw through either focus scale (short) or through true focus-by-wire (long).

There are two ways of switching the Sony 90/2.8 G to MF, if you leave the focus ring in the AF position and switch to MF in the Fn menu you get a much longer focus throw than if you pull the focus ring to the MF position. In addition the focus scale can be adjusted to a predetrmined distance, so you can switch from AF to a preset distance by pulling the focus ringvto the MF position. Lots of goodies here, imho.

Sorry for a bit long-winded post.

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