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p.3 #1 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


JohnDizzo15 wrote:
Same on my end. No LRC update, but was immediately able to apply the profile when I received the lens.


There was a LR 15.1 "upgrade" and also to ACR... Not sure which one updates profiles - ACR?



Dec 20, 2025 at 08:27 PM
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p.3 #2 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


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Apparently it doesn't focus correctly on older bodies (like the R, R5, R6 and RP):


I haven't watched the video, but if you are referring to the focus shift, yes, that is a known issue that we have discussed here previously. This lens behaves much like the EF 50mm f/1.2L in that regard: images will be noticeably back-focused from around f/1.8 - f/2.8.

I don't think it is limited to older bodies, since I noticed this immediately with my R8 and R6 II. And Canon apparently does not apply any auto-correction via its AF algorithms for this phenomenon, as far as I can tell.

The good news is that there is a simple work around: set the camera's Display Simulation mode to Exposure+DOF. This causes the camera to acquire focus at the shooting aperture rather than wide open. After I made this change, I had no further issues with focus.

I'm not sure if all older cameras have this setting though.



Dec 21, 2025 at 08:57 AM
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garyvot wrote:
The good news is that there is a simple work around: set the camera's Display Simulation mode to Exposure+DOF. This causes the camera to acquire focus at the shooting aperture rather than wide open. After I made this change, I had no further issues with focus.

I'm not sure if all older cameras have this setting though.


Unfortunately the R5 does not



Dec 21, 2025 at 10:31 AM
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p.3 #4 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


Of course not relevant if you shoot wide open!


Dec 21, 2025 at 03:02 PM
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p.3 #5 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


paulfeng wrote:
Unfortunately the R5 does not


Gotta see if Canon is going to build that feature out for older cameras. I'd like to think it's possible, but my gut says 'not bloody likely'.



Dec 21, 2025 at 03:23 PM
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garyvot wrote:
I haven't watched the video, but if you are referring to the focus shift, yes, that is a known issue that we have discussed here previously. This lens behaves much like the EF 50mm f/1.2L in that regard: images will be noticeably back-focused from around f/1.8 - f/2.8.

I don't think it is limited to older bodies, since I noticed this immediately with my R8 and R6 II. And Canon apparently does not apply any auto-correction via its AF algorithms for this phenomenon, as far as I can tell.

The good news is that there is a simple work around: set
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Only the newer cameras have this setting. R5, R6 etc do not.



Dec 21, 2025 at 04:37 PM
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p.3 #7 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


johnctharp wrote:
Gotta see if Canon is going to build that feature out for older cameras. I'd like to think it's possible, but my gut says 'not bloody likely'.


It's possible and they should do so because there's probably a good chuck of people buying this lens because it's a relatively inexpensive gateway to faster than f/1.4 and they're still using older cameras. And they may not understand the technical reasons for, or how to work around focus shift. So the bottom line for them would be that their photos are soft in that aperture range and Canon sucks. And it sucks more that to easily work around it, they'd have to buy another camera to do so.

But it's Canon...

The R5 is still being sold new and had a fw update in November, so it should at the least be updated.
The R6 is discontinued and its last fw update was in 2024 for compatibility with the new 'P' battery. Given the 6-series is Canon's best seller (apparently), there will be a ton of these cameras in the wild and probably a decent number also being used with the 45/1.2, so Canon should update it as well.

The RP and R were last updated in 2020 and 2021 respectively, both for the same lens compatibility updates (50/1.8, 70-200/2.8, 100-500). I doubt Canon would update these...



Dec 21, 2025 at 07:21 PM
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p.3 #8 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


I'm not sure Canon is setting good precedents with their older body support.

First, it's the VCM series aperture rings.

Now, it may be what amounts to lack of focus shift correction on a lens they are hoping to move in volume. I am hopeful Canon does add the option to the older bodies, but I'm pretty doubtful, sadly.

I visit the Facebook Beginner's Photography Group and see that some relative newbies are still looking at the R, RP, or R6. Plus many R5 users have little reason to change bodies. All of these bodies still have plenty of life, so I think it's plain good sense to go back through the entire R line simply for customer goodwill. This is even more important because no newbie wants to hear that their new-to-them R or RP has "weird" focusing issues on their new "step up prime."






Dec 21, 2025 at 09:44 PM
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p.3 #9 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


fraibert wrote:
I'm not sure Canon is setting good precedents with their older body support.


The precedent already isn't 'good', Canon hasn't been one to really revisit older cameras with firmware updates unless an issue found was essentially crippling. And that's rare as major and minor issues alike are typically ironed out in the first year, when they rarely occur.

fraibert wrote:
First, it's the VCM series aperture rings.


This one seems weird - but at the same time, this is just not a feature that is likely to be widely desired. Camera reviewers of course do their due diligence in reporting the state of support, but again, this is a feature that most people are just not going to use, and that almost certainly informs Canon's efforts toward supporting it on the camera side.

That's not to excuse the lack of backporting the functionality to older cameras that share the mount, it's just to take a stab at 'why' that decision was made.

fraibert wrote:
Now, it may be what amounts to lack of focus shift correction on a lens they are hoping to move in volume. I am hopeful Canon does add the option to the older bodies, but I'm pretty doubtful, sadly.


They introduced a feature that can resolve the issue before this lens was announced, but for most of us, this is the first time hearing of it. Further, many of the initial (read: not test chart) reviews of the lens found no issue with focus shift in real-world shooting, and certainly Canon knew that the issue would be limited to specific shooting scenarios (same as the old EF 50/1.2L). It's entirely possible that Canon themselves didn't view the 'correcting' feature as necessary for the 45/1.2 STM.

So then it may be up to their customer base to make enough noise to convince Canon to backport it, but as I said above, the precedent is... not encouraging.

fraibert wrote:
I visit the Facebook Beginner's Photography Group and see that some relative newbies are still looking at the R, RP, or R6. Plus many R5 users have little reason to change bodies. All of these bodies still have plenty of life, so I think it's plain good sense to go back through the entire R line simply for customer goodwill. This is even more important because no newbie wants to hear that their new-to-them R or RP has "weird" focusing issues on their new "step up prime."


So, yeah, that'd be annoying, and Canon is certainly doing a disservice to themselves (at least in the eyes of their customers) by not only having a fix ready upon release of the new lens, but not announcing a firmware update in development or even recognizing the issue. This is a PR mess, if only limited in scope.

On the other hand - many of those users will not encounter the issue. One has to shoot in a particular range of apertures and at a closer than normal focus distance to force focus shift to visually cause a problem, because as said above, it isn't an issue at normal distances. I'm sure some folks will shoot portraits where only the tip of one eyelash is in focus, and if that's a creative decision that they enjoy, well, good for them?

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Also, I believe shooting with the 'Depth of Field Preview' button held down will have the same effect. Perhaps this is a workaround for those instances where the camera doesn't support automatically focusing at the shooting aperture?

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What I would like to see is an option for this lens (and maybe the RF 100/2.8L macro) to have a 'focus shift compensation' function that would automatically stop the lens down to say f/2.8 on the RF 45/1.2 STM when not shooting at f/1.2 or smaller than f/2.8, at close distances, and whatever aperture and distance range works for the 100L (I've forgotten the results of that discussion). Make the option available to be toggled on and off, that always works when those lenses are attached, and maybe make an exception for when ISO is so high that focusing at all could be problematic.



Dec 22, 2025 at 10:49 AM
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p.3 #10 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


OpticalLimits has swiftly published a review. In Klaus' own words: "It ain't pretty".
https://opticallimits.com/canon/canon-rf/canon-rf-45mm-f-1-2-stm-review/
TL;DR the score is 3/10 (which would have been 1.5⭐ with the older system), and the additional "Avoid" note. Guess we all know why.



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p.3 #11 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


My thoughts align with your responses.

I would further note that Canon should have particular concern with the beginner angle. On the Facebook group, a lot of newbies over there seem to be recommended some variant of the Rebel T-series (T6/T7 in particular) as a budget starter body. Accordingly, the natural upgrade path at some point becomes a R body of some kind.

But since the investment in that first Rebel is relatively low overall it's also quite possible for upgraders to be pushed off the Canon path. The third party lens issue is one point ofc, but Canon doesn't also want to appear like some appliance company trying to push planned obsolescence.


johnctharp wrote:
The precedent already isn't 'good', Canon hasn't been one to really revisit older cameras with firmware updates unless an issue found was essentially crippling. And that's rare as major and minor issues alike are typically ironed out in the first year, when they rarely occur.

This one seems weird - but at the same time, this is just not a feature that is likely to be widely desired. Camera reviewers of course do their due diligence in reporting the state of support, but again, this is a feature that most people are just not going to use, and that almost certainly
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Dec 22, 2025 at 03:13 PM
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p.3 #12 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


IlyaSnopchenko wrote:
OpticalLimits has swiftly published a review. In Klaus' own words: "It ain't pretty".
https://opticallimits.com/canon/canon-rf/canon-rf-45mm-f-1-2-stm-review/
TL;DR the score is 3/10 (which would have been 1.5⭐ with the older system), and the additional "Avoid" note. Guess we all know why.


Yeah, that's... well, a reality check, but should have been expected coming from Klaus. He's going to rate based on pure optical performance, price and utility be darned!

But that really misses the forest through the trees. He alludes to 'YouTubers hyping the lens up', but the thing is, we've already seen what the lens is capable of outside of test charts, and he's not comparing it to the alternatives.

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Like, what even are the alternatives (open discussion, not directed at you Ilya!)?
- the 50/1.4L VCM - twice the price, still digitally corrected (what's his deal with this?), optically outstanding, faster focusing
- the RF 50/1.8 STM - this is the real competitor, which Klaus does allude to in terms of this class of lens being excellent when stopped down, almost universally (it'd be a notable flaw if the lens didn't clean up and sharpen up by f/2.8)
- adapted EF stuff - the EF 50/1.4 USM, which would be cheaper and almost as fast, the Sigma 50/1.4 Art, which would be larger, heavier, more expensive, and probably have the same focus performance outside of video (STM may be smoother), and almost certainly a bit better corrected through the widest apertures, what else? The EF 50/1.2L that's still twice the price used, with a slower AF system, less sharpness at every aperture, the same focus shift issue, while being larger and heavier?

I think the bigger comparison is to other systems, with Nikon's 50/1.8Z S-series lens being an outstanding optic that's going on sale for about the same price as the 45/1.2 STM, as well as Nikon's Z 50/1.4 lens that follows a similar 'make it fast and do corrections in post' philosophy. But the slower S lens has an MSRP of ~US$800, so that's more of a holiday sale comparison unless Nikon just keeps the price low.

On Sony... well, you have a newer Sigma 50/1.4 Art - twice the price at MSRP and only slightly discounted for the holidays - which would likely be superior in every measurable way except character. Sony's lenses are as expensive or even more than equivalent RF L lenses, so they're not really worth comparing at this price point IMO.

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So, at <US$500, the 45/1.2 STM represents a 'unique' option. It's a step up from the RF 50/1.8 STM in every way (except uncorrected distortion and vignetting), including in terms of sharpness and from other reviews the AF is superior as well.

I'd say that it more or less fits into the niche that the old 50/1.4 USM did; character wide open, functional AF (now great for video!), cleans up quickly (faster than f/1.8 lenses), decent build quality, and relatively affordable.



Dec 22, 2025 at 04:39 PM
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I think the closest practical competitor on Canon is the Tamron 45/1.8. Sure, the Tamron isn't as fast as the Canon, but it can be found used for lower cost than the Canon and has better performance characteristics--both in terms of build quality (including weather sealing) and optical performance. The Tamron even has IS.

The Tamron does have a notable purple fringing issue, but the Canon isn't exactly untroublesome in the CA department.

I'm sure the Canon is better for video due to the STM motor versus the Tamron's ultrasonic-ring type. But this difference also means the Tamron is probably faster for still AF.

(Edit: I feel the late Tamron SP f/1.8 line served as proof of concept for the Nikon Z 50/1.8 S, showing that people will respond to a high performing f/1.8 prime.)


johnctharp wrote:
Yeah, that's... well, a reality check, but should have been expected coming from Klaus. He's going to rate based on pure optical performance, price and utility be darned!

But that really misses the forest through the trees. He alludes to 'YouTubers hyping the lens up', but the thing is, we've already seen what the lens is capable of outside of test charts, and he's not comparing it to the alternatives.

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Like, what even are the alternatives (open discussion, not directed at you Ilya!)?
- the 50/1.4L VCM - twice the price, still digitally corrected (what's his deal with this?), optically outstanding, faster
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Dec 23, 2025 at 01:17 PM
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fraibert wrote:
I think the closest practical competitor on Canon is the Tamron 45/1.8. Sure, the Tamron isn't as fast as the Canon, but it can be found used for lower cost than the Canon and has better performance characteristics--both in terms of build quality (including weather sealing) and optical performance. The Tamron even has IS.

The Tamron does have a notable purple fringing issue, but the Canon isn't exactly untroublesome in the CA department.

I'm sure the Canon is better for video due to the STM motor versus the Tamron's ultrasonic-ring type. But this difference also means the Tamron is probably faster for
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Well, I have that lens, and I don't find it particularly comparable. It's sharper than the aging double-gauss style lenses that Nikon and Canon and everyone else have made for half a century, but it isn't Sigma Art sharp at f/1.8, and the CA is as bad or worse than those other lenses (unlike the Nikon S). Granted, it's still a good optic and if optical results are the concern here, I'd say it's comparable; but given that it's not really a fast focuser, it's heavy (tank-like build), and it's large even before the adapter, I don't really see anyone opting for it before the Canon unless they're finding it on an absurd sale (like US$200) and don't mind dealing with its limitations.



Dec 23, 2025 at 01:37 PM
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fraibert wrote:
I think the closest practical competitor on Canon is the Tamron 45/1.8. Sure, the Tamron isn't as fast as the Canon, but it can be found used for lower cost than the Canon and has better performance characteristics--both in terms of build quality (including weather sealing) and optical performance. The Tamron even has IS.



I could only find used copies of the Tamron in EF mount. Prices were rather high, ranging from $350 (EX) to $520 (mint). And, course, you need an adapter, adding another benjamin to the cost along with extra bulk.



Dec 23, 2025 at 01:41 PM
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Still pretty content with it for what it is so far. While it is not going to be a lens for everyone, it is definitely a lens many can appreciate.

I will say, it does require a bit more attention and TLC in the post process, in that I do not consistently prefer the look across varying scenarios with or without profile corrections applied. So in that sense, I do have to figure out which one works better when processing. In addition, if I leave corrections on, I still have to dial back those corrections a bit to taste. Slowly but surely though, I think I'm getting to a comfortable place with how I want to process the images with this thing.

RF 45/1.2 by John Dizzo, on Flickr
RF 45/1.2 by John Dizzo, on Flickr
RF 45/1.2 by John Dizzo, on Flickr
RF 45/1.2 by John Dizzo, on Flickr



Dec 23, 2025 at 03:34 PM
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You guys are killing me with this 45 discussion... Logically in my brain it's not a great lens but then I see some pics and go well yaaaa know... then I think that old EF 50 f/1.4 is not that different and it's collecting dust..... then I see other pics and think just bite the bullet and get the f/1.4 instead as it's clearly the better choice.... Then my wallet screams from the corner and I go back around the loop


Dec 23, 2025 at 06:42 PM
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robstein wrote:
You guys are killing me with this 45 discussion... Logically in my brain it's not a great lens but then I see some pics and go well yaaaa know... then I think that old EF 50 f/1.4 is not that different and it's collecting dust..... then I see other pics and think just bite the bullet and get the f/1.4 instead as it's clearly the better choice.... Then my wallet screams from the corner and I go back around the loop


For me, the 45/1.2 STM looks like the ultimate travel prime, when taking pictures of family. The focal length, size, weight, and versatility (f/1.2 and sharpens up / cleans up stopping down quickly) are all things I'm looking for. Might even do well for video on a gimbal for video, given the weight!



Dec 24, 2025 at 08:08 AM
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p.3 #19 · Canon RF 45mm f/1.2


johnctharp wrote:
Yeah, that's... well, a reality check, but should have been expected coming from Klaus. He's going to rate based on pure optical performance, price and utility be darned!

But that really misses the forest through the trees. He alludes to 'YouTubers hyping the lens up', but the thing is, we've already seen what the lens is capable of outside of test charts, and he's not comparing it to the alternatives.

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Like, what even are the alternatives (open discussion, not directed at you Ilya!)?

's fine. Sorry, couldn't reply earlier, I was travelling, then working.
I'm not super knowledgeable with the Canon alternatives but at least this lens seems to be quite a bit better than the EF 50mm f/1.2L, which was ridiculously overpriced for what it was, and that was amply demonstrated by this new 45mm which at least gets impeccably sharp by f/4 if Klaus is to be believed (and I know no reasons to suggest otherwise). If I had happened to fall into the well of RF mount and gone native, I would've likely chosen the 50mm f/1.4. Of course it's a lot more expensive, but it should be a very capable performer - I say "should" because reviews are a little bit scarce for the time being...

But as @fraibert has rightly pointed out, the Tamron 45mm f/1.8 is a sound alternative (and the only AF 45mm lens for DSLR mounts unless I'm mistaken?) It's sharp from wide open and has image stabilization. I have it and enjoy using it a lot. Yes, the AF is not super fast, and the lens is one the large side (more so with the adapter) but it should be rather inexpensive, focuses very closely (down to 1:3 maximum magnification) and has great build quality and is a joy to use.

This lens' only claim to fame is f/1.2 max. aperture (and we don't even know how accurate is that claim, lol) on the budget. But as the test done by Klaus shows, even near center at f/1.2 has fallen outside the boundaries of the acceptable (in PZ/OL speak, "Good" means slightly soft though acceptable for some purposes, and the sharpness diagram shows this aperture giving results in the lower half of that "good" range).


I'd say that it more or less fits into the niche that the old 50/1.4 USM did; character wide open, functional AF (now great for video!), cleans up quickly (faster than f/1.8 lenses), decent build quality, and relatively affordable.

Yeah, that, and the EF 50mm f/1.2L too, which was a decidedly "character" lens, and didn't sharpen up nearly as well as this lens does.

But judging by the reactions here, it has found its users.
I'll stick with the Tamron though.

BTW have you noticed that Bastian of PhillipReeve.net has promised to publish the review of Canon 50mm f/1.0L lens before New Year? Now that'll be an interesting read.



Dec 24, 2025 at 09:09 AM
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IlyaSnopchenko wrote:
BTW have you noticed that Bastian of PhillipReeve.net has promised to publish the review of Canon 50mm f/1.0L lens before New Year? Now that'll be an interesting read.


Fun fact: back in 1999 or so, I had an opportunity to purchase this lens in near-new condition from Glazer's in Seattle for $600, which even then was a great deal. I passed on it, sadly (I bought a used 300mm f/2.8L IS Mark I instead, which I owned and used until just last year when I bought the RF 100-300). I should have known it would eventually become a collectible.



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