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Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review

  
 
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p.11 #1 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


httivals wrote:
So it will be roughly equivalent to an excellent 28mm f1.8 (only using the somewhat reduced center portion of the 24mm f1.4)? . . . Great, imho.



Yeah, just many people may be very happy with that. Others might be a bit disappointed if they didn't realize that it won't have quite the high ISO performance of the lens and 24mm and not just a reduction in resolution.



Jul 16, 2019 at 12:26 PM
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HelBen85 wrote:
I don't think so. There was no comparison of the overall rendering in this review. On page 5 you can see complete pictures taken with both lenses, albeit in smaller sizes, and for me the colors of the Loxia look a bit better.
Of course, the last samples of Fred look great but these are great pictures, not necessarily because of the used lens.

However, I see a continuous improvement of the Voigtländer lenses. For my taste, the rendering (for landscape shots) of the 60mm f2 was good, but much worse than that of the 50mm Loxia, the 40mm f1.2 was better,
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I'm sorry, I was referring to the older "classic" and Milvus series. Does Cosina make the Loxia and Batis?



Jul 16, 2019 at 02:21 PM
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p.11 #3 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


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With 61MP, a 24mm FL cropped to 28mm gives us 45MP. (26MP when cropped to ~35mm)

So, the FE 24/1.4 GM cropped to 28mm yields higher resolution than when using it on the A7R3!

28/24=1.166x
61/1.166/1.166=44.86MP


That could be a game changer.



Jul 16, 2019 at 02:27 PM
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p.11 #4 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


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Jul 16, 2019 at 06:58 PM
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p.11 #5 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


'That could be a game changer.'

Never a truer word, and the real win for high res sensors if they retain overall performance from lower res cameras. It assists - ironically enough, given industry directions - older lenses and in fact any lens with outer frame fall-off. For cross-frame high performers, you get greater extension.

And hi-res sensors are boosters of good lenses. A win all round. Fun fact: 61mp gets you an APS-C crop of 27mp, just below Canon's R sensor (30mp). 135mm gives you an even 200mm at 27mp. Save on lenses! And carry weight, and lens swaps.



Jul 16, 2019 at 08:39 PM
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p.11 #6 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


sandycrane wrote:
I'm sorry, I was referring to the older "classic" and Milvus series. Does Cosina make the Loxia and Batis?


...Maybe.. In my opinion, it doesn't matter who makes the lenses because they are totally different products / lenses.



Jul 17, 2019 at 01:45 AM
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p.11 #7 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


sandycrane wrote:
I'm sorry, I was referring to the older "classic" and Milvus series. Does Cosina make the Loxia and Batis?


The general consensus is that they are not made by Cosina.

Not sure about Loxia. Good chance Tamron makes the Batis.

Cosina makes the Otus, Milvus, Classic, ZM, and CVs




Jul 17, 2019 at 05:56 AM
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p.11 #8 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


HelBen85 wrote:
...Maybe.. In my opinion, it doesn't matter who makes the lenses because they are totally different products / lenses.


I've been shooting Zeiss ZF lenses for over five years and the Voigt 40/1.2 for about a year and I find the family resemblance unmistakable.



Jul 17, 2019 at 06:12 AM
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p.11 #9 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


DaveFP wrote:
Good chance Tamron makes the Batis.

I've seen this confirmed, but I can't find the source at the moment. And Sony has a 12% share in Tamron, so it's a mutually beneficial relationship.



Jul 17, 2019 at 02:48 PM
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p.11 #10 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


Mine came today. It’s actually smaller than I thought. So that’s a bonus


Soooooo this finalized my MF kit

CV 12 petals cut off by ME and my Dremel
CV 21 1.4
CV 50 1.2

Might get back to a 75/85

But I feel I’m done . I don’t want this kit to be a burden

I’ll get to shooting now and dream about a 61 Mpx sensor with this lens



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GMPhotography wrote:
Mine came today. It’s actually smaller than I thought. So that’s a bonus

Soooooo this finalized my MF kit

CV 12 petals cut off by ME and my Dremel
CV 21 1.4
CV 50 1.2

Might get back to a 75/85

But I feel I’m done . I don’t want this kit to be a burden

I’ll get to shooting now and dream about a 61 Mpx sensor with this lens


I'm sure Big Bronco will like this lens!



Jul 17, 2019 at 03:27 PM
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p.11 #12 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


GMPhotography wrote:
Mine came today. It’s actually smaller than I thought. So that’s a bonus

Soooooo this finalized my MF kit

CV 12 petals cut off by ME and my Dremel
CV 21 1.4
CV 50 1.2


Why cut the petals off the 12? And what do you use for a lens cap? (Just about to order this lens)

I have gone with the 21f3.5 as I wanted to keep it small, will keep my Loxia for a bit until I see where I go with AF primes, but I may end up with both cv21s



Jul 17, 2019 at 03:44 PM
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p.11 #13 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


Cut the petals off for more than one filter. I have mine set up to fit a 62mm thread right inside the hood line


Jul 17, 2019 at 04:31 PM
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p.11 #14 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


I will carry the 21 on camera most of the time.


Jul 17, 2019 at 04:32 PM
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p.11 #15 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
I'm sure Big Bronco will like this lens!



May just love it



Jul 17, 2019 at 04:36 PM
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p.11 #16 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


GMPhotography wrote:
Cut the petals off for more than one filter. I have mine set up to fit a 62mm thread right inside the hood line


Sorry for hijacking this thread, you got this set up for the Severn5 system? And have you glued an adapter in?
I found your old thread but it wasn’t clear




Jul 18, 2019 at 03:32 AM
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p.11 #17 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


Not for the seven system but you can. The 62mm thread just squeezes in on the inside of the remaining hood. It’s a tight fit


Jul 18, 2019 at 05:18 AM
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p.11 #18 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


Playing around with the 21 today. (about 0.5m distance)







Jul 19, 2019 at 10:05 PM
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p.11 #19 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


Every time I think I can make do with my old Zeiss 21/2.8 ZF I see a photo like that crazy sunflower! Oh Boy. What a lens!


Jul 21, 2019 at 08:54 AM
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p.11 #20 · Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review


sandycrane wrote:
Every time I think I can make do with my old Zeiss 21/2.8 ZF I see a photo like that crazy sunflower! Oh Boy. What a lens!


Yeah amazing lens but I would never give up my 21 ZE !




Jul 21, 2019 at 09:02 AM
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