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p.1 #1 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Longtime Canon shoote: R5mk2, array of L lenses (including VCMs). Weddings, parties, wildlife, birds in flight, sports, 60/40 photo/video. Never explored Leica because the Canon system never left me wanting for the things I do.

I found myself at a Leica store the other day and was talking to the service rep. He asked what type of photography I did, and what my gear was. I told him, and he was refreshingly honest, saying that there probably wasn't anything in there that would outdo what I already owned for what I did. He then said, if you'd be open to a new experience, let me show you something for a style of photography you may never have tried.

He put the Q3 Monochrom in my hand and went over the controls. When he put it in my hands, my first thought was "rudimentary AF and subject tracking compared to my R5ii, lackluster video capability, can't change the lens...this is going to be the shortest test shooting I've ever done."

I took some photos of the store, and of a few customers who agreed to let me take some shots of them so I could review them on my PC when I got home (I had my R5ii with me so I used the SD card from it in the Q3M--I use CFExpress so the SD card is just a backup and is usually empty).

The photos looked great when previewed on the Q3M's LCD...but it wasn't until I got home and looked at it through Photoshop on my 4K monitor. Holy smokes. The black and white photos were just...moving for me to review. For whatever reason, because of perhaps the "limitation" of the Q3 M (no color, fixed 28mm), I must have subconsciously placed more of an emphasis on framing and composition, and the presence of light and shadow. The 60MP sensor captured so much detail, especially in the shadows. I had experimented with using Photoshop to convert color photos to black and white before and was always less than satisfied with the result. These pictures looked perfect straight out of the camera (DNG and jpegs).

I only took about 10 photos, half of the store, half of strangers...and there is just something there that makes me realize the Q3M has unlocked something different in terms of how, and what, I want to shoot. I realize that I don't do much street photography, or architectural, because in my city, I get a little self conscious carrying around a ton of Canon gear if I'm not "on a shoot". You can't do real street photography because people react differently to you when you have a large camera and lens versus a point-n-shoot camera. I never carried a P&S because I was always frustrated at the quality difference between those and my R5ii.

The Q3M would solve all of that. It also doesn't have the red Leica badge so it's less likely to attract would-be thieves as, unless you truly knew your camera gear, this looks like any other compact camera. The Q3M is also small enough that I could take it out with me almost anywhere I go, versus the thought and planning I have to put into the R5ii (e.g. what lenses to pack). That rigamarole is required when I'm on my way to a shoot (whether paid or personal). But the Q3M would be an easy grab-n-go camera for the other 98% of my life, and would take much better pictures than my iPhone. The phone is there as a backup if I really needed to capture color for some reason, but I bet I would reach for the Leica way more often than the phone when I'm just out and about.

God help me I think I'm going to buy one.



May 10, 2026 at 04:14 PM
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p.1 #2 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


There's always Only Fans. You could become a whore for Leica.


May 10, 2026 at 05:47 PM
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p.1 #3 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


I probably shouldn't tell you this because it may be bad for your wallet, but . . .

I have and love the Q3M. Yes I've also got the M11P and M11M which I mainly use with vintage lenses that I crave, but every now and then especially for street work at night, it's so so nice to have an autofocus monochrome cam with a lens that (for me at least) is perfect for street work.

If you can afford it, get it. And the more you use it the more you'll fall in love with it.

I don't need Sony level AF performance when I'm out shooting street. Instead I have the Q3M set to single point focus, look down at the LCD and put that point wherever I want, press the shutter, and the Q3M always hits its target.

As much as I love rangefinder focus with my M cams, that kind of focus is difficult for me at night. So that's mainly when the Q3M comes off the shelf. Here are recent examples. https://brick.smugmug.com/Photography/2026-3-7-Key-West-night-Q3M

Hope you get it and post!!!



May 10, 2026 at 06:17 PM
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p.1 #4 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Carlo_M wrote:
The 60MP sensor captured so much detail, especially in the shadows.

Shhhhh, some great gurus will start challenging you to do blind tests 🙃

IYKYK

I've done my fair bit of researches recently playing around with raw files from flagship bodies of different brands, and I can just summarize it with Carlo's quote above...



May 10, 2026 at 07:11 PM
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p.1 #5 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


I am not a Q-based user since I never warmed up for the fixed lens camera system. But it has advantages especially for travel when one lens is sufficient and more gear is more an obstacle than benefit. When it comes to Leica, for me it is all about the M system which fits my photography style best. But as I said, this is all very subjective.

The monochrome sensors with removed Bayer pattern are excellent. I am using the Leica monochrome M 246 which is by far not the latest monochrome camera in the stable, but it is more than sufficient for my usage, creates nice contrasty images which do not require much PP, and I can change lenses. I moved to a monochrome digital camera after many years of using B&W films (which I still use in parallel sometimes). Go for monochrome if you know that you like B&W - if you only do it sporadically, you will be better off with a color based Q-camera and then simply convert to B&W in PP.



May 10, 2026 at 07:15 PM
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p.1 #6 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Wait until you shoot it in really low light at really high ISO. You will be shocked by how well it maintains detail and image quality in such circumstances. Unmatched by any other camera brand.


May 10, 2026 at 07:31 PM
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p.1 #7 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


I’ve used my M11M at night at 50,000 and images look fantastic, not good for ISO 50,000, they look great. Q3M with the Maestro 4 processor is even slightly better


May 10, 2026 at 07:47 PM
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p.1 #8 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


The Q3M ... yeah, umm, it's got a vibe.

Two things to be aware of ... one, is rolling shutter when you get into the higher shutter speeds. Rare, but it's there a small amount.

The Summilux has a lot of distortion, natively ... but, it gets corrected in camera quite well. The other way to contend with the distortion of the 26mm (corrected = 28mm) is to shoot in the 35mm crop mode ... allowing the crop to evade the most offending areas of the distortion (edges / corners). In post, you can always resize and include everything / correct / etc. ... but, I just approach my Q3M as a 35mm version most times ... with it's crop modes being VERY solid (imo) in the 35-50 range, still good in the 75 range ... mostly due to the "deep pixels" that the lack of a bayer array filter (BFA) offer.

Imo, this makes it very versatile, in addition to its IQ. I also have the M246, which as noted above offers ILC options. Since getting the Q3M, I'm questioning to sell both the M246 and Q2.

Yeah, the Q3M ... it's kinda like picking up a scalpel after using a Buck knife all your life. There's just something 'bout it that makes you realize it is a different breed. Q2M ain't no slouch, either. If you're $$$ bargain shopping, the Q2M is a compelling case. If you're gobsmack smitten ... there's no help for you.






May 10, 2026 at 08:54 PM
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p.1 #9 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Carlo_M wrote:
Longtime Canon shoote: R5mk2, array of L lenses (including VCMs). Weddings, parties, wildlife, birds in flight, sports, 60/40 photo/video. Never explored Leica because the Canon system never left me wanting for the things I do.

I found myself at a Leica store the other day and was talking to the service rep. He asked what type of photography I did, and what my gear was. I told him, and he was refreshingly honest, saying that there probably wasn't anything in there that would outdo what I already owned for what I did. He then said, if you'd be open to a
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If it was the LA Leica store, just go back and spend more time. They're really laid back and will let you try whatever you want for pretty much as long as you want inside the store. You can go upstairs too, to the gallery and balcony space. Bring someone to photograph. Bring your laptop and look at the photos on it there. If a service rep has some time, they might be able to go outside with you for shots along the street in front of the store.

That store is all about getting people comfortable with and into the Leica ecosystem. The one guy I spent time with a while back said that as a corporate store, they don't really care if you buy it from them, B&H or used off the Buy & Sell here as it's still a sale for Leica, directly or indirectly...



May 10, 2026 at 11:29 PM
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p.1 #10 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


I freaken love the Leica store here in LA. I've spent many hours there looking at beautiful framed prints and a bunch of Leica goodies. Having said that, I haven't touched my Leica's since getting the X2DII


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p.1 #11 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


retrofocus wrote:
I am using the Leica monochrome M 246 which is by far not the latest monochrome camera in the stable, but it is more than sufficient for my usage, creates nice contrasty images which do not require much PP, and I can change lenses.


Although I use my Q3M quite a bit, like you I love my monochrome M for the ability to change lenses. My favorite lens to pair with my M11M is the Summilux 50/1.4 pre asph v 2. If you ever get a chance to use it with your M246 you'll fall in love all over again with the M system



May 11, 2026 at 06:49 AM
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brick33308 wrote:
Although I use my Q3M quite a bit, like you I love my monochrome M for the ability to change lenses. My favorite lens to pair with my M11M is the Summilux 50/1.4 pre asph v 2. If you ever get a chance to use it with your M246 you'll fall in love all over again with the M system


Heard about this lens - I own one of its predecessors, the Leitz 50/1.5 Summarit lens. Not the same, crazy bokeh but very artsy if I want to go after such look. But I agree that other vintage lenses I tested on my M 246 provided excellent results, too!



May 11, 2026 at 07:05 AM
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p.1 #13 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Wonder when the Q343M will drop?


May 11, 2026 at 07:21 AM
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p.1 #14 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Thanks for all the advice! I'm planning at least one if not two more trips back to the store this week (and yes I briefly stopped by yesterday afternoon but could only spend about 15 minutes with the camera before they closed, it was a busy Sunday). Some quick updates/answers: Apologies for not using the multi-quote, I'm answering a few people so it could get messy (and also a couple people asked variants of the same question).

1. I did briefly try the M series on my first visit. Since I've grown up with Canon, I realized while I understand the appeal of manual focus, for my shooting style, it's not for me. Part of it is, as I get older, I don't trust my ability to nail focus reliably and quickly. I want the machine to do it (and do it well). And so if I get my first Leica, it's going to be the Q3 M.

2. I did briefly try the Q3 43. What a great experience. I shot the bottom floor and upstairs, but for architectural shooting, I think I'm more than okay with the Monochrom's 28mm. I won't be waiting to see if they launch a Q3 43 Monochrom (which according to Leica Rumors is supposed to be announced within the next 12 months, but also won't be released in 2026). I also really liked Leica's color science, but I also like Canon's, so playing around with the Q3 43 convinced me that for what I want my first Leica to be (urban/street shooting, architecture, story-telling, light carry-around camera) I'm going to be going with the Q3 Monochrom. If I ever do want a quick run-n-gun color setup, I can stick a nifty-fifty on the R5ii and get pretty good results. But what the R5ii can never do is give me the black and white quality of the Q3 M.

3. The next time I visit I do plan to go with a friend, so I'll definitely be taking shots with her. She'll be my proof of concept that even though 28mm is pretty wide, I can still do some single-subject work with the Q3M.

4. Regarding the Summilux having internally corrected distortion...as long as it's done well, I just view profile correction as a fact of life now. Every resulting shot I've taken from the Q3M has had great geometry and sharpness to the corners, and I'm not seeing any negative results of the in-camera correction to my eyes, so in my view the Q3M is doing a great job of correcting.

The same criticism (reliance on profile correction) was levied at Canon's VCM line, but I've been shooting with the 20 and 35 and have loved the experience and end results. I happily sold my RF 24-70 f/2.8L IS USM after getting the VCMs and have never missed that lens.

5. Re: the slow rolling shutter/readout speed. What I'm envisioning using the camera for likely won't rely fast shutter speeds. I haven't had a chance to use it outside in the brightest light, but if I need to avoid fast shutter speeds, I'll use an ND filter. If for some reason I need to shoot videos of fast moving subjects and I don't have my R5ii with me, that's what the iPhone will be there for. I will use the Q3 M as a story-telling camera, so if I take videos with it, it will likely be more static style videos.



May 11, 2026 at 09:17 AM
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p.1 #15 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Carlo_M
Just keep in mind that the Monochrom Q does not offer phase detection since Leica's Q algorithms for Phase need color for focusing. This means the Mono focusing relies on contrast detection only whereas the color Q models combine both phase and contrast detection methods for better and more accurate auto focusing.

Ask the Leica store about this and since both cameras are available see how they differ for yourself.



May 12, 2026 at 04:30 PM
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stgrove wrote:
Carlo_M
Just keep in mind that the Monochrom Q does not offer phase detection since Leica's Q algorithms for Phase need color for focusing. This means the Mono focusing relies on contrast detection only whereas the color Q models combine both phase and contrast detection methods for better and more accurate auto focusing.

Ask the Leica store about this and since both cameras are available see how they differ for yourself.


I've been on a very deep dive in the last 96 hours so I'm more than aware that the Q3M is contrast detect only. I do not expect it to be as bulletproof as my R5mk2, but I will say that in the 2 days I took sample images, about 30-40 photos, all of them nailed focus. Now part of it is that there weren't very many moving subjects. I'm planning to go back later this week with a friend who I can test subject in motion AF. I'll never use this as a sports camera, so I won't need her to run, but more like mimicking street photography subject speeds.

I've also learned all about the Bayer filter, and what the lack of it (and the demosaicing step) and the lack of a Low Pass Filter is why I'm seeing an insane amount of details in the files. And why, even when I pushed it up to ISO 12K it looks about as clean as ISO 100.

When I go back, I'm going to try and push it to ISO 50K or 100K just to see what's up. And I also understand why even when you use software to desaturate images from the color Q3 (and other color cameras like my R5mk2), it's never going to result in the same quality as the pure luminance sensor readout of the Q3M. I've learned all about "expose to the left" or to underexpose by about a stop, to preserve highlights you don't want to lose, as opposed to exposing to the right on many color cameras.

Despite all of that, I'm still very interested in this camera. The resulting images are that appealing to my eye.



May 12, 2026 at 05:58 PM
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p.1 #17 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-24-2022/Gccl9G.mp4

If I only knew hot to upload and embed a GIF ;-)

The Leica Monochrome cameras are all that, and a bag of chips. The wisest thing for your wallet, sanity and marriage is to stay away from them! :-)



May 13, 2026 at 06:26 AM
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p.1 #18 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Leica calls it, "The Liberation of Limitation", as they had Alan Shaller with his M10M:



Are you interested in B&W or the high ISO performance? Q3 is a niche camera and mono is even more niche... In low light Q3 af is not that great although new firmware improved it, so I assume Q3 mono might need to be used in mf...

Also are you planning to use any filters, that might costs you a couple stops of light that kills the high ISO advantage eg yellow filter loss is 1 stop, red filter loss is 3 stops, etc... I am playing with B&W and how the filters are affecting the colors as somebody posted in another post:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/52828238923

Macfilos had a B&W week and had below article if you can tell the difference btw mono vs processed from color...
https://www.macfilos.com/2026/04/17/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-pure-monochrome-image-and-one-processed-from-colour/

You can check also Paul Reed, Q2/Q3 Mono user & British Photography awards winner:



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I've been on a very deep dive in the last 96 hours so I'm more than aware that the Q3M is contrast detect only. I do not expect it to be as bulletproof as my R5mk2, but I will say that in the 2 days I took sample images, about 30-40 photos, all of them nailed focus. Now part of it is that there weren't very many moving subjects. I'm planning to go back later this week with a friend who I can test subject in motion AF. I'll never use this as a sports camera, so I won't need
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May 13, 2026 at 10:26 AM
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p.1 #19 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Not to rehash everything I've written, but I'm interested in the Q3M specifically for it's monochrome capabilities. I have my Canon R5ii system for "when I'm shooting a job" (either paid or personal).

I want the Q3M for its limitations - to put me in a state of mind to shoot color and tell a story a different way than when I shoot color. I want the added resolution and much cleaner noise structure to allow me to shoot into the evenings and, apparently, nights for capturing cityscape and architecture. I want to use it as a street photography tool with a different result and feel than slapping a nifty fifty on my R5ii in an attempt to not stand out (here's what I've found out, R5ii and bigger bodies like the R1/R3 always stand out in a crowd even with a pancake lens).

And while I'm sure I could get "near native B&W" performance by converting color to B&W (but it will always sacrifice detail and not perform as well at higher ISOs), my time is valuable. The Q3Ms shots I took (and will test again twice before I buy) were excellent right out of the camera vs the results I get when I set my R5ii to monochrome. If I can save myself hours of sitting in front of Photoshop, that's money well spent.

Haven't done too much research on color filters (I understand on a superficial level what they do to monochrome shots) but I'll be mindful that I'll lose stops of light performance should I use them. To my mind, I'd primarily use them during the daytime and/or well lit settings. I'm not sure of the use case for a color filter when shooting cityscapes at night.

In summary: I know the Q3M is a niche of a niche camera. I already have an ILC that I've invested in as my "do everything else" rig. Weddings, parties, sports, birds in flight, 500mm+ for distant/fast moving wildlife, up to 8K Canon Log 2 video+VCM lenses, that's all covered. But I've gotten to the point in my life where I want something small and unique to carry around during the 98% of my life when I'm not carrying the Canon rig around, to capture life, my surroundings, and tell a story in a unique way. To be able to blend back into the scene by having a smaller, less obtrusive camera, and to force myself to capture the scene in a different way. I'm old enough where, even though I didn't grow up in the B&W era, in my youth (and later in college, when I fell in with a group of film students) I watched and admired many black and white films. The Q3M in some small yet significant way links me to those memories.



May 13, 2026 at 11:16 AM
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p.1 #20 · Just tried out the Q3 Monochrom at the Leica store, I now get it and need $8K :)


Q3 Mono beats even GFX100RF in high ISO details if you are shooting street or metro/subway like Alan Shaller or Paul Reid...

I am still practicing B&W landscapes with the OM-3 that gives full color wheel filters in B&W, so I am even using the color filters in blue hours after the sunset as I can see the image effects while taking the shot...

Monochrome Circle: In monochromatic tonality, thinking in black-and-white is key. Contrast is not achieved through colors, but through luminosity. Colored filters, for example, enhance luminosity for specific colors, so that you can boost the tonality of elements before diving into post-processing.






Carlo_M wrote:
Haven't done too much research on color filters (I understand on a superficial level what they do to monochrome shots) but I'll be mindful that I'll lose stops of light performance should I use them. To my mind, I'd primarily use them during the daytime and/or well lit settings. I'm not sure of the use case for a color filter when shooting cityscapes at night.





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