Yes I can, but give me a few days as I'll need to set up a distance measure to show the lens stopped at its closest focus point which is well past the .7M line and an object measured to .5M away. As I also shared the 35 1.4 titanium also focuses closer than the 1M of the black copies, which is closer to .88M. FYI, this topic has been discussed over at the Leica forum. Again, whatever Leica did while machining of the stop you can visually see on the lens barrel of the 50 1.4 pre titanium lens how much further the focus ring travels past the 2.5 feet and .7M marked points.
In the picture you posted of the 50 1.4 pre titanium lens had that lenses focus ring been turned hard against the focus stop the 2.5 Feet and .7M marks shown on the body would be further enough past the hard stop and those 2.5f and .7m marks that it also shows on the lens is focussing at .5M or as close to that as I have been able to measure only own.
I'll see what I can set up to show both in a picture of the of the lens at its hard close focus stop and an object in focus with a distance tape from the camera to the object.
I for one would be over the moon if this new LLL 50 1.5 is a direct taken the P. Angenieux S21 50 1.5 lens as that is at the top if the most enjoyable lenses I have ever owned, the "French" pastel-ish colors, the indescribably unique out of focus rendering etc etc.
Please tell us more about this lens and if it is in fact a take off of the S21 Angenieux?
I’m quite thrilled by that one, I really like the rendering. The bokeh will discourage many I guess, but for an ultra busy bokeh I find it not that distracting, the 3D and the sharpness and the gradation in the texture of the oof plane feels very organic to my eye. And the quality of it places it out of the gimmicky zone I believe.
Thanks for the samples. If the previous LLL replicas are any indication, it is likely that they have matched the rendering of the Angenieux S21. If that is the case, this could be another impressive lens release.
On the issue of the quality of LLL lenses. I have heard more than once from owners of LLL SP2 50/2 lenses about the appearance of play in the helicoid after a short period of use.
In this video, one of these lenses was brought to a repairman to eliminate such play. The repairman disassembles the lens and swears at its design and assembly, which uses adhesive joints, but even they do not help to avoid the appearance of play, since the parts have large tolerances.
The use of glue during assembly complicates the disassembly of the lens and such an assembly obviously does not meet the standards of Leica or Zeiss. The video is in Russian, turn on subtitles.
It will be posted once the announcement is published, quite close to the Original
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Listopad44 wrote:
On the issue of the quality of LLL lenses. I have heard more than once from owners of LLL SP2 50/2 lenses about the appearance of play in the helicoid after a short period of use.
In this video, one of these lenses was brought to a repairman to eliminate such play. The repairman disassembles the lens and swears at its design and assembly, which uses adhesive joints, but even they do not help to avoid the appearance of play, since the parts have large tolerances.
The use of glue during assembly complicates the disassembly of the lens and such an assembly obviously does not meet the standards of Leica or Zeiss. The video is in Russian, turn on subtitles....Show more →
We have moved away from using glue during our production and assembly for newer lenses.
Fred Miranda wrote:
"Can you provide any source confirming that the 50mm f/1.4 Summilux pre-ASPH "Titanium" focuses down to 0.5m? Everything I have read, along with images of the lens, indicates a minimum focusing distance of 0.7m, similar to other version 3 pre-ASPH models."
Attached is a picture of my Leica 50mm 1.4 pre-asph titanium with the focus set at the minimum focus stop and you can see on the depth of field markings in white on the base of the lens that the center line located above the 2 is well past the .7M standard minimum focus point where the black aluminum bodies stop at minimum focus. We measured this distance to be .558m. I had said it was .5M as I made a quick measurement but this time I had assistance and was able to accurately make the minimum focus measurement. This lens has not been altered in any way and I have spoken to other owners of this lens and they share the same findings.
The same can be said for the 35mm 1.4 pre-asph German titanium copies as the close focus is approximately .8M not 1m as on the black alloy versions.
LightLensLab wrote:
Small comparison on the prototype 50mm f/1.5 Z21 and the Angenieux S21, shot on GFX100.
I would like to see a photo of a brick wall to assess the distortion and coverage of the GFX frame, as well as a photo of the sky at infinity. Thank you.
UPD: Will installing a filter increase vignetting on a GFX?
tpguswjs wrote:
Should we expect the 35mm APO summicron copy to be released after the 50mm f1.5 z21? I got a glimpse of it at the CP+ and it looked great.
tpguswjs wrote:
Should we expect the 35mm APO summicron copy to be released after the 50mm f1.5 z21? I got a glimpse of it at the CP+ and it looked great.
Stop! The LLL 35/1.4 Lux Double-Aspherical is next.
insideline wrote:
Fred Miranda wrote:
"Can you provide any source confirming that the 50mm f/1.4 Summilux pre-ASPH "Titanium" focuses down to 0.5m? Everything I have read, along with images of the lens, indicates a minimum focusing distance of 0.7m, similar to other version 3 pre-ASPH models."
Attached is a picture of my Leica 50mm 1.4 pre-asph titanium with the focus set at the minimum focus stop and you can see on the depth of field markings in white on the base of the lens that the center line located above the 2 is well past the .7M standard minimum focus point where the black aluminum bodies stop at minimum focus. We measured this distance to be .558m. I had said it was .5M as I made a quick measurement but this time I had assistance and was able to accurately make the minimum focus measurement. This lens has not been altered in any way and I have spoken to other owners of this lens and they share the same findings.
The same can be said for the 35mm 1.4 pre-asph German titanium copies as the close focus is approximately .8M not 1m as on the black alloy versions. ...Show more →
That looks like it would be 0.6m, not 0.5m. The sensor/film plane in the M is hella far back in the body.
highdesertmesa wrote:
That looks like it would be 0.6m, not 0.5m. The sensor/film plane in the M is hella far back in the body.
@insideline, thanks for taking the time to capture and post this picture. Somehow, I missed it earlier.
I agree with @highdesertmesa . Given the distance between 0.8m and 0.7m, and assuming the distance to 0.6m is slightly longer on the scale, I’d say the lens is likely focusing a bit longer than 62mm, possibly near the rangefinder’s limit. It’s pretty similar to how my black version performs. Here’s a quick picture I just took:
