If it's $5,000 USD or more, that means the A7RV should remain a good deal, and the used market prices shouldn't collapse?
I don't understand why Sony would make an A1ii killer. What's the catch? Doubt they make it as good as they are saying. No way it does 120 AF calculations / second, for example....
arbitrage wrote:
My guess is the one crippling factor the A7RVI will have compared to A1II will be the buffer depth. For sports and BIF shooters that will likely leave the A1II as the better choice even if all the other parts of the rumour are true. 2 weeks to go.
RoamingScott wrote:
So far, Sony clearly doesn't feel they need to be price competitive on bodies. I think it's insane that the market is supporting that/them for cameras that are more than 50% more expensive than their competition, but clearly Sony isn't feeling pressure to drop prices or they would have done it already.
You are kidding yourself - they have no competition.
Look at Nikon with their 50% lower prices - basically gone broke again ! Will they even be around in 2027 to deliver a Z9ii or anything else for that matter ?
duncangr wrote:
Look at Nikon with their 50% lower prices - basically gone broke again ! Will they even be around in 2027 to deliver a Z9ii or anything else for that matter ?
Sorry, but this is an uninformed take at best. Nikon as a whole might be having some issues, but they're worth around 4 billion dollars, are spending over 100 million to increase their manufacturing capabilities, and the imaging department is in the black.
People are very happy with Nikon's current cameras, if anything, people are disappointed Nikon doesn't have the manufacturing capabilities to fill in more models people would like to see, like the Z7III or ZF with a higher res sensor.
Sony may be finally catching up to the Z8 with the a7rVI 3 years later, and it probably still won't have features like raw video and backlit buttons.
The “Nikon is dying” narrative has been floating around for more than a decade. If it keeps going at this pace, the company might finally fold a few decades after I am no longer around. Meanwhile, I am happily drifting back to Nikon. The Zf is a blast to use, and the lenses available today are more than enough for my needs.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading the reactions to this rumor.
Cannibalizing sales of a midlife flagship by rolling out a cheaper, superior option would have the Sony Imaging C-suite relegated to the Sony Lemonade Stand immediately.
The only way this could remotely be a thing is if they are planning a firmware overhaul of the A1ii that expands its capabilities to retain flagship status.
DWOfPaul wrote:
Sorry, but this is an uninformed take at best. Nikon as a whole might be having some issues, but they're worth around 4 billion dollars, are spending over 100 million to increase their manufacturing capabilities, and the imaging department is in the black.
People are very happy with Nikon's current cameras, if anything, people are disappointed Nikon doesn't have the manufacturing capabilities to fill in more models people would like to see, like the Z7III or ZF with a higher res sensor.
Sony may be finally catching up to the Z8 with the a7rVI 3 years later, and it probably still won't have features like raw video and backlit buttons. ...Show more →
Their imaging business revenue is down 50% in one year, that's pretty insane. They have not articulated a strategy for how they reverse this trend (new CEO is pretty telling - current CEO obviously didn't convince the board!) and don't seem to be introducing any compelling new high end stuff in 2026 so I imagine their 2026 numbers will be even more dire.
Even if they do introduce mark 2 products in 2026 how many current customers will upgrade to Z9ii and Z8ii? Most Nikon folks seem to think what they have got is the bees knees, so unless they are lying there is an even smaller market for these mark 2 products than there was for the mark 1 releases.
Doesn't look great to me and mixing it up with Red like they are seems to be further diluting their stills camera development resources - so I can't help but wonder if they ever really be a market leader in that space again.
But hey, maybe they will pull a rabbit out of the hat.
EB-1 wrote:
The whole thing could be a scam or more likely the framing rate and readout speed will be slower, like in a partly stackable sensor.
EBH
Click bait - but then the Sony reps did say, with a wry smile on their faces, that they would be bringing more innovative sensors to the market - and I don't think they care about cannibalising their own products.
Perhaps the new SOC with unified memory will allow the A1iii to do 60fps - that will trigger a few upgrades
the Sony fanboys be strong in this thread. Nikon ain't going bankrupt in '27 folks.
I'm really not sure what I want out of an A7R6. I suppose if it's 67 MPx, with fully stacked sensor and can do 20+ FPS, I could dump all of my Sony bodies and consolidate into one. But if it's $5k, I'd be in no rush to do it. I hope it has R4 weight instead of R5.
I'm sort of reluctant to throw over $4k at a camera body because I chew through them like a plate of cookies. But as a 7R4 holdout, I could be convinced.
jayviary wrote:
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading the reactions to this rumor.
Cannibalizing sales of a midlife flagship by rolling out a cheaper, superior option would have the Sony Imaging C-suite relegated to the Sony Lemonade Stand immediately.
The only way this could remotely be a thing is if they are planning a firmware overhaul of the A1ii that expands its capabilities to retain flagship status.
It could also be possible that they are planning on completing restructuring their product linup. The rumored specs sound an awful lot like what I would expect an A1III to be.
Could be that they are planning on repositioning the A7R line as the flagship line which it essentially was prior to the A9 and later the A1 lines.
That combined withe fact that the Z9 sells for around $5k on sale and the R1 sells for $6800 I could see something like this:
A9III - $6800
A7RVI - $5000
A1II - $4000 (Repositioned to compete more closely with the Z8 and R5 Mk2)
A7V - $2800
While the naming scheme would no longer make sense all the current models would still have a place and the A1II will still be relevant.
This new pricing structure would also cause problems with the older models like the A7SIII since it would now be essentially replaced by the A1II.
All of this is assuming the specs are correct which I too am skeptical of. I think it’s far more likely it’s a partially stacked sensor which would not render the A1II irrelevant while simultaneously being a massive improvement over the A7RV.
Logan Nolag wrote:
It could also be possible that they are planning on completing restructuring their product linup. The rumored specs sound an awful lot like what I would expect an A1III to be.
Could be that they are planning on repositioning the A7R line as the flagship line which it essentially was prior to the A9 and later the A1 lines.
That combined withe fact that the Z9 sells for around $5k on sale and the R1 sells for $6800 I could see something like this:
A9III - $6800
A7RVI - $5000
A1II - $4000 (Repositioned to compete more closely with the Z8 and R5 Mk2)
A7V - $2800
While the naming scheme would no longer make sense all the current models would still have a place and the A1II will still be relevant.
This new pricing structure would also cause problems with the older models like the A7SIII since it would now be essentially replaced by the A1II.
All of this is assuming the specs are correct which I too am skeptical of. I think it’s far more likely it’s a partially stacked sensor which would not render the A1II irrelevant while simultaneously being a massive improvement over the A7RV. ...Show more →
Honestly, I'm not ready for 67mpx at 30FPS. Have you seen how much hard drives and SSD's cost these days?
Steve Spencer wrote:
I am guessing it will not be a fully stacked sensor and will only have around a 12ms/1/80th of a second sensor scan speed, there is a big difference between that and the A1 II sensor scan speed (4ms/1/250th of a second)..
The sensor readout speed was leaked to be 60fps or 16ms. This is roughly 4x faster than the A7RV, which is really slow in ES. It is now on par with the Canon R5I, 2.6x slower than the Canon R5II, 4x slower than the A1 I&II and 4.4x slower than the Z8/9. I don't think I'd want to shoot BIF with ES on that, but for more normal subject speeds it should do now.
Many appear to expect that the new camera will shoot 60fps RAW. Seems to me that Andrea has confused everybody. As far as I've read his page, this claim is not coming from any leak, but is his optimistic extrapolation from the sensor spec.
Daran wrote:
The sensor readout speed was leaked to be 60fps or 16ms. This is roughly 4x faster than the A7RV, which is really slow in ES. It is now on par with the Canon R5I, 2.6x slower than the Canon R5II, 4x slower than the A1 I&II and 4.4x slower than the Z8/9. I don't think I'd want to shoot BIF with ES on that, but for more normal subject speeds it should do now.
Many appear to expect that the new camera will shoot 60fps RAW. Seems to me that Andrea has confused everybody. As far as I've read his page, this claim is not coming from any leak, but is his optimistic extrapolation from the sensor spec....Show more →
If this plays out to be accurate, it would make the release make a whole lot more sense.
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Daran wrote:
The sensor readout speed was leaked to be 60fps or 16ms. This is roughly 4x faster than the A7RV, which is really slow in ES. It is now on par with the Canon R5I, 2.6x slower than the Canon R5II, 4x slower than the A1 I&II and 4.4x slower than the Z8/9. I don't think I'd want to shoot BIF with ES on that, but for more normal subject speeds it should do now.
Many appear to expect that the new camera will shoot 60fps RAW. Seems to me that Andrea has confused everybody. As far as I've read his page, this claim is not coming from any leak, but is his optimistic extrapolation from the sensor spec....Show more →
That analysis seems right to me, and if it is a 16ms (i.e., 1/60th of a sec) sensor scan speed then it likely is a partially stacked sensor like the A7 V. A 67 MP sensor with increased DR and greatly increase sensor scan speed is a nice improvement in the sensor and will serve many people well. Sony won't be putting a sensor that outperforms the A1 and A1 II's sensor in almost every way, which never made sense. Nor will this camera be a direct competitor for the R5 II or the Z8, but it will still be a great sensor in what is likely to be an excellent camera.
Daran wrote:
The sensor readout speed was leaked to be 60fps or 16ms. This is roughly 4x faster than the A7RV, which is really slow in ES. It is now on par with the Canon R5I, 2.6x slower than the Canon R5II, 4x slower than the A1 I&II and 4.4x slower than the Z8/9. I don't think I'd want to shoot BIF with ES on that, but for more normal subject speeds it should do now.
Many appear to expect that the new camera will shoot 60fps RAW. Seems to me that Andrea has confused everybody. As far as I've read his page, this claim is not coming from any leak, but is his optimistic extrapolation from the sensor spec....Show more →
Is this the sensor?
If so it confirms it will have the DGO (DCG-HDR) which will be nice for those shooting base ISO, high DR images in MS.
It also lists it as "Stacked". Does Sony usually differentiate between stacked and partially stacked in these sensor specs??
EB-1 wrote:
I'm not sure if you are joking, but I'd bet the home that it is not going to have a square sensor.
EBH
I was thinking about the “square sensor” business last night, and it occurred to me (as a person who used to use square sensor TLR cameras years ago) that hardly anyone got them because they wanted to make non-square images and avoid rotating the camera 90 degrees. I think that it would be the same with a digital square sensor camera today.
I cannot see it happening.
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It isn’t uncommon for a lower-tier (or different tier?) model to pick up some. features from the prior generation of higher-tier cameras at introduction… and then for the next model of the higher tier product to pick up even more capabilities and features.
It makes sense for a lot of reasons. The technology has often dropped in cost — take high MP sensor for example. And by initially selling the new, lower tier model as “getting features from a more expensive model!” upgrades are encouraged to buy. And then, a few months later, when that top-tier model comes out with ITS improvements, that encourages even more purchases.
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nineblade wrote:
Honestly, I'm not ready for 67mpx at 30FPS. Have you seen how much hard drives and SSD's cost these days?
There are not THAT many situations in which 30fps is an advantage, and often it is actually better to shoot at a lower fps such as 10fps or so.
I've always been a gen or two behind, still sporting an R3 and an R4 and a A1 mk1, but man prices are getting too hot for me, I've been eyeballing the R5 for a while so maybe I'll pick up a used bargain once this new one ships
