peter.d.huang wrote:
Great view!
I have Nokton 75mm f1.5, it's such a great lens. I guess for those who already have Nokton, there's no need to get the Thypoch.
They are quite similar in size, rendering, and performance, with just a few distinctions. If you already own one, there may not be a strong reason to replace it with the other.
Thank you for the extensive testing, Fred!! Great comparison as usual with a good quality of suspects to pit the lens against. The result is close enough that the main comparison will be handling and price imo. I'll need to find both in-store someday, but that'll be a difficult task. I was hoping it would behave more like a sharper, higher contrast Lux 1.4 but I think that magic hasn't been found yet. Or just a bit more pop in general.
Out of curiosity: has anyone pitted this lens against the CV 75mm F1.9? That lens has a bit more pop I think, and it's one of the other 75's I'm considering.
If you're talking about the Simera 75 and the Voigtlander 75mm Nokton, the overall image rendering is quite similar. There are subtle differences, but like you said, it really comes down to which handling experience you prefer and whether features like close focusing, de-clicked aperture, and other Simera-specific traits matter to you. The CV 75/1.9 Ultron is in a different category. It offers less background blur but still delivers excellent image quality. Although I didn't compare them directly but you can have an idea of how it performs and renders here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1801660/
Despite initial misgivings, it's a better lens, I believe, than the (very good) Simera 50/1.4, in that when you get it right the subject jumps off the screen at you. I've not seen this before, the lens is very good at capturing the subject's personality. My working theory is that DZOFilm injected a more cinematic presentation to the 75mm, which may signal a continuing drift away from the early Leica M sourced 'copies' - not that I think they are even similar, in part thanks to the aperture construction, but much more besides.
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she's from somewhere else - she saw me see her, then put on her human face.
@nehemiahphoto You previously asked if the lens has much glow. It's not the 75 Lux, to be sure. There's some subtle glow to it, however, enough that it isn't clinical.
The copy I got was just a tiny bit miscalibrated. The catch is that this lens has such a shallow depth of field that even a tiny bit makes a big difference. So I followed Fred's previous instructions on calibrating the Simera 50/1.4. It only needed a 0.01mm shim added to it.
As it turns out, there was probably no 0.01 shim because 0.01 is gossamer thin and difficult to work with. If anyone needs to do this (to cut your own shim out of zinc foil), it might be better to replace one of the existing shims with your new thicker one? Mine came with 0.10, 0.03, and 0.02 shims, so I should've replaced the 0.02 shim with a 0.03 of my own making. No matter, I got it fixed now. A little annoying, but I would say it was worth the effort.
That sometimes jarring and sometimes smooth bokeh is very Summilux. You either love it or hate it. I go back and forth between love and hate it. It can sometimes work out well but more often than not it distracts more than it helps.
Thanks for tagging. I directly compared a 75 Lux and CV 75/1.5, and given this lens clones the CV 75 rendering, I lost interest. Solid option though if you like a very modern controlled draw.
So all this taken into account, what is your favourite 75mm lens on the Sony? I tried the CV 75/1.5 in e-mount and the ergonomics were horrendous. I'm happy to adapt and/or buy used, but I'd love your thoughts.
dylanrichards wrote:
So all this taken into account, what is your favourite 75mm lens on the Sony? I tried the CV 75/1.5 in e-mount and the ergonomics were horrendous. I'm happy to adapt and/or buy used, but I'd love your thoughts.
The things that really turned me off about the E-Mount CV 75/1.5? Two things really:
- the weight is almost 200g more than the M-mount (edit: it's actually 165g. Thanks for the correction)
- the focus ring texture is this shallow crosshatch that barely has any grip to it. My fingers would regularly slip while focusing.
dylanrichards wrote:
The things that really turned me off about the E-Mount CV 75/1.5? Two things really:
- the weight is almost 200g more than the M-mount
- the focus ring texture is this shallow crosshatch that barely has any grip to it. My fingers would regularly slip while focusing.
The E-mount version is 515g and the VM version is 350g, so yes there is a big difference in weight, but it is 165g which is not almost 200g from my perspective, YMMV. I use the VM version with the a M to E adapter and that combo weighs 384g. In use it is about a 130g difference. Not a small difference, IMO, but not 200g either.
