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In hindsight, I'm now asking myself the same question. I've been thinking of switching for quite a while. Size and weight were factors. The 150-600 with the OM-1 is much, mush easier to pack than the 180-600 with the Z9 and I was finding myself not taking the Z system with me because of this. The last two trips I made to California I left the Z system at home. My wife has Parkinsons and she needs my help with her carry-ons and such so that limits what I can schlep around. I was finding myself using it less
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Gary,
First and most important, I'm sorry to read about your wife. I think we shared this before while I was helping my wife as she fought and lost out to a neurodegenerative disorder that was on the Parkinsonian spectrum. I know how challenging it is for both of you...

Your decision to move to OM systems makes perfect sense regardless of the rationale. The system has many assets, as the bodies are competitive and many of the lenses are as good as those produced by any other high-quality manufacturer. The Nikon 180-600 is a find lens, but it does not come close to top primes or zooms, one would think the OM 150-600 would be similar.

There have been many situations in which I find that my 180-600 underperforms and other instances where I think is a price to performance ratio leader. I can only surmise that there is a sweet spot for the 60-600 and you will find where using it will produce amazing images in once instance and only average ones in another.

Looking forward to seeing more work and reading about your experiences,
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Jul 31, 2025 at 06:15 PM
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Gary,
First and most important, I'm sorry to read about your wife. I think we shared this before while I was helping my wife as she fought and lost out to a neurodegenerative disorder that was on the Parkinsonian spectrum. I know how challenging it is for both of you...

Your decision to move to OM systems makes perfect sense regardless of the rationale. The system has many assets, as the bodies are competitive and many of the lenses are as good as those produced by any other high-quality manufacturer. The Nikon 180-600 is a find lens, but it does not
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I very much appreciate your thoughts Bruce. Thank you for that. We have our good and bad days as I'm sure you can relate.
Another reason for the switch is my interests and opportunities are changing also. I can't travel alone nearly as much as I used to. I don't like leaving my wife alone anymore for any extended period of time. Even my California trips to visit my daughter have changed. For the first couple of years I thought nothing of taking off by myself for a whole day to San Pedro for Falcons, or the Arboretum, or whatever. But now that he's four years old I look forward to spending more time with him and probably will even more so as he gets older. And I'm a little burned out from my local spots. I guess what I'm saying is I'm just not interested in chasing after stuff anymore. I'm just as happy sitting for three hours on the edge of a pond and watching Dragonflies and Butterflies and grabbing what I can here and there. Or sitting in my garden. Or throwing a pack on my E-bike and pedaling around. If I see something, great. If not, no problem. For years I've been saying that one of the things I love about Nature Photography is, when the time comes, I can do it from a rocking chair. Well I guess that time has snuck up on me. And I feel I've spent too much money already on this hobby. Buying, selling, switching gear. So that has led me to a system that fits my needs and right now I feel I'm set. I doubt that I'll be adding the 150-600. I kept my 100-400 and as long as I'm close enough that lens does a great job for what I need. That'll help me hone my stalking skills.There's a line in a Lowest of the Low song that I love. "And it's a kick in the nuts, when your vision clears up, and you realize you've only been playing with change." For years I've longed for that "better lens", the latest exotic prime. Closest I ever got was a 30 year old Nikon 500 f4 AF-I. Great lens btw. I realize now that's never gonna happen. But the best part is, I don't care anymore. And I'm not saying that in an apathetic way, if that makes sense. It just doesn't matter much anymore. All those shots that I thought I needed/wanted to get, I think of them now and it's a big shrug. I don't say any of this to disparage photography. I love my photography. Just for different reasons now. I've always felt, if you have a camera in your hand, you can never be bored. I think back to years ago when I showed up at my son's house to help with some job. Of course, he was running almost 2 hours late. I was locked out so I grabbed my camera, sat on his back deck, and spent that time pointing my camera up at the fall colored leaves and experimented with long exposures. Twisting the camera. Twirling the camera. Shaking the camera. Before I knew it he was home. If you've read this far, I applaud you
Thanks for listening.
Gary
And BTW, I fully agree with your assessment of the 180-600 and other similar lenses in that class.



Jul 31, 2025 at 07:20 PM
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sum1sgrampa wrote:
I very much appreciate your thoughts Bruce. Thank you for that. We have our good and bad days as I'm sure you can relate.
Another reason for the switch is my interests and opportunities are changing also. I can't travel alone nearly as much as I used to. I don't like leaving my wife alone anymore for any extended period of time. Even my California trips to visit my daughter have changed. For the first couple of years I thought nothing of taking off by myself for a whole day to San Pedro for Falcons, or the Arboretum, or whatever.
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So you know, I read the entire note, and that is because I have lived the existential crises you are living and have lived. Be it the softballs of the gear we want or think we need, or the hardball of watching a partner and spouse degenerate, life presents us with challenges and lessons. In the end, very little depends on how good our photos are, how sharp they are, or if we ever got the shot. So it is with the baggage of life's rewards and challenges, I say... it does not matter what gear you choose to use, "being there" and creating opportunities to just enjoy a bit of nature behind a camera is therapeutic for some of us, and that's good enough for me

cheers,
bruce



Jul 31, 2025 at 11:40 PM
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@sum1sgrampa, sorry to hear about your difficult situation.
If you were to revisit the images you have taken, my recommendation would be to try DXO PhotoLab or PureRaw. They support your camera/lens combo and are in my experience the best tools to address sharpness and/or noise issues in M43 raw images. Assuming the focus is in the right spot, they offer the best option to unlock the full potential of your lens - which may or may not live up to your expectations.



Aug 01, 2025 at 12:05 AM
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mzbe wrote:
@sum1sgrampa@, sorry to hear about your difficult situation.
If you were to revisit the images you have taken, my recommendation would be to try DXO PhotoLab or PureRaw. They support your camera/lens combo and are in my experience the best tools to address sharpness and/or noise issues in M43 raw images. Assuming the focus is in the right spot, they offer the best option to unlock the full potential of your lens - which may or may not live up to your expectations.


Appreciate the suggestion. I've been using DxO Pure Raw for a couple years now. Unfortunately I'm on version 2.26 which doesn't support MK ll files. I need to upgrade to V 5.



Aug 01, 2025 at 07:03 AM
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So you know, I read the entire note, and that is because I have lived the existential crises you are living and have lived. Be it the softballs of the gear we want or think we need, or the hardball of watching a partner and spouse degenerate, life presents us with challenges and lessons. In the end, very little depends on how good our photos are, how sharp they are, or if we ever got the shot. So it is with the baggage of life's rewards and challenges, I say... it does not matter what gear you choose to use,
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Couldn't have said it better myself
Thanks Bruce



Aug 01, 2025 at 07:34 AM
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sum1sgrampa wrote:
Appreciate the suggestion. I've been using DxO Pure Raw for a couple years now. Unfortunately I'm on version 2.26 which doesn't support MK ll files. I need to upgrade to V 5.


Gary, your PP is excellent, as are your images from your 100-400. I would exchange the 150-600 if you are getting inconsistent AF results. Does it give good sharp results at 600mm with manual focus?

I'm using version DxO Pure Raw 3.15 which works fine on my Mk II files.

Tony



Aug 01, 2025 at 01:23 PM
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Gary, your PP is excellent, as are your images from your 100-400. I would exchange the 150-600 if you are getting inconsistent AF results. Does it give good sharp results at 600mm with manual focus?

I'm using version DxO Pure Raw 3.15 which works fine on my Mk II files.

Tony


The lens is already back at MPB. I didn't do any testing with manual focus. Appreciate the tip on V 3.15.
Thanks very much Tony



Aug 01, 2025 at 05:32 PM
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sum1sgrampa wrote:
The lens is already back at MPB. I didn't do any testing with manual focus. Appreciate the tip on V 3.15.
Thanks very much Tony


Sometimes we get a stinker from MPB. I received one a few years ago, an OM 12, and a friend got an OM 17 f1.2 that looked perfect but was terrible, misaligned and fuzzy. Used lenses are always a gamble, and sometimes new ones too especially if the delivery person likes to kick and throw boxes.



Aug 02, 2025 at 06:08 AM
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Sometimes we get a stinker from MPB. I received one a few years ago, an OM 12, and a friend got an OM 17 f1.2 that looked perfect but was terrible, misaligned and fuzzy. Used lenses are always a gamble, and sometimes new ones too especially if the delivery person likes to kick and throw boxes.


They asked me if I wanted a refund or an exchange. Honestly I don't know where to go from here. There's a good possibility that my expectations were too high ? I asked for a refund to give me some time to think about it.



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Probably best to order a new one. Even better if you have access to an actual store where you can shoot some frames with either a display model to compare with your 100-400, or if they have a used one to do the same.


Aug 02, 2025 at 08:39 AM
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sum1sgrampa wrote:
I may have just been lucky with my copy of the Nikon F mount Sigma 150-600 S. As I mentioned above, I used that lens for seven years. I still have my 100-400. I may rent the 300 f4 and saving up for the 150-400 is on my to do list





I think you should rent and test it and see what you think, can you get along without the zoom, it's a fantastic lens.. when you've used 400mm and more you get spoiled on 4/3 so then you suddenly think that 300mm is short (600mm fx)

works well with MC-14 but loses a bit with MC-20 but even here it's pretty ok but worse AF with it I think.. but I don't think Mc14 loses much on AF speed
a little worse closest focus distance compared to 150-400 and 100-400 but the image quality is really good I think.. I took mine out today and dusted it off as it's been mostly in the camera cabinet lately

I can't bring myself to sell it.. despite the 150-400 which has its advantages but I really like the image quality that this one can provide.

Ronny






OM Digital Solutions OM-1 + OLYMPUS M.300mm F4.0 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr


uncropped image of 300mm at f4 roughly on the closest focus distance ( you can check out flickr in full resolution )


OM Digital Solutions OM-1 + OLYMPUS M.300mm F4.0 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr









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Ronny Olsson wrote:
I think you should rent and test it and see what you think, can you get along without the zoom, it's a fantastic lens.. when you've used 400mm and more you get spoiled on 4/3 so then you suddenly think that 300mm is short (600mm fx)

works well with MC-14 but loses a bit with MC-20 but even here it's pretty ok but worse AF with it I think.. but I don't think Mc14 loses much on AF speed
a little worse closest focus distance compared to 150-400 and 100-400 but the image quality is really good I think.. I
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This episode has given me time to re-think a bunch of things as I'm waiting for the refund from MPB. As a wildlife photographer you always think you need more reach. But I'm not so sure anymore. I'm beginning to think, as proven out through experience, that 600mm may be all I really need. When I start to chase after subjects that require 800, 900, or longer focal lengths, I'm rarely happy with the results. There's just too many factors at play that begin to degrade the image quality. I think renting is the way to go. That way I can compare the 300 to my 100-400 @ 300mm.
Thanks Ronny




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sum1sgrampa wrote:
This episode has given me time to re-think a bunch of things as I'm waiting for the refund from MPB. As a wildlife photographer you always think you need more reach. But I'm not so sure anymore. I'm beginning to think, as proven out through experience, that 600mm may be all I really need. When I start to chase after subjects that require 800, 900, or longer focal lengths, I'm rarely happy with the results. There's just too many factors at play that begin to degrade the image quality. I think renting is the way to go. That way I
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Should you have an opportunity to compare the two lenses, please share your observations - thanks!



Aug 05, 2025 at 03:01 AM
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Gary, I've read thru every post and your replies. You did a smart thing returning the 150-600mm -- life is too short to deal with frustration doing something you enjoy. Your 100-400mm serves you very well -- I'm amazed with the excellent images you capture with it.
That said, I personally think you ought to consider the 300mm f/4, if you realistically would be happy with the limitations of a prime -- I would not, although that lens is very tempting.
Have you considered upgrading your 100-400mm Mkl to the Mkll version? That is my current plan -- just waiting to financially recoup from a new (used) car purchase. The Synch IS really does make a difference when hand holding, and surprisingly the new tripod collar design make the camera/lens combo much easier to carry -- if you, like me tend to carry the set up by the tripod foot.
For some inspiration in that regard, here is a link to a recent video by Thomas Eisl where he goes into great detail about the design, testing, and performance of the Mkll (Don't be thown off by his 'white' lens -- he explains that he put a white vinyl skin on his to reduce operataing temp in the sunlight -- it looks very cool):



Greg



Aug 07, 2025 at 07:02 PM
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gmccroskery wrote:
Gary, I've read thru every post and your replies. You did a smart thing returning the 150-600mm -- life is too short to deal with frustration doing something you enjoy. Your 100-400mm serves you very well -- I'm amazed with the excellent images you capture with it.
That said, I personally think you ought to consider the 300mm f/4, if you realistically would be happy with the limitations of a prime -- I would not, although that lens is very tempting.
Have you considered upgrading your 100-400mm Mkl to the Mkll version? That is my current plan -- just waiting to financially
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I have thought about upgrading actually. But like you, I feel I have a very good copy of the V1 and it just seems like a steep price to pay just to gain the Sync IS. I do carry the combo by the tripod foot but because the lens is so small I'm fine with the original version. MPB has refunded my $$ but for now I'm just going to sit tight. I don't think the 150-600 is the answer and although the 300 is a better lens than the 100-400 I'm not sure it's worth the extra $$ over what I'm using now. Appreciate your input.



Aug 08, 2025 at 07:08 AM
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I have a friend who upgraded to a 100-400 mark II

Sure Sync Is and better tripod foot probably better weather sealing too .. however nothing else compares to the mark I and if you have a good and sharp copy and are still quite steady on your hand I would not do that upgrade myself considering the new price and what you get for a used mark I ..
my friend had to pay, ( got it when it came out ) and when what he got for his used mark I it was over 2 times higher price for the new one

either you just take it easy and save up for 150-400
or you get a used 300 with MC-14 until the economy allows otherwise
or you just wait .. I see that you are doing great with only 100-400 mark I

Ronny



Aug 08, 2025 at 08:31 AM
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sum1sgrampa wrote:
This episode has given me time to re-think a bunch of things as I'm waiting for the refund from MPB. As a wildlife photographer you always think you need more reach. But I'm not so sure anymore. I'm beginning to think, as proven out through experience, that 600mm may be all I really need. When I start to chase after subjects that require 800, 900, or longer focal lengths, I'm rarely happy with the results. There's just too many factors at play that begin to degrade the image quality. I think renting is the way to go. That way I
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I've just received my 300/4 from MPB (UK) and it's lovely. Virtually As New (£1,500) and pin-sharp. I was testing it out on a magpie at 30-40m and people in a cafe at 100m. Not the usual distances I'd shoot birds ! Normally using good fieldcraft it would be maybe 5m (small birds) - 20m (BoP) so my shots of the pepper pot at home at 7m showed me the detail I can expect (as did the magpie at 30m) !

Compared to the 100-400i I sold it is surely a step up and adding the TC14 still better. If you don't need the zoom (for for birds it's rare you do) then the 300/4 could be a great option for you. Similar weight but physically smaller.

N.B. MPB in the UK is whole other kettle of fish, to the US version, and I've had nothing but great service and products from them (and sales to them) over the years.



Aug 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM
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Congratulations on the new lens - now let's see some images

I did receive a 45 1.8 from MPB (USA) with no issues but they want $2179 for a like new copy - new is $2699. Too rich for my blood at least (for now). Still getting my feet wet with the OM-3.






Aug 10, 2025 at 01:07 PM
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I mostly have done landscape photography using large(r) film cameras and then FF. I reluctantly moved to m43 due to weight advantages and climbing injury. I then thought of trying bird photography, something I never thought I would. I bought 100-400 Leica/P first and was very impressed. With OM1.2 I decided to switch to Oly 100-400mmi. I do see some frames like yours once in a while and I think it is due to my errors. Do you use back-focus button?


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