The IQ gotchas with silent mode on Z series cameras are basically nil, outside of rolling shutter on those with slower readouts. They still use full 14 bit RAW, so no DR loss or anything. Most other camera makers drop bits.
Jman13 wrote:
The IQ gotchas with silent mode on Z series cameras are basically nil, outside of rolling shutter on those with slower readouts. They still use full 14 bit RAW, so no DR loss or anything. Most other camera makers drop bits.
It's been mentioned that Silent mode will somehow make your lens motor and aperture blades quieter, and logically the only way it could possibly do that is by actuating them slower.
Again, there's extra stuff going on that isn't SUPER clear, just a beware kind of thing. Now that the Z9 has max aperture live view, if the blades are slower to close in silent mode, there could be downstream effects.
The good news is that for the Z9, you can just turn camera sounds off, and while this doesn't help with the IBIS clunk, it does allow for shooting silently.
The Z5 II, though, only accesses electronic shutter via Silent Mode (but because of rolling shutter, I wouldn't use silent mode for action on the Z5 II, so no worries about aperture blade speed).
Jman13 wrote:
So I picked up a Z5 II a couple weeks ago when my Z6 III was in for EVF repair, and so far I'm really enjoying it. One interesting thing, that I didn't even really notice until my Z6 III came back....the Z5II's sound from locking the IBIS unit is SO much quieter and less obtrusive than the 'thunk' sound that comes with the Z6III and Z8. And in silent mode it doesn't happen at all (seems they just keep it engaged during image review in silent mode). It's a small thing, but quite nice.
Only had a little bit of time to shoot with the Z5 II so far, but I'm hoping to take out out shooting this weekend.
Those are really nice pics. The b&w shot was with pic-mode set to b&w, not created by editing a color show, yes?
I have to ask what lens you were using.
Thanks.
I always shoot in RAW, but the B&W conversion was done using the Nikon Deep Monochrome profile in Lightroom, though I also did some selective raising of levels on the snow, as the default deep monochrome made the snow too dark. Note that all B&W conversions on the Z5II, including those built-in profiles in the camera, are conversions from color data, as the Z5II can't shoot in pure monochrome.
Most of my B&W edits are done using Silver Efex Pro, but not this one.
The first two were with the Tamron 16-30mm f/2.8. The ultra-macro shot of the 486 die was shot with the Laowa 25mm f/2.8 2.5-5x ultra macro lens, at around 4.1x magnification (so the width of the frame is ~8.8mm across) - it's a focus stack of 184 images, shot using a WeMacro motorized focus rail and stacked in Helicon focus.
Jman13 wrote:
... Note that all B&W conversions on the Z5II, including those built-in profiles in the camera, are conversions from color data, as the Z5II can't shoot in pure monochrome.
The first two were with the Tamron 16-30mm f/2.8. The ultra-macro shot of the 486 die was shot with the Laowa 25mm f/2.8 2.5-5x ultra macro lens...
Thanks. I understand that the Z5-II doesn't really do monochrome. I don't normally shoot b&w but your snow pic caught my eye because of the subtlety of the shading. Very dramatic. Two pics of Columbus seemingly taken at the same time of day but from different vantage points. That ultra-macro is well beyond your average your typical focus/click picture.
Has someone upgraded their Z6II to Z5II?
I saw on couple of places that they liked image quality more on Z6II, but I thought that sensors on both cameras are the same?
If someone have both cameras, it would be interesting to upload couple examples to see if there is difference
pemanja93 wrote:
Has someone upgraded their Z6II to Z5II?
I saw on couple of places that they liked image quality more on Z6II, but I thought that sensors on both cameras are the same?
If someone have both cameras, it would be interesting to upload couple examples to see if there is difference
jimmuller wrote:
Those are lovely, especially the last one presumably approaching sunset. How cold was it, BTW?
Car said it was about 21 when I got out and walked in, maybe half a mile. I got there too early though, 5:15 for a 5:48 sunset, so there was a lot of standing around. I was walking out about 5:50 and started getting the purple wisps so I stood around some more. Then I get back to the car, and had a good view to the east and the sky was so dark purple it almost didn't look real. Car said it was 13 when I started it up. Pulled over at an overlook about 4 miles down the pass for this sunset at around 6:15.
pemanja93 wrote:
Has someone upgraded their Z6II to Z5II?
I saw on couple of places that they liked image quality more on Z6II, but I thought that sensors on both cameras are the same?
If someone have both cameras, it would be interesting to upload couple examples to see if there is difference
The EXPEED7 image processing unit is better which can explain why some say it's better. The Z5ii and Zf native ISO are ISO100-64,000 while the Z6ii's native ISO is a tiny bit lower, ISO100-51200. All three use the same sensor but they have different processors.
Seabassius wrote:
Car said it was about 21 when I got out and walked in, maybe half a mile. I got there too early though, 5:15 for a 5:48 sunset, so there was a lot of standing around. I was walking out about 5:50 and started getting the purple wisps so I stood around some more. Then I get back to the car, and had a good view to the east and the sky was so dark purple it almost didn't look real. Car said it was 13 when I started it up. Pulled over at an overlook about 4 miles down the pass for this sunset at around 6:15.
My sweetie and I do a long walk around the neighborhood most days. Sometimes I've carried the Z5-II. Today I decided to put the 200mm on it, a 200mm f/4 Q Auto from about 1973. After an hour of walking I saw this overhead and managed to get one good pic. Here's a cropping from it.
jimmuller wrote:
Thanks. I understand that the Z5-II doesn't really do monochrome. I don't normally shoot b&w but your snow pic caught my eye because of the subtlety of the shading. Very dramatic. Two pics of Columbus seemingly taken at the same time of day but from different vantage points. That ultra-macro is well beyond your average your typical focus/click picture.
Nicely done.
AFAIK, the Z5II has the same picture control modes the Zf has, like the really good looking deep tone monochrome.
For pure BW you need (? ) a camera with a specific sensor like the Leica Q3 Monochrom
