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p.58 #1 · African safari talk...recommendations?


berimbolo wrote:
Air France/KLM will occasionally weigh bags, but I've never personally had it happen. If you are concerned about weight, you can put batteries, grips, and chargers in a vest or jacket that you carry on. That should reduce weight quite a bit.


I had KLM weigh my carry on bag one time and I had to gate check a 400mm f2.8 or 600mm f/4 lens (I can't remember which one). Talk about a nervous flight.




May 22, 2024 at 07:49 AM
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It's really similar to Africa where the distance of the tiger to you can vary a lot. A 600 would work well for one body and I recommend a 2nd body with a 100-500 or 100-300. Also I would bring a 1.4x that you could add to the 600 at times.

Here are the usage for my lenses:
800mm (400+2x) - 40% of photos
560mm (400+1.4) - 16%
400mm - 10%
100-300 - 33%



Thanks, this is valuable info.
1. You're shooting at much longer focal lengths that I would have guessed.
2. It sounds like my standard wildlife setup will suffice: 16-35mm, 100-400mm, 600mm, 3 bodies & teleconverters.




May 22, 2024 at 07:55 AM
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p.58 #3 · African safari talk...recommendations?


VKM2F wrote:
I was in Ranthambore in April. I took the RF600 F/4 as well as the RF100-300F/2.8. I had the 1.4x on the 100-300 for most of the time though I did have it on the 600mm a bit as well. You can't leave the roads in the park so there were times when I needed all the reach I could get. I'll post a couple of examples:

1) 100-300 with the 1.4x (392mm @ f/5.6)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53671605805_cbf8e5cb9b_h.jpg

2) 600mm with the 1.4 x (840mm @ f/5.6)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53671370623_d8ddef7888_h.jpg


Which lodge/operator did you stay with?



May 22, 2024 at 04:01 PM
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berimbolo wrote:
Which lodge/operator did you stay with?


I booked through Wild World India. My contact there, Abhishek, was great. Booked the best zones well in advance and arranged for me an experienced guide/driver. Also was kind enough to tour me around Delhi.

I stayed at the Ranthambore Kothi. It's a mid-tier lodge, nothing special. Proximity to the park was great, only a 4 or 5 minute drive to the gate. Otherwise it's a pretty forgettable place.



May 22, 2024 at 05:10 PM
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VKM2F wrote:
I booked through Wild World India. My contact there, Abhishek, was great. Booked the best zones well in advance and arranged for me an experienced guide/driver. Also was kind enough to tour me around Delhi.

I stayed at the Ranthambore Kothi. It's a mid-tier lodge, nothing special. Proximity to the park was great, only a 4 or 5 minute drive to the gate. Otherwise it's a pretty forgettable place.


Thank you!



May 22, 2024 at 05:59 PM
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I just returned from the Masai Mara in Kenya yesterday. After reading this entire thread, I was happy with my Sony A7RV with 100-400 and 1.4xTC for most of my animal shots. I also had an A9ii with 28-200 Tamron for wider shots.

I left for Kenya on May 13 and returned May 27. We did not experience any rain but man is it green and lush. Farther north at Lewa, the grass is pretty tall making it tricky to see the rhinos. Farther south at Samburu the foliage can be taller than our vehicles. In the Masai Mara, it's very green with tallish grass. The ground is very muddy and swampy making it harder to get around. We did cross the Talek river at Talek where all the small camps are. The river is roaring but not flooded. Lots of damage. Food aid is still being distributed. When we crossed the river, the bridge was just covered by flowing water. When we came back, it was much deeper and flowing even harder. Interesting crossing a bridge underwater.

We stayed at Lewa Safari camp, Sarara House and Governor's Camp Masai Mara. Generally our small group of 15 were the only guests. This meant that we rarely was any other vehicles during our game drives. In the Masai Mara we saw incredible lion, hyena feeding frenzies, numerous cheetahs, including a female with 4 8 month old cubs feeding on a kill until a hyena stole it.

All in all, an amazing trip. We almost cancelled because of the floods but everywhere we went they were happy to have us. Visitors have been few and far between this year and the local economies really depend on visitors.

I ended up sitting higher up at the back of our vehicles so I could see over the grass. You just have to choose your shots to avoid shooting downwards too much. When the lions and cheetahs walked by our vehicles, I just watched while others shot video with their phones.

We flew Yellow Wings and Tropic Air all over. 4 small flights starting and ending in Nairobi. Nobody weighed anything anywhere. Of course the planes weren't full. Still, it's quite freeing to travel with only 33 lbs allowance, including 15 lbs of cameras and binoculars.

Just my 2 cents.

test1 by Joe Wang, on Flickr

Untitled by Joe Wang, on Flickr



May 28, 2024 at 10:03 AM
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p.58 #7 · African safari talk...recommendations?


Joe19 wrote:
I just returned from the Masai Mara in Kenya yesterday. After reading this entire thread, I was happy with my Sony A7RV with 100-400 and 1.4xTC for most of my animal shots. I also had an A9ii with 28-200 Tamron for wider shots.

I left for Kenya on May 13 and returned May 27. We did not experience any rain but man is it green and lush. Farther north at Lewa, the grass is pretty tall making it tricky to see the rhinos. Farther south at Samburu the foliage can be taller than our vehicles. In the Masai Mara, it's very
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Nice update Joe. Glad to hear you were able to make your way around the Mara as I'm hearing a lot of areas are unaccessible due to the mud and heavy ponding. Also, very good news that you did not get any rain for your two week stay as this is the wettest time of the year. Hopefully the rain has stopped early this year and things start drying out.

Were you able to get any good Rhino sightings up North or was it just a lot of their backs showing above the grass? Even in shorter grass they are very stubborn with lifting their heads, so hopefully you had some luck up there.

Nice cheetah shot, is that a termite mound they are sitting on that's hidden by the grass? Crazy how green it is, almost looks like a tropical location.

Any Leopards in the Mara?



May 28, 2024 at 11:09 AM
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Thanks for the report, I leave next week. Also going to the Mara and Lewa, though we won't be in the Mara for another week and a half or so. Was this your first visit to Lewa? I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences. I hope to get some of the Northern 5 I believe they call them, the Grevys Zebra and Reticulated Giraffe. A Generuk would be awesome as well!


May 28, 2024 at 11:12 PM
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There were a couple of times in the Masai Mara where we were blocked by roaring water. Mostly a bit swampy. Up north there was no flooding and it's not very wet right now.

This was my first time to Lewa. We might have been the only visitors at the time. When we were on a slight rise, we could see for miles. No other vehicles ever. We visited the Conservancy Operations center and learned about how they keep an eye on each and every rhino, every day, on foot. Amazing dedication.

Tall grass only blocked the baby rhinos. We saw one only 3 days old, not really photographable in the grass but still a thrilling sighting.

I never saw a generuk but others did in Samburu.

A7505688-Edit_r by Joe Wang, on Flickr

Lots of Grevys Zebra in Lewa
A7506178-Edit_r by Joe Wang, on Flickr

Plenty of Reticulated Giraffe as well
A7506011-Edit_r by Joe Wang, on Flickr

I've been to Tanzania in Sep 2017. Tons of animals, no grass but LOTS of other vehicles. This was a more intimate experience and we loved it.





May 28, 2024 at 11:49 PM
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There were a couple of times in the Masai Mara where we were blocked by roaring water. Mostly a bit swampy. Up north there was no flooding and it's not very wet right now.

This was my first time to Lewa. We might have been the only visitors at the time. When we were on a slight rise, we could see for miles. No other vehicles ever. We visited the Conservancy Operations center and learned about how they keep an eye on each and every rhino, every day, on foot. Amazing dedication.

Tall grass only blocked the baby rhinos. We saw one
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I was expecting to see grass twice that high, that's not bad at all. I would say that's the typical length up there. Lewa reminds me of Southern California a lot.

Cduff, looks like you are dialed in for Lewa. You'll see everything you are hoping for but what you should really pray for are some wild dogs or a striped hyena. If you happen to see both during a short stay, you've won the jackpot.



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What do you guys usually do for tipping, especially for drivers/guides? I've read $10/day is usual, is that fair? Do you tip daily, or at the end of your stay? And do you tip in USD or Kenyan Schillings? I just want to make sur eI take enough cash.


May 30, 2024 at 11:38 AM
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Cduff406 wrote:
What do you guys usually do for tipping, especially for drivers/guides? I've read $10/day is usual, is that fair? Do you tip daily, or at the end of your stay? And do you tip in USD or Kenyan Schillings? I just want to make sur eI take enough cash.


10-15/day for drivers/guides. Another 10/day for staff.

For staff, I tipped per day because it changed daily. For my driver/guide, he said to tip at the end of the trip. I also tipped the Masai guards who escorted us from tents to vehicles. I used both USD and Schillings.



May 30, 2024 at 11:46 AM
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artsupreme wrote:
Some of this depends on your shooting preferences based on primes vs zooms. I'm a prime shooter, so I get the desire to bring the 135, but I don't think you really need it. I have all these same lenses to choose from and the 135 is one of my favorite lenses of all time but I did not bring it. I think you will be more than fine with the A1/300 w/TC's + A1/70-200 for 90% of your shooting. I would definitely not bother bringing the 24-70 unless that's your favorite go to lens or something. I've lugged mine
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I'm not familiar with the frame rates you will get with the Sigma 500, so what would it actually be? I'm sure it will be fast enough to cover most of the movement. The animals are moving, but not always super fast. Most of the time they are standing around and you are just waiting/hoping for them to either lift their heads or look your way. If you spot a cheetah and cubs on a mound you'll learn it's almost a given that they'll never all look at directly your camera (they are always scanning). Lazy lions lay around and
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1bwana1 wrote:
My take is that less is better. Just like in an image with less distraction is better. I honestly would add the 200-600 and drop the 300 (as much as I love it), the 135, and the 17-28.

Enjoy the adventure, be there in the moment. Get great pictures, but don't make the trip only about images and being bogged down with gear.



I know that everyone provided input for me quite a while ago and that I am just now responding to it. I have been spending a lot of time considering all of these possibilities as well as the great advice.

So, after hearing from all of your experience, I am not worried about the frame rate. At this point, I have not ordered any third party lenses so it is not an issue anyway.

I did decide to drop the 135mm and may well drop the 24-70 as well. My Tamron 17-28 is small and light, so that can be used if a wide angle is needed.

I have added a third body - picked up an A9III (man - the AF is impressive!). I still plan to take the 300 with both teleconverters, and may take the 200-600 as well. Not a lightweight lens, but I am paranoid about breaking my 300 and then not having a long telephoto. This comes from experience in which I dropped my camera and 500mm on the first day at Yellowstone some years ago. In that case, the lens was ok, but the lens mount on the cameras was shot - it was certainly a wake-up call for bringing backup gear.

Love the advice about being in the moment! And I certainly plan to do that. The experience will mean as much as the photos. My husband just purchased two beautiful books for me, "Remembering Lions" and "Remembering Leopards." Just looking at the images brings such strong emotion.

Not related to photography, but do the camps usually have kettles in the rooms/tents? I am not one to wake up and get out the door in a matter of minutes. So, I hope to make some coffee and spend some quiet time before heading out each morning.

I am incredibly grateful to those of you who have responded to my messages here and provided your thoughts and advice. While I am often slow to respond, I really do appreciate it.



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Cduff406 wrote:
Thanks for the report, I leave next week. Also going to the Mara and Lewa, though we won't be in the Mara for another week and a half or so. Was this your first visit to Lewa? I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences. I hope to get some of the Northern 5 I believe they call them, the Grevys Zebra and Reticulated Giraffe. A Generuk would be awesome as well!


Cduff,


Here are images fresh off the press from today in both Lewa and Amboseli. Excuse the low quality phone shots and screen grabs from videos my friends sent me, but this gives you an idea of what both areas look like as we speak. My friend in the Mara is not working today but he said it's muddy for sure and they are still getting rain. I'll try to get some photos of the Mara tomorrow. Being that these are phone photos, you can see how close you get to the animals.

The top 4 of the elephants and black rhinos are Lewa, and the bottom two of the buffalos and Elephants are Amboseli. Green, green, green..


































May 30, 2024 at 12:32 PM
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I know that everyone provided input for me quite a while ago and that I am just now responding to it. I have been spending a lot of time considering all of these possibilities as well as the great advice.

So, after hearing from all of your experience, I am not worried about the frame rate. At this point, I have not ordered any third party lenses so it is not an issue anyway.

I did decide to drop the 135mm and may well drop the 24-70 as well. My Tamron 17-28 is small and light, so that can be used
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IMO you are as dialed in as you can be with a couple A1's, A9III, 70-200, 300, 200-600, and your 17-28. You will rarely have to change lenses other than putting the wide angle on occasionally. If you have a fast lightweight 35mm option like the Canon Rf 38 1.8 I would bring that for dinner shots at camp and also use it while you are traveling between camps on the airstrips, small planes, etc.

As for coffee makers in rooms, some of the camps do have them. But you will be happy to learn that you actually order your tea/coffee and morning snack from the staff at dinner time, and they will bring it to your tent at 5am or whatever time you want it delivered/served. No need to make it yourself.



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Abuttolph wrote:
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I know that everyone provided input for me quite a while ago and that I am just now responding to it. I have been spending a lot of time considering all of these possibilities as well as the great advice.

So, after hearing from all of your experience, I am not worried about the frame rate. At this point, I have not ordered any third party lenses so it is not an issue anyway.

I did decide to drop the 135mm and may well drop the 24-70 as well. My Tamron 17-28 is small and light, so that can be used
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You have a solid setup. However I personally wouldn't bring the 200-600mm--just keep one of your A1 bodies as a backup.

Depending on the camp, they typically have kettles - might have to ask them for one. If they don't have one for you to use then you should be able make arrangements to have a thermos of hot water brought to you an hour or so before you head out in the morning. Or as artsupreme mentioned they will bring you coffee or tea already prepared.



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Has anyone done both Jim Corbett and Ranthambore in India? I'm trying to decide between the two.

What I gather is that Ranthambore has higher chances of a tiger spotting, but Jim Corbett has elephants and a more pleasing landscape. Does that track?



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berimbolo wrote:
Has anyone done both Jim Corbett and Ranthambore in India? I'm trying to decide between the two.

What I gather is that Ranthambore has higher chances of a tiger spotting, but Jim Corbett has elephants and a more pleasing landscape. Does that track?


I'm really interested in this as well but I think we really need to dedicate another thread just for India excursions like this highly successful Africa one.



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I'm really interested in this as well but I think we really need to dedicate another thread just for India excursions like this highly successful Africa one.


Yeah. Perhaps a generic thread for safaris outside of Africa? Or maybe wildlife destinations more generally?



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berimbolo wrote:
Yeah. Perhaps a generic thread for safaris outside of Africa? Or maybe wildlife destinations more generally?


I agree you should start a new thread for safaris in India. In order for a thread to be effective and resourceful it needs to be specific or it will become a mush pot of random information. This thread has remained on topic and has a ton of great information in it so let's keep this one going specifically for Africa.

The only bummer is not being able to only cross post to three forums, so just like this thread you'll have to pick two of the big three gear forums to start the new India thread.



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