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I honestly think that the photographic industry is becoming deadly boring, with cameras that are almost identical in specifications and generally quite ugly.

I have the feeling that a monochrome xpro 4 (or a Q3 under 4,000 euros with a 35 or 50mm fixed focal length) would be much more exciting than the umpteenth revision of models that always look the same.

Does an improved autofocus make better studio sessions by itself? I did one photo shoot in Wetzlar during the presentation of the new Leica M6 with an M-A: nobody was scared to death and the model's eye was always in focus.



Oct 27, 2022 at 05:08 PM
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p.13 #2 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


RoamingScott wrote:
If 8k is important to you whenever you upgrade, make sure to watch some reviews of it. Jordan at DPTV shows that the handheld 8k/24 looks like you're shooting through a wobbling bowl of Jello.

https://youtu.be/dQTkG6zP2go?t=600


it looks fine outside of the walking segment, and that's way too overemphasized on youtube.

consider the review as a mini film, hardly any of the video requires super stable stabilization. That's the cold hard truth about video production.



Oct 27, 2022 at 05:12 PM
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p.13 #3 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


fededuran wrote:
I honestly think that the photographic industry is becoming deadly boring, with cameras that are almost identical in specifications and generally quite ugly.

I have the feeling that a monochrome xpro 4 (or a Q3 under 4,000 euros with a 35 or 50mm fixed focal length) would be much more exciting than the umpteenth revision of models that always look the same.

Does an improved autofocus make better studio sessions by itself? I did one photo shoot in Wetzlar during the presentation of the new Leica M6 with an M-A: nobody was scared to death and the model's eye was always in
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How do we get Sony, Canon, and Nikon to put half as much TLC into their body designs/aesthetics as Hasselblad?

Can we make cameras pretty again?



Oct 27, 2022 at 05:28 PM
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p.13 #4 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


fededuran wrote:
I honestly think that the photographic industry is becoming deadly boring, with cameras that are almost identical in specifications and generally quite ugly.

I have the feeling that a monochrome xpro 4 (or a Q3 under 4,000 euros with a 35 or 50mm fixed focal length) would be much more exciting than the umpteenth revision of models that always look the same.

Does an improved autofocus make better studio sessions by itself? I did one photo shoot in Wetzlar during the presentation of the new Leica M6 with an M-A: nobody was scared to death and the model's eye was always in
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Exactly what pizzazz do you want and how much better will your photos be with this pizzazz?



Oct 27, 2022 at 06:25 PM
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RomanMF wrote:
How do we get Sony, Canon, and Nikon to put half as much TLC into their body designs/aesthetics as Hasselblad?

Can we make cameras pretty again?


I believe it was Pentax that offered a camera in baby power blue and hot pink. Is that pretty enough for you?



Oct 27, 2022 at 06:27 PM
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p.13 #6 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


RoamingScott wrote:
It's possible Sony throws more computational/software processing at the files in camera with the new chips, at least for JPEG, that might make the sensor appear improved over the the Riv, but so far it sounds like the sensor itself is the exact same.

I agree about the burst rate and readout speed...simply laughable for the price point.

The more I ponder this camera, the more confused I am.

If all you really need is a landscape/portrait camera, any camera since the Rii will work, with advantage to the Rii/Riii in IQ.

The Riii is capable enough to be the things that the Rv
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I agree 100% with this. I see no reason to upgrade from RIII to RV with that price tag. It's pretty much priced like an used A1 here, which seems like a way bigger upgrade over my RIII than the new RV. Heck, even the 2 years old or so Canon R5 seems better in many things than the RV, which is kinda shocking for me(not that i would switch to Canon, just an observation).

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Oct 27, 2022 at 06:41 PM
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p.13 #7 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


chez wrote:
I believe it was Pentax that offered a camera in baby power blue and hot pink. Is that pretty enough for you?


What exactly is the point of this reply?


Looking forward to more in-depth reviews of this camera. The YouTube guys are cool but a lot of that is "access journalism." I don't really look to many of those individuals as stellar craftsman either, so the coverage doesn't do a lot for me either way. I loved reading Albert's rundown. He could make stellar images with a pinhole camera, but it was still nice to read his thoughts.



Oct 27, 2022 at 07:07 PM
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p.13 #8 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


RomanMF wrote:
What exactly is the point of this reply?


Looking forward to more in-depth reviews of this camera. The YouTube guys are cool but a lot of that is "access journalism." I don't really look to many of those individuals as stellar craftsman either, so the coverage doesn't do a lot for me either way. I loved reading Albert's rundown. He could make stellar images with a pinhole camera, but it was still nice to read his thoughts.


I just thought you would appreciate some “pretty” looking cameras.



Oct 27, 2022 at 07:19 PM
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p.13 #9 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


I like a lot of things about the A7RV over my A7RIV but these are such mature products now that I’m thinking the money would be better spent elsewhere (grab a few stocks at current prices?). There’s no must-have, love-to-have-it for me in the A7RV.

Instead, I satiated my GAS today by buying a like new condition used A7C at my local camera shop at a steal of a price. I’ve been curious about it and I could sell this in a few months and consider it a free or pretty cheap rental, or temporary diversion from the A7RV until they hit the secondary market and cheapen up.



Oct 27, 2022 at 07:23 PM
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p.13 #10 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


Still no reason to upgrade my 7r2. wild how far ahead of its time that camera was. would just pick up the 7iv if i wanted AF upgrade.


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p.13 #11 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


summmers wrote:
Still no reason to upgrade my 7r2. wild how far ahead of its time that camera was. would just pick up the 7iv if i wanted AF upgrade.


Still use my A7R2 for landscapes. Would love to have 61mpix, but I’m getting by with 42.



Oct 27, 2022 at 07:30 PM
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p.13 #12 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


RoamingScott wrote:
I enjoyed Gerald showing that the A7Rv thought his dog's butthole was an eye, as well as thinking a grasshopper was a train.

This tech needs some more baking! Marketing is gonna market, but there's only so much a sensor with a dog slow readout can do.


Would it have been better if the camera through an error message? "There is no train in this shot. Try again."



Oct 27, 2022 at 07:37 PM
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p.13 #13 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)



Looks like a really nice evolutionary upgrade and the rear screen looks very interesting. The body got a bit bigger which I know people have been asking for. I don't track the rumors much but I was expecting an around ~90mp FF sensor coming in the a7R series but maybe that would have made it slower than they wanted with fps, sensor readout and possibly other areas.

Did they really not have Bulb mode until now or am I misinterpreting that feature?



Oct 27, 2022 at 07:47 PM
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p.13 #14 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


The point is that cameras still aren’t smarter than the apes behind them, no matter how bad Sony wants you to think otherwise.

freaklikeme wrote:
Would it have been better if the camera through an error message? "There is no train in this shot. Try again."




Oct 27, 2022 at 07:50 PM
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p.13 #15 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


fededuran wrote:
I honestly think that the photographic industry is becoming deadly boring, with cameras that are almost identical in specifications and generally quite ugly.



There are no boring cameras, only boring photographers.



Oct 27, 2022 at 07:54 PM
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p.13 #16 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


You know, if you're a monkey, you don't own the rights to the photos you take. I would assume the same applies to apes.

After reading this thread for a while, I had the Benny Hill theme song popped in my head, and I can't get rid of it.

RoamingScott wrote:
The point is that cameras still aren’t smarter than the apes behind them, no matter how bad Sony wants you to think otherwise.






Oct 27, 2022 at 07:57 PM
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p.13 #17 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


Jesse Evans wrote:
The DPreview studio scene is a lot more meaningful IMHO than any of the DR scores published by either Photons to Photos or DXOMark.


In what way? DPR results are heavily dependent on their JPEG settings and/or the (lack of) their post-processing skills.

At least the DxO and P2P results are (mostly) objective measurements.



Oct 27, 2022 at 08:04 PM
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p.13 #18 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


summmers wrote:
Still no reason to upgrade my 7r2.

Me too. Keeping my Leica M3 - waiting to see what VI will have to offer.



Oct 27, 2022 at 08:33 PM
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p.13 #19 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


lensfan wrote:
Me too. Keeping my Leica M3 - waiting to see what VI will have to offer.


At least my leica m2 outpaced inflation even if it does have that silly frame counter



Oct 27, 2022 at 08:38 PM
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p.13 #20 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)


Any information about aperture issues with CVs/Loxias?


Oct 27, 2022 at 08:56 PM
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