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p.19 #1 · African safari talk...recommendations?


Just some comments on South Africa. Yes, the bush is thicker than Kenya, and we don't have as many wide open plains here, but in the private concessions they do still drive off road and get you very close to the animals. My 500mm f4 is often too long in the private concessions, so when I'm in private reserves I usually have my 500mm with a 1.4x on for birds and a smaller zoom for mammals.
In the national parks where you can't drive off road then you often need more focal length.



Dec 02, 2022 at 01:30 AM
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If anyone here has a nice CIF at full speed I would love to see it as I understand the difficulty in getting one of these shots. It happens so fast and you have no idea which direction it's going to head.


heh heh, here you go. This was my first viewing of an actual hunt and take down involving any big cat. The guide said this was rare to see it happen in so complete a fashion.

All taken with eye-AF with the Sony a1 and 400 2.8 at f4. The final take down where the cheetah trips the wildebeest calf was also captured, but was slightly fuzzy in focus since the camera focused on the stationary animals in front. Amazing performance by the gear in the end and I was very pleasantly surprised. There was another photographer in a different vehicle from the same camp (Kicheche Bush) who could not get anything in focus, was using a Canon 600 f4, don't know what body.

The last photo in this series is the most moving for me. The wildebeest was still alive, but being eaten by the second cheetah from behind (there were two brothers) while this one, who had brought him down had kept him pinned by the neck until now.

It was a long chase, almost 30 seconds. I have written about it on my blog.









Cheetah flying towards and into a herd of wildebeest running towards him







Cheetah making a sharp turn to intercept his target - a yearling







Two frames before the actual takedown







Wildebeest calf begging for a quick death.




Dec 02, 2022 at 01:17 PM
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This thread has turned into a great resource for those going on their first Safari, thanks for your feedback. What I have learned since starting this thread and then going on my first Safari is a few key bits of information are needed to note for those looking for gear suggestions:

1. Are you going to National Parks or Private Conservancies? I saw this being asked quite a bit earlier in this thread before I went and IMO it's the most important question because ideal gear selections can differ greatly between the two experiences. For example, Mort2k said he is so
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I agree completely, different strokes depending upon where you are going and when. Most importantly how crucial are birds for you. If you are into birding at all, then you need maximum reach even in the conservancies. Otherwise, in East Africa, especially in the conservancies, 400 is adequate and sometimes even that is too much.

I did another trip to Kenya in September taking my wife's brother and his wife who are not photographers, but wanted to do a safari. This was their first experience with wildlife anywhere and they were blown away. We did the Mara (triangle), Kicheche Bush, Amboseli and Tsavo West in that order. They saw everything, all the Big5 within the first two days in the mara. Incredible experience for them and in the end for me as well, since I got my first cheetah hunt as posted above.

Since it was family, even though there were five of us in the vehicle, it did not feel crowded at all. However, even with family you cannot get the stability you require for good work - there was constant chatter and of course movement all the time making the vehicle shake so much. Still, it was perhaps the most enjoyable trip of mine because again, it was family.

I do have one question for the folks here. What do most of you do with your pictures in the end? If you are not a professional that is. or even if you are, do you sell prints, make books to sell or simply take them to showcase your portfolio for prospective clients to take on workshops with you?

Fascinating thread, this.

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Dec 02, 2022 at 01:25 PM
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Primus wrote:
If anyone here has a nice CIF at full speed I would love to see it as I understand the difficulty in getting one of these shots. It happens so fast and you have no idea which direction it's going to head.




















































































Dec 02, 2022 at 01:30 PM
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https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/Kenya-2013/i-RHG9PWh/0/7a3e6745/X4/RONN1235-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/Kenya-2013/i-6Qh2zLr/0/6dc6e8c7/X4/RONN1784_3-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/Kenya-2013/i-3pg8qwF/0/6bdfe244/X4/RONN2290_16-9_1-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/Kenya-2013/i-Pk5dMwZ/0/d7fb2e17/X4/RONN2357-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/Kenya-2013/i-fhMdqsJ/0/61e22baf/X4/RONN2368-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/Kenya-2013/i-hxFz5td/0/d90f3eb8/O/RONN2429.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/Kenya-2013/i-HhfrZTQ/0/5c9b15b7/X4/RONN2432_1-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/Kenya-2013/i-hVtKs92/0/1defc412/X4/RONN2454_1-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/Kenya-2013/i-cBfwGB8/0/63126c0d/X4/RONN8669_1-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/South-Africa-2019/i-v9ZwNc7/0/610c5b70/X4/RON15789-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/South-Africa-2022/i-327j9XF/0/4f53101b/X4/Cheetah%20S_1.1.10-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/South-Africa-2022/i-XGRHn2V/0/9849b709/X4/Cheetah%20SA%208.2022_1.50.2-X4.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Wildlife/South-Africa-2022/i-HQ7X4Fx/0/8612c785/X4/Cheetah%20SA%208.2022_1.75.5-X4.jpg




Wow, simply incredible! Must be a lifetime of trips. I've only ever seen a cheetah hunt once in my life. Have several pictures of a leopard chasing (and being chased) but that too was by a great chance. Seen cheetahs many times, also jumping around, but actively hunting and bringing down a prey and then eating it, just the once.

Thanks for sharing.

PS, actually it was ArtSupreme who requested the 'flying cheetah' shots, but I am just as grateful.



Dec 02, 2022 at 01:37 PM
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If anyone here has a nice CIF at full speed I would love to see it as I understand the difficulty in getting one of these shots. It happens so fast and you have no idea which direction it's going to head.

Primus wrote:
heh heh, here you go. This was my first viewing of an actual hunt and take down involving any big cat. The guide said this was rare to see it happen in so complete a fashion.

All taken with eye-AF with the Sony a1 and 400 2.8 at f4. The final take down where the cheetah trips the wildebeest calf was also captured, but was slightly fuzzy in focus since the camera focused on the stationary animals in front. Amazing performance by the gear in the end and I was very pleasantly surprised. There was another photographer in a different
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Great shots Primus, thanks for sharing. Sounds like a very long chase. The one I witnessed was only about 5 seconds and we had no idea where the cheetah would exiting the bush. I got lucky and spotted her as she torpedo'd out of the bush and started flying across the valley to chase the impala. I like your shot where the 3 buddies are watching their friend about to get dusted. Where is your blog, I want to read about it?






Dec 02, 2022 at 03:06 PM
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Great action shots Action99. I like the motion blur. I debated setting my camera up for a pan sequence but I decided not to chance it considering it could have been a once in a lifetime experience. And it probably was. So I'm glad I cranked up the shutter speed and stopped down smaller than I ever have with my 400 2.8



Dec 02, 2022 at 03:10 PM
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artsupreme wrote:
If anyone here has a nice CIF at full speed I would love to see it as I understand the difficulty in getting one of these shots. It happens so fast and you have no idea which direction it's going to head.

Great shots Primus, thanks for sharing. Sounds like a very long chase. The one I witnessed was only about 5 seconds and we had no idea where the cheetah would exiting the bush. I got lucky and spotted her as she torpedo'd out of the bush and started flying across the valley to chase the impala. I like
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Thanks.

I actually have several shots of the kind that were posted by Action99, but they do not show the whole scene, just the animal - leopard, cheetah or lion running. This was a particularly unique experience, from start to finish. we spotted the two cheetahs in the bush originally and for some reason our guide said they are going to hunt. I did not believe him because they were just lying about, but in the end it did happen.

The lead cheetah actually walked past the herd and then turned around and ran towards them, they started running towards him, have never seen or heard of this. He then crossed through their middle and focused on this young calf at the very end. It was gruesome in the kill, because while one was eating him while alive, the other had him pinned down by the neck. We also saw the rare spectacle of them continuing to feed even after two hyenas arrived on the scene, at one point one cheetah and two hyenas were digging into the carcass together. Our guide had never seen that either.

I am working on a new website, having some trouble setting it up as I am not a tech guy. The blog is up though and I have created several posts. Domain is being transferred as I type this. Hopefully by next week it should be all ready, but for the portfolio that I am still working on putting up. I am creating it all on my own which in itself is quite a thrill.

I will post a link here as soon as it is up.

Which is why I was asking what people do with their photos. I used to simply display them on my old website, but I am now into writing a photo blog and using that to showcase my work as well. Having retired I am also toying with the idea of selling some prints, but not sure at this point.

It is a work in progress.




Dec 02, 2022 at 08:05 PM
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My wife and I have been doing a self-drive through Namibia and northern Botswana (Chobe). We have spent much time on the coast, and went north through Etosha and the Caprivi Strip (the strip of land the Germans retained between Angola and Botswana so a route to the Atlantic via the Zambezi River might be possible...except Victoria Falls got in the way). Vehicle is a 4x4 Toyota and is about $75/day with full insurance.

Anyway, for those with more time than money, renting a 4x4 and driving to national parks, staying in campsites (about $40/night) or nice hotels in/near parks (about $125/night) might be a viable/interesting option for many here who want to experience southern Africa - the way Africans experience it.

We are birders so the attached represent some of what we've found ourselves since early November. (We've done South Africa twice in the last year, and this was our first trip to Namibia/Botswana. It is a bit less developed but nothing we could not deal with...and we are in our early 60s. Lots of people do these drives..."try it, you'll like it."). Roads in both countries are fine...

Photos with A1 and Canon R5. Lenses: Sony 200-600 and Canon 100-500

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Carmine Bee-eater at nest colony on the Zambezi River near Shamvura Lodge







Greater Flamingos at Walvis Bay Namibia in early November







African Jacana in Chobe National Park in late November







Schalow's Touraco at Namwi in eastern Namibia (Caprivi Strip)







Pearl Spotted Owlet in Chobe National Park late November




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I went on one African Photo Safari/Tour almost 6 years ago. It was before there were good options for long lenses for mirrorless and I was shooting mostly Sony A7R at the time but due to lack of long lens choice I got two Nikon DSLRs and shot mostly with a 200-500 and 70-200 for the most of the trip which was to Tanzania and Kenya. I brought a 300 F2.8 but found that too constraining. If I needed something wider I would use my iPhone or a Sony RX1 with a built in 35mm lens. If I was going in the current timeframe I would go with 2 Canon R bodies and the 100-500 and 70-200.

I have read through this thread and have enjoyed many of the photos, anecdotes and suggestions making me think about planning another trip to Africa in the upcoming years. One thing I don't see mentioned must is helping out the local economy.

We spend literally thousand of dollars buying gear and paying for flights, hotels and such but if you can try to support the local tribes and people by buying some goods from them or supporting their schools and/or infrastructure while there. Helping the local economy should be an important part of the process.

I don't mean to be preachy but just something I often think about and was reminded about after seeing the 60 minutes segment this weekend about Mozambique’s Gorongosa National Park.

Here are some of my photos even though they weren't taken with Canon.
































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haven't read this thread in a week or so; lovely to see all those images!

To get back to one question: I use my images at this point mostly for creating a bit of a community/followers for my social accounts, and that should translate to more interest in new photo tours me and my co-host are planning for '24 and beyond (fyi I'm a working pro here in the Netherlands, shooting mainly events, commercial, portraits, etc. - the wildllife is just a hobby and the tours we're hosting sort of is too; meaning our expenses are paid but we don't actually make money). Next trip up is Feb. to the Mara in Kenya, then october to Kalahari in SA (a private big-5 reserve). We're considering Botswana and Zambia for '24.



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One from my trip this past summer to Namibia/Botswana....this is one of my favorites from the trip, it is now my screen background image.







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treacle wrote:
I went on one African Photo Safari/Tour almost 6 years ago. It was before there were good options for long lenses for mirrorless and I was shooting mostly Sony A7R at the time but due to lack of long lens choice I got two Nikon DSLRs and shot mostly with a 200-500 and 70-200 for the most of the trip which was to Tanzania and Kenya. I brought a 300 F2.8 but found that too constraining. If I needed something wider I would use my iPhone or a Sony RX1 with a built in 35mm lens. If I was going
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Nice pictures. Thanks for sharing.

I agree, we do spend thousands of dollars on these trips. One of the things I've been doing is donating to orgs like Sheldrick Trust, Big Life Foundation (Nick Brandt's initiative) and buying lots of local stuff at camps and their associated Maasai outlets. We are also overly generous with our tips to the drivers and guides, the camp staff, far more than is recommended by our tour operators. At the end of the day, without organized charities, it is hard to know who to support and who is really going to put your money to good use. As anywhere else, there are people who may take money from you and use it for their own purposes.

Africa as a continent has always been exploited by those who came ostensibly to settle and those who came to plunder. Much like the rest of the 'third world'.

Will get off my own soap box now.




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evertdoorn wrote:
haven't read this thread in a week or so; lovely to see all those images!

To get back to one question: I use my images at this point mostly for creating a bit of a community/followers for my social accounts, and that should translate to more interest in new photo tours me and my co-host are planning for '24 and beyond (fyi I'm a working pro here in the Netherlands, shooting mainly events, commercial, portraits, etc. - the wildllife is just a hobby and the tours we're hosting sort of is too; meaning our expenses are paid but we don't
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Thanks, that is just what I was curious about. Many people I meet on safaris and other workshops are amateurs like me but do nothing with their photos, just let them sit on the cards, rarely looking at them later. And some of them carry the most expensive camera gear money can buy.



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rdcny wrote:
My wife and I have been doing a self-drive through Namibia and northern Botswana (Chobe). We have spent much time on the coast, and went north through Etosha and the Caprivi Strip (the strip of land the Germans retained between Angola and Botswana so a route to the Atlantic via the Zambezi River might be possible...except Victoria Falls got in the way). Vehicle is a 4x4 Toyota and is about $75/day with full insurance.

Anyway, for those with more time than money, renting a 4x4 and driving to national parks, staying in campsites (about $40/night) or nice hotels in/near parks (about
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Fascinating story and photos. I don't think I would have the courage to do this as my wife does not like to drive and I have my own medical problems to deal with. I think the greatest fear is of the unknown - getting stuck somewhere in the wild without local support easily available. But I agree, it would be a real adventure. Plus you can then afford to go anywhere and you are absolutely on your own without other people telling you where to position the vehicle.




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Primus wrote:
Thanks, that is just what I was curious about. Many people I meet on safaris and other workshops are amateurs like me but do nothing with their photos, just let them sit on the cards, rarely looking at them later. And some of them carry the most expensive camera gear money can buy.


If you/they are anything like me, the whole process of safari is about as fulfilling as the final images. The travel, the new locations, meeting the staff/guides, tracking the animals and spending time with them, etc. is all such a great experience. Having my next trip to Africa in my calendar, even if it's a year away, means a lot to me. I'll never get a return on investment with regards to the gear, but the joy it all provides is more than worth the money



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VKM2F wrote:
If you/they are anything like me, the whole process of safari is about as fulfilling as the final images. The travel, the new locations, meeting the staff/guides, tracking the animals and spending time with them, etc. is all such a great experience. Having my next trip to Africa in my calendar, even if it's a year away, means a lot to me. I'll never get a return on investment with regards to the gear, but the joy it all provides is more than worth the money


Yeah, for all these years just being there was enough for me, the excitement and thrill of seeing the animals in their natural habitat in that early morning light is unbeatable.

Lately though, since I have retired from work, I find spending more time with my pictures, making a website and processing my work in different ways is also very satisfying.




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4 weeks!?!? So jealous. I'm sure the Z9/400 TC combo will be amazing! Canon needs to follow suit.

Yes, the R3 would have yielded more keepers but I don't think I missed much with the R5 considering most of the movement I was shooting was fairly easy to track. R5 definiitely misses occasionally with the shallow DOF but it does a great job overall.



Well I got back last night as I was gone for 5 weeks due to United canceling my flight back to the States twice.

The Z 400mm with the built in TC was absolutely the right lens for me to bring as it performed beautifully. As much as I loved my RF 400mm I don't regret making the jump to Nikon for the built in TC.

Also I had a wonderful cheetah sighting as my girlfriend and I followed her for close to an hour and a half. It was just the 2 of us. We watched her hunt a group of impala and man-o-man could she move. Unfortunately she has an injured left eye. If you look at the photos you will see that it's severely swollen and her pupil is completed dilated like she has a cataract. Have no doubt it's effecting her hunting.
























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Primus wrote:
Thanks, that is just what I was curious about. Many people I meet on safaris and other workshops are amateurs like me but do nothing with their photos, just let them sit on the cards, rarely looking at them later. And some of them carry the most expensive camera gear money can buy.


I put a lot of my stuff on the walls in my home. I have 13x19 photos all over the LR, DR, Kit. I also post my stuff in my Flickr pages. Flickr.com/apkef/albums. I just finished a series I call faces of Africa and now have faces on the walls. https://www.flickr.com/photos/apkef/albums/72177720303769152
I have actually been going back and redoing some of my 2019 Safari with the newer software no available. Went 2019, 2021, and going back in 2023. Here's a face for you.

Springbok Face-24 by Alan Kefauver, on Flickr




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One more.

Cheetah Face-30 by Alan Kefauver, on Flickr



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