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Is HDR the future of photography?

  
 
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p.2 #1 · Is HDR the future of photography?


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My understanding is that HDR and expanded color spaces like DCI-P3 are different things.

Reproduction systems (screens and printers) cannot necessarily reproduce all possible colors. Some color spaces are more restricted in this regard (like sRGB) while others are more expansive (like P3). So this, as I understand it, isn’t exactly about HDR, or expanding dynamic range, but about expanding the range or represented colors. (Even that is perhaps less of a big deal than you might think, at least when it comes to final output.)

HDR is about the range of luminosity values that can be represented and reproduced, which is
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Can you point to some good examples of what you think is excellent processing of HDR images that does emphasize their HDR characteristics (rather than turning off or subduing those characteristics) when viewed on an HDR display?




Apr 28, 2026 at 04:40 PM
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p.2 #2 · Is HDR the future of photography?


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How did you envision technology unlocking new creative frontiers in photography?


I didn't have a clear picture in mind, just looking back and extrapolating from the invention of camera. The resulting photography and cinema did not kill or even transform painting or theater. They became distinct new art forms.

I assumed that something new would emerge from the triumpth of digital technology. For some reason it didn't happen. Every impressive image I see in 2026 would have been equally impressive (and possible!) in 1986.



Apr 28, 2026 at 05:11 PM
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p.2 #3 · Is HDR the future of photography?


It's always funny to see who is the most resistant to new ideas, though never surprising.

HDR has its place mainly in video media, but being able to present HDR stills as part of that media is interesting and exciting.

The entire premise of HDR is that it's for digital display, so to that end, it's not some end-all-be-all of photography so long as there exists physical media.

HDR-capable screens are gaining marketshare simply by being the new default for high-end phones and laptops, but it's far from ubiquitous yet.



Apr 28, 2026 at 05:33 PM
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I used to think that computers and technology in general will "unlock" new creative frontiers. The new forms of artistic expression through photography will be born, available exclusively on digital medium.

But it's not happening. The currently popular 14-bit RAW editing paired with the common wide gamut displays is already vastly more capable than a negative + darkroom print with all the tricks like preflashing, dodging, burning, and masking. And yet, the fundamentals of a good image are still the same. I don't think I've ever seen an image that works digitally but doesn't work as a print.

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I partially agree and partially do not.

I don’t think that digital technologies have radically transformed photography as an expressive medium. (Though I’ll admit that some analog photographs that registered as “great” in their day no longer seem to stand out quite the way they did at the time. But that’s a whole different thread.)

However, I do think that the modern digital methods of “capturing” and processing images into prints or other forms of display have given us a great deal of technical power that we did not have in the optical/chemical darkroom, and that’s a good thing. Heck, it revitalized my work as a photographer starting around 2000. :-)

As to the display technology, and the question of whether “HDR is the future of photography,” my responses on the thread are more about that specific question than whether advances are good and useful. To the good and useful question, yes. I’m all for advances that are possible with new technologies. But not, they are not “the future of photography” any more than a hundred other incremental steps that have moved the medium forward over its nearly 200 year history.

Am I happy to see updated screen display specifications? Sure! Will they transform our photography in major ways? Not so much. ;-)

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chiron wrote:
Can you point to some good examples of what you think is excellent processing of HDR images that does emphasize their HDR characteristics (rather than turning off or subduing those characteristics) when viewed on an HDR display?



That’s hard to do, since you typically can’t tell that these ae HDR! They just look… very good.

This was first pointed out to me by my friend Charles Cramer who said something along the lines of, “You know, Dan, that it is possible to use HDR in effective ways that don’t result in photograph with the HDR look?”180


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Never say “never,” but I doubt that a new art form is going to emerge from the most recent advances in display technology.

They are advances, but taken together they are probably more analogous to the moves from the earliest methods of producing photographs through each of the intermediate advances that happened over the next 180 years or so. The move to digital is bigger than, say, the move from glass plates to roll film — maybe more analogous to the introduction to color photography?



Apr 28, 2026 at 09:50 PM
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p.2 #5 · Is HDR the future of photography?


@gdanmitchell My best work is on film. Has always been, and still is. Not just my opinion, but my family and friends, and also here on FM: my most liked images are in the film forum. I have no idea why.

And this statement covers both the light/composition and also the technical aspect, the IQ. Somehow the colors and tonality of my film photographs digitized with the Sony A7RV are better than scenes directly captured with the same camera! I cannot explain this. Somehow the last two decades of digital progress added exactly nothing to the quality of my output. My (unproven) theory is that there's a much, much deeper relationship between effort and result.

If you make X easy, X loses value. That's why photographers don't make good money anymore. They outsoruced most of the effort to stacked-sensor high-fps video-frame-plucking auto-culling ai-trained automation and turned themselves into moist self-propelled tripods. Far less effort. Same results, and HDR is not going to improve anything, just the continuation of a trend that started long ago.

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Apr 28, 2026 at 10:08 PM
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@gdanmitchell@ My best work is on film. Has always been, and still is. Not just my opinion, but my family and friends, and also here on FM: my most liked images are in the film forum. I have no idea why.

And this statement covers both the light/composition and also the technical aspect, the IQ. Somehow the colors and tonality of my film photographs digitized with the Sony A7RV are better than scenes directly captured with the same camera! I cannot explain this. Somehow the last two decades of digital progress added exactly nothing to the quality of my output.
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For anyone who isn’t interested in these things, this will be long, so feel free to not read it if you aren’t interested.

I’ll take you at your word about the quality of your film work. I know some other folks who stick with film (John Sexton is one good example) and produce absolutely beautiful work in that medium. In his case, he has spent a lifetime developing his vision and skills with film, and why shouldn’t he stick with it? (He’s not entirely innocent of digital photography, though.)

On the other hand, there are a whole bunch of folks who built their reputations in the film era, who later transitioned to digital, and whose work using digital photographic techniques is (and is regarded as) as good or better than their film work.

the “easy” point is an interesting one. One friend of mine (he’s one of the above folks whose reputation with digital work has only grown beyond the reputation he developed with film) both love the power that digital gives him to create expressive images. (He likes o point out things that “Ansel couldn’t do.” And he worked with Ansel.) At the same time, he’ll occasionally and only half-joking say, “maybe it is just too easy now.”

I think that photographs have lost value in the current era. There are several reasons for this, I think. One is that the tools for producing photographs, specifically, have become much more readily and widely available. Today, anyone can send something off tothe print service and get back a 20” x 30” print, and at an astonishingly low cost. Powerful post-processing software lets us do things that used to be much more difficult.

But I also think there are just a lot more decent to good photographers. I made a quick comment in an earlier post about how some of the work regarded as being “great” back in the day now looks less remarkable than it did when it was first created. I think that is, in part, because there’s so much good work out there, and not all by well-known photographers.

One more thing that has contributed to the devaluing of prints: It used be that every print was a unique objects. No two were identical, and he was the result of a hands-on process. The printer (the photographer or someone else) had to execute a series of steps including dodging and burning and more that could not generally be perfectly repeated from image to image, and many photographers changed their interpretation of their prints over time. Today, I can make 50 literally identical prints of an image, with the restful that prints are no longer singular, unique objects.



Apr 28, 2026 at 10:57 PM
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The new tech consumes less power.
1) Traditional LCDs run a white backlight at full power.
2) 50% of the light is immediately thrown away (polarizer 1)
3) liquid crystals rotate polarization
4) rgb filters (2/3 of the remaining light is thrown away)
5) second polarizer throws away light that was rotated in step 2
At least 83% of the light is thrown away on the traditional LCD

For qd-oled:

1) for each subpixel blue oleds produces blue light. If the subpixel is darker the blue oled is dimmed.
2) Red quantum dot converts blue light to red for the red sub pixel
3)
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A display that is efficient can be used in SDR mode and, e.g., be calibrated so that it will not display more than 120 nits in any part of the image, which will, on the same display, likely consume less power than if is used to display a HDR image with highlights at 1000-1500 nits, for example.



Apr 29, 2026 at 02:14 AM
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Good thread and thoughtful posts, but the HDR future is likely bright..so to speak. Smartphones, AI and HDR are great friends and will evolve into mainstream features that work together to produce that wow factor in a persons casual smartphone photography. Today, few image centric websites allow for HDR, but that will change and it seems to me that even on this set of photography forums, most do not print regularly, so HDR will become a norm in the future, but for those of us that print, I’m guessing that we will find tools and a workflow that allows HDR to play nice with printed media. I bet that this conversation mimics discussions in the late forties, fifties and early sixties where if it wasn’t B&W, it wasn’t artistic.


Apr 29, 2026 at 06:04 AM
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When I got into digital photography, I remember my frustration of trying to replicate my screen’s vibrant (translucent) image into duller (reflective) print media. I would guess that adopting HDR will just add a bit more of that frustration.

Having said that, I had a chance to see Hasselblad’s new HDR capable LCD screen on the X2D II in action a couple weeks ago. Wow, that was impressive!



Apr 29, 2026 at 06:51 AM
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Yes, the X2D rear screen will make you re-evaluate everything you thought you knew and wanted from a piece of hardware


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gdanmitchell wrote:
That’s hard to do, since you typically can’t tell that these ae HDR! They just look… very good.

This was first pointed out to me by my friend Charles Cramer who said something along the lines of, “You know, Dan, that it is possible to use HDR in effective ways that don’t result in photograph with the HDR look?”

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Never say “never,” but I doubt that a new art form is going to emerge from the most recent advances in display technology.

They are advances, but taken together they are probably more analogous to the moves from the earliest methods of
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I am genuinely trying to educate myself about these issues. So I welcome any corrections or clarifications to what I say below by someone who knows more about this. But I do feel strongly that images with wildly overbright and distracting highlights and white areas are not the way to go nor are they what HDR Display technology is meant to produce. I think it may be mislabeling them, or at least misleading, to call them HDR Images

I think there is some confusion sneaking into the conversation. There is a difference between an HDR Image and an HDR Display, and there may also be such a thing as HDR Processing of an image as done in Lightroom to mimic an HDR image.

I think your friend Charles Cramer was referring to HDR images where an underexposure, correct exposure, and overexposure are combined into a single image to expand the dynamic range and show details in shadows and highlights. These HDR Images should then be tone-mapped into a different set of light values that darkens the shadows and brightens the highlights appropriately. If the tone-mappping is not done correctly, the photos will look very flat and unnatural. I think your friend Charles Cramer was referring to HDR Images that have been tone-mapped properly as those that look good but also seem as natural and as like other images in many ways but with a bit more shadow and highlight detail. It is a look that one can like or dislike or use selectively.

There is also HDR Display, which has to do with the brightness of the monitor and especially its range between highlights and blacks and the number of colors it can display. A properly exposed and tone-mapped HDR Image will look good o

n an HDR Display. So will a non-HDR Image look good on an HDR Display. Macs since about 2021 have had HDR Displays as do all recent iPhones and many other phones.

What does not look good is an HDR Image that has not been properly tone-mapped -- or an SDR Image that has been manipulated in post-processing (Lightroom or another program) -- and then is displayed on an HDR Display so that it has overbright highlights that draw the eye to the wrong parts of a scene, often minor specular highlights or white areas.

This is not really HDR. It is bad tone-mapping of an HDR Image or an attempt in post-processing to make a non-HDR Image into an HDR Image by pushing sliders or leaving highlights too bright and then putting it on an HDR Display, which the HDR Checkbox in the Devleop Module of LRC encourages one to do. This produces those glaring and distracting glows in the image.

As I said above, I welcome any corrections of something I have misstated or misunderstood. I am trying to figure this out.

But I do know that images with wildly overbright and distracting highlight is not what the technology is meant to do.



Apr 29, 2026 at 09:01 AM
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p.2 #12 · Is HDR the future of photography?


Don't make the mistake of conflating the Trey Ratcliff style amateurish exposure blending post processing method known as "HDR" with modern actual HDR capture and display. They have nothing to do with each other.


Apr 29, 2026 at 09:10 AM
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I don't even like recovering shadows and highlights too much in SDR content, I hate HDR with disdain. That “pull everything into midtones” style kills depth.


Apr 29, 2026 at 09:18 AM
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InFocus2014 wrote:
When I got into digital photography, I remember my frustration of trying to replicate my screen’s vibrant (translucent) image into duller (reflective) print media. I would guess that adopting HDR will just add a bit more of that frustration.

Having said that, I had a chance to see Hasselblad’s new HDR capable LCD screen on the X2D II in action a couple weeks ago. Wow, that was impressive!


Last week I posted something in the landscape forum with links to a talk by my friend Charles Cramer. The talk is long, but worth your time. In it, among other things, he talks about the differences between screen and print images and why you’ll likely find it difficult (or actually impossible) to make images look “the same” in both media. (There are some other fascinating things in the talk, including some reflections on how we see.)

New screen technologies won’t fix that at all, I’m afraid.

There’s obviously a place for both screen display and prints, but they are different things. It isn’t a perfect analogy, but think of the differences between a high quality audio recording that makes use of all of the capabilities of audio processing and a live performance. Or consider the difference between movies and plays performed in theaters.They will never be “the same.

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The application of the term “HDR” to monitors refers to a rather different thing than its application to photographic capture and post-processing techniques known to photographers as HDR. When done poorly it creates the kind of cliche images you are thinking of. But when it is used carefully by photographers who understand what it can really do, you would look at the resulting images and not even think “that’s HDR.”

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chiron wrote:
[I think your friend Charles Cramer was referring to HDR images where an underexposure, correct exposure, and overexposure are combined into a single image to expand the dynamic range and show details in shadows and highlights. These HDR Images should then be tone-mapped into a different set of light values that darkens the shadows and brightens the highlights appropriately. If the tone-mappping is not done correctly, the photos will look very flat and unnatural. I think your friend Charles Cramer was referring to HDR Images that have been tone-mapped properly as those that look good but also seem as natural
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It sounds like you get it. (This part and others in your post.)

When most people think of HDR photographs they are, in fact, thinking of something like those infamous Trey Ratcliff images. In this kind of work, a series of bracketed exposures are (usually automatically) blended, essentially compressing a very wide dynamic range into a much smaller space. (Some other techniques are frequently used in combination with this to create that “look.)

But the concept of combining portions of separate bracketed exposures to do things like control highlights or open shadows is more like an extension of some old darkroom techniques to avoid blown highlights or blocked shadows, but using separate exposures with higher quality raher than dodging and burning (or adjusting curves in masked areas in PS/LR).

One way to think of this is that here the source images contain a very wide range of dynamic levels from the original subject, but the image that is created has no more dynamic range than any other photograph. (When people talk about HDR monitors, they are capable of displaying images with wider dynamic ranges. What that means for human visual perception is an interesting and tricky thing.)



Apr 29, 2026 at 10:22 AM
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Obviously, the next step from HDR monitors is some sort of display technology that leverages new capabilities. Home printing on a paper medium is so 15th century (I started printing again on my new Epson 8550). I had given up on expensive inks and fiddly printers. I wonder what will capture the public's imagination in the coming years?


Apr 29, 2026 at 12:02 PM
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One way to think of this is that here the source images contain a very wide range of dynamic levels from the original subject, but the image that is created has no more dynamic range than any other photograph. (When people talk about HDR monitors, they are capable of displaying images with wider dynamic ranges. What that means for human visual perception is an interesting and tricky thing.)


Not sure what you are saying here, because I don’t understand the “tricky” part. Simply put, HDR is more capable of depicting, on an HDR monitor, what the eyes are capable of seeing. The adaptive nature of the human visual system makes human vision an ultra-HDR capable sensory system. I’ve spent so many years editing for the print that HDR can seem unnatural, but I think this is a bias given that every day vision is HDR.



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gdanmitchell wrote:
One way to think of this is that here the source images contain a very wide range of dynamic levels from the original subject, but the image that is created has no more dynamic range than any other photograph. (When people talk about HDR monitors, they are capable of displaying images with wider dynamic ranges. What that means for human visual perception is an interesting and tricky thing.)


Not sure what you are saying here, because I don’t understand the “tricky” part. Simply put, HDR is more capable of depicting, on an HDR monitor, what the eyes are capable of seeing. The adaptive nature of the human visual system makes human vision an ultra-HDR capable sensory system. I’ve spent so many years editing for the print that HDR can seem unnatural, but I think this is a bias given that every day vision is HDR. Perhaps, we are saying the same thing.



Apr 29, 2026 at 12:09 PM
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If you're interested in photography using HDR displays ( as opposed to the old-style tone mapped stuff), you can try it out yourself, if you have a modern Macbook Pro (not Air) and Lightroom. All modern Macbook Pros have industry-leading HDR displays (iPhones and some iPads do too). You just need to make sure you display profile is set correctly (typically to 1600 nits). This is also possible with some PCs, but that's out of my knowledge range.

Then go in Lightroom and in the Develop module you'll see that there's an HDR button at the top next to auto and BW. Hit it and you'll be in HDR mode with an expanded histogram. Then you can try it out on your own images to see whether it has value or not. Modern cameras have all been producing images in raw whose dynamic range exceeds normal displays. So any of your images can be potentially look different on an HDR display. You don't need to have exposure bracketed. You just need to be using a raw file.

In my , so far limited, experience it can produce the best result with images that fill the histogram in SDR mode. In particular it can help with detail in the highlights, but that's also a choice in how you do processing. Like everything, using it requires taste. It rarely helps to push your dynamic range to the max possible.

A good website with lots of info is https://gregbenzphotography.com

I don't think HDR is the future of photography, but I do think it's a future of photography. But one thing we give up with it is any hope of getting our prints to match or electronic versions. We just have to accept that they're different media.

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Apr 29, 2026 at 12:32 PM
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p.2 #19 · Is HDR the future of photography?


I have zero desire to create actual HDR image files for HDR displays, because I don't really shoot for impact on displays. Yes, I view my files on screen, and share online and such, but ultimately, my goal for my top images is print, and that will never be HDR. As such, while I will occasionally bracket for HDR tonemapping (though I generally do it to process naturally to compensate for a limited dynamic range scenario), I don't think I'll ever bother processing a file for an HDR output display.

I also think it is less effective for a still frame than for video anyway, as dynamic HDR on video works because you get the impact of bright sources, but doing so on a still image I feel would simply feel too bright and overwhelming for things like the sun in a static image.



Apr 29, 2026 at 12:34 PM
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It's not like you can retroactively process a file for HDR. That's a decision that must be made at the time of capture (though this currently feels like a software oversight, but I get that metering is a bit different because the histogram is different).


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