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Seamless paper roll support?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Seamless paper roll support?


I've leased some space to set up a small studio and it's great. A few things I had to address were the paint on the long wall which I resolved by hanging black curtains, a long stretch of windows that I fixed by using a v-flat to remove unwanted reflections in peoples eyes, and unknown wall construction that I solved by using auto poles. One thing remains:

I bought a set of drive chain spindles which work great, but my 9' roll of seamless sags in the middle causing uneven roll out. I used a leader bar clamped to the leading edge, which helps, but I feel I'm missing something. Any suggestions?

At this point I bough a set of non-twist "U" hangers for the super clamps and a bar that comes with attachment points for the hangers, but this solution removes the ability to simply chain the rolls out and in. I'm thinking there's a bar I need that will slide into the rolls of paper that the expansion spindles fit into, providing better support, but before I make another purchase, I'm hoping someone can share what they do to ensure the paper remains unadulterated by the sag.

Adding a photo for reference. Hard to see the sag, but you can see the crinkle in the paper.

Thanks,

Greg







Jan 23, 2026 at 02:01 PM
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Nice work on your shooting space. Are you using a cross pole?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/822762-REG/Impact_VPC_5_Background_Holder_Cross_Pole.html



Jan 23, 2026 at 02:54 PM
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rico wrote:
Nice work on your shooting space. Are you using a cross pole?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/822762-REG/Impact_VPC_5_Background_Holder_Cross_Pole.html


Thanks Rico. I went ahead and ordered a cross pole that is designed to be used with the spindles. I completely missed that when I was buying what I thought I needed.

Cheers,
Greg



Jan 23, 2026 at 04:27 PM
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Here's a more economical version, which I have and use daily.

https://strobepro.com/products/3-piece-aluminum-background-core



Jan 23, 2026 at 06:01 PM
 


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JBPhotog wrote:
Here's a more economical version, which I have and use daily.

https://strobepro.com/products/3-piece-aluminum-background-core


Thanks JB. I'll bet those rubber grip pads eliminate the pole from spinning without the paper, but I just bought one from Adorama. I guess I'll see how it works knowing there's a better solution available thanks to you.

Greg



Jan 23, 2026 at 10:49 PM
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The rubber grip pads are actually shelf liner you can pick up from the dollar store.

You will have to experiment with the right size liner to wedge in between the seamless inner paper core and the aluminum core tube you just bought. There has to be a bit of clearance otherwise you would never be able to insert the metal core through the seamless core. The shelf liner acts as a wedge to grip the two together so raising and lowering your seamless works with your background system. HTH.

gregfountain wrote:
Thanks JB. I'll bet those rubber grip pads eliminate the pole from spinning without the paper, but I just bought one from Adorama. I guess I'll see how it works knowing there's a better solution available thanks to you.

Greg





Jan 24, 2026 at 11:49 AM
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JBPhotog wrote:
The rubber grip pads are actually shelf liner you can pick up from the dollar store.

You will have to experiment with the right size liner to wedge in between the seamless inner paper core and the aluminum core tube you just bought. There has to be a bit of clearance otherwise you would never be able to insert the metal core through the seamless core. The shelf liner acts as a wedge to grip the two together so raising and lowering your seamless works with your background system. HTH.



Thanks. I went back and clicked the thumbnail and now see that. I can appreciate a vendor that shows those sort of tips to make it work. I'll pick up a roll of shelf liner to see if it works with the one I ordered from Adorama....



Jan 24, 2026 at 12:05 PM
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When I use paper, I usually attach the wider rolls to a steel angle that I placed 4" below my studio ceiling. It is just ahead of my electric powered 6 backdrop 10' wide backdrop system, also hung from the ceiling, but I have used the paper on backdrops stands with a cross bar that telescopes from about 5' to 10', or I use two C-Stands with the boom arm raised to 90 degrees and the paper between them. A medium sized "A" clamp at each end through the roller hole and arm will prevent it from unrolling. I also use more of these clamps across the bottom of the paper to hold it from curling. These Backdrop systems noted above also come with small clamps attached to Velcro strips, so you can better stabilize the paper or cloth backdrop at several levels by attaching the backdrop to the uprights of the backdrop stand.

You have a pretty good setup for your studio. My studio is a former 2nd Master Bedroom Suite in my home. We live in the one on the first floor and this one is on the 2nd floor. I have it set up for both still and video. I depend on the inverse square law for distance = darkness, as all of my walls and ceiling are flat white. I too have window light to deal with, but installed sliding door tracks on the ceiling to block the Sunlight, and also to block the computer tables along the wall below the windows. I attached 4' X about 7' sheets of insulation board to this roller system, also painted flat white, and I can use it as a 2nd backdrop at 90 degrees to my working backdrops, but it is usually just used to block the Sunlight from the Windows.

I can tell you more about my studio if you are interested. I've wanted my own studio since I began taking pictures in 1952, but never had one, other than a short rental a few times, and temporarily converting our living room into a studio for a few short times while my 4 children were growing. 6 years ago I realized that this 19 X 26' former master bedroom suite upstairs in my home would make a small, but adequate studio, and I began converting it. It's a "Work in Process" and I have changed it a few times to make it better, but I'm now quite happy with it. I hang a lot from the ceiling with a DIY system, and my video light panels can remain up there while I use flash on light stands below, and it's only an 8' ceiling. Power for the lights comes from outlets on the ceiling, so power cords are ever on the floor. A minimum of light stands on the floor too and wireless controls for the lights so no climbing except to change things. Even my tether cable runs up to the ceiling and drops down at the camera position with just enough slack to move around. Even the center ceiling light (my work light) is now wirelessly controled from each camera stand and each kind of light, wether attached to the ceiling or on a light stand can be separately powered on and off wirelessly from remotes on the camera stands, on my computer table, on the wheeled toolbox where I usually set my camera during shoot breaks, and also at the door where the original switch was located. All of the remote control parts were purchased reasonably through Amazon and they are "plug and play" with minimal setup required. I'm now using two 6'6" tall camera stands for minimum floor space use and reduced trip hazards, so no tripods on the floor either most of the time. They are more stable than tripods too.

My shooting is now primarily for my close family and friends and I never charge for my work now, but I like to experiment with light and cameras, so it's now one of my two main hobbies and I'm up here most days. My other hobby is woodworking, and the shop is outdoors in a small barn across the driveway from the house, so I make things for my photo studio when needed too. It's basically a furniture shop, but I have donated time to the local science museum where some work is done in their shop and some in my home shop.

Charley





Jan 26, 2026 at 01:18 PM







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