Flare1: Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 @ f/1.4, 1/60s, ISO 800
Flare2: Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 @ f/1.7, 1/30s, ISO 250
Flare3: Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 @ f/1.7, 1/40s, ISO 1600
Following 3 are from same location and about same framing and same aperture as I shoot with FE35 in as #9 in my previous report
Flare4: Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 @ f/2.8, 1/25s, ISO 1600
Flare5: Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 @ f/28, 1/40s, ISO 1600
Flare6: Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 @ f/2.8, 1/25s, ISO
It's obvious that traditional reflection (on opposite side/mirrored from image center) is gone, could not find it from any photo. However it seems that sensor layers create these weird reflections. I don't think this is bad - just different way of handling same issue.
Few "winter is ##cking ugly"-images, no flare or any other special purpose, just enjoyed shooting 1.4/35 handheld! All Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 (ZE-version) on Metabones III adapter. RAWs converted via "Iridient Developer", as my usual workflow is useless due to lack of A7/A7r support in Apple Aperture.
Thx Taylor, just happened to be getting bagels at Eltana for the family and had placed my cam in jacket pocket. It was incredibly beautiful, pics do no justice to the sunrise.
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Seems that weird way of handling strong highlights by creating local colorful veiling flare away from center of lens is functionality of A7 sensor.
Yup, I've seen it with several lenses too. But i don't mind it since everything else is so good.
Took my ZF 35/1.4 out for a little walk and it performs as good as I expected.
F/1.4, 1/30 (should have gone slower) and ISO 12800:
One thing though! The lens is so heavy that if you don't hold it with your hand while shooting, there is a visible gap between the camera mount and the adapter. So, probably not a good idea to carry this combo around your neck.
Edit: And it actually gives a lot less vignetting than on the D700, just as every other F-mount lens I've tried so far.
It seems that the best results with this camera are made when the so called "heavy" DSLR-lenses are used. Why not just use a DSLR then? Then you don't have to work with a crappy converter, the increase in size and weight is quite small and you can use the lenses on a platform for which they were designed. When I look at the pictures made with some wide-angle RF lenses, the results remind me on the Agfa Clack that my father used decades ago. These pictures also had purple and pink sides and corners.
The advantages in size and weight that were important aspects of using the A7r hardly exist when there are not enough dedicated lenses available. For now it is just a disabled system that might deliver in future, but that's certainly not the case at this moment.
Makten wrote:
Yup, I've seen it with several lenses too. But i don't mind it since everything else is so good.
And lack of reflection of another side of image center is missing - so this can be also good thing.
Makten wrote:
One thing though! The lens is so heavy that if you don't hold it with your hand while shooting, there is a visible gap between the camera mount and the adapter. So, probably not a good idea to carry this combo around your neck.
Hmmm, I have to twist mine to see the visible cab while holding camera in air against lamp. Maybe these are so fragile that I have to change my bad camera carrying habits. This far I have carried either from hanging from D-loops in camera backbag shoulds OR attached to tripod, which I carry in hand or on top of my shoulder - never had any issues with 5DmkII or 1DmkIII even I have hiked thousands of kilometers this way.
It seems every damn time I put camera to backbag I walk 10 meters and see something I want to shoot...
Makten wrote:
Edit: And it actually gives a lot less vignetting than on the D700, just as every other F-mount lens I've tried so far.
Now you mention it; yes as far as I remember 1.4/35 vignettes quite lot more in 5DmkII as well than it did in A7.
I don't know, I'm not finding it a disabled system with small lenses. I'm really starting to like the results I'm getting with rangefinder glass actually.
Unfortunately all I have around to shoot are frozen rocks right now!
wiseguy010 wrote:
It seems that the best results with this camera are made when the so called "heavy" DSLR-lenses are used. Why not just use a DSLR then? Then you don't have to work with a crappy converter, the increase in size and weight is quite small and you can use the lenses on a platform for which they were designed. When I look at the pictures made with some wide-angle RF lenses, the results remind me on the Agfa Clack that my father used decades ago. These pictures also had purple and pink sides and corners.
The advantages in size and weight that were important aspects of using the A7r hardly exist when there are not enough dedicated lenses available. For now it is just a disabled system that might deliver in future, but that's certainly not the case at this moment.
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Size is secondary reason for me, thou important since I want 3 camera bodies to my backbag; ~28, ~50, 135. For sure some people dream of small fullframe with small high performing lenses, but people also dream winning lottery... Maybe the best reasons for Canon guys is the Sony sensor & EVF (no need to use LCDVF or other device to make Live view handheld shootable) - and for Nikon guys to have proper live view without line skipping, EVF and better lens adaptability.
Also A7 makes my weird hobby of collecting (and of course shooting) all kind of ~50mm lenses. Really waiting for to find Canon FD 50/1.2L, Rokkor 58/1.2 etc. which were hard/impossible to adapt to fullframe EOS.
wiseguy010 wrote:
It seems that the best results with this camera are made when the so called "heavy" DSLR-lenses are used. Why not just use a DSLR then? Then you don't have to work with a crappy converter, the increase in size and weight is quite small and you can use the lenses on a platform for which they were designed. When I look at the pictures made with some wide-angle RF lenses, the results remind me on the Agfa Clack that my father used decades ago. These pictures also had purple and pink sides and corners.
The advantages in size and weight that were important aspects of using the A7r hardly exist when there are not enough dedicated lenses available. For now it is just a disabled system that might deliver in future, but that's certainly not the case at this moment.
But I don't want to use the dslr lenses on a dslr, at least the body is half the size.The fun is to use them again on a FF body with an ingreadable sensor and a fantastic viewinder to focus quiet fast accuratly.
I don't feel disabled at all with this camera, on the contrary!
FWIW a lot of dslr lenses are not so big at all and balance very well on the A7's.
wiseguy010 wrote:
It seems that the best results with this camera are made when the so called "heavy" DSLR-lenses are used. Why not just use a DSLR then? Then you don't have to work with a crappy converter, the increase in size and weight is quite small and you can use the lenses on a platform for which they were designed.
If you want the best possible IQ from the specific sensor size; yes, you'll probably have to use SLR lenses below 50 mm. But who said everyone wants that? And what about the total weight and size of the system? Let me just take an example of gear that I have used and use:
Yeah, the adapter weighs a little bit too, but it's still close to half the weight in total. And I get a viewfinder that lets me focus accurately at any distance and any aperture. And a tilting screen.
For now it is just a disabled system that might deliver in future, but that's certainly not the case at this moment.
coffeeshakes wrote:
I don't know, I'm not finding it a disabled system with small lenses. I'm really starting to like the results I'm getting with rangefinder glass actually.
Unfortunately all I have around to shoot are frozen rocks right now!
Zeiss ZM 18/4, A7R
Nice image, I can see a little color shift but how are the corners? Any smearing?
Most lack decent focus aids, need micro-adjust, are huge, frighten human subjects, need a larger bag, stronger tripod/head, weigh 1000 grams, feel like a flotation device.
'Then you don't have to work with a crappy converter'
like LR/ACR?
'the increase in size and weight is quite small and you can use the lenses on a platform for which they were designed.'
Most/many lenses AA folks are using were designed for film SLRs that were similar size/weight to the a7 series. Moreover, you can never mount a light lens and get the same payload on a 1000 gram Nikon monster DSLR. Zeiss FE lenses will never fit yesterday's cameras like a D800 or 5D.
'When I look at the pictures made with some wide-angle RF lenses, the results remind me on the Agfa Clack that my father used decades ago. These pictures also had purple and pink sides and corners.'
Even provocateurs do not need to go far to see really nice images shot on excellent wide angle lenses - scroll up.
'The advantages in size and weight that were important aspects of using the A7r hardly exist when there are not enough dedicated lenses available. For now it is just a disabled system that might deliver in future, but that's certainly not the case at this moment.'
I haven't used a 'dedicated lens' in many years, are they as good as the best available by any maker? Leica or Contax Zeiss? CV? Pentax?
'Disabled system'? - 'systems' do not deliver fine imagery, cameras and lenses do. Sadly CN users only have the limit case of their own lenses and not much else - they look disabled, but a7(r) users can mount hundreds of lenses anytime they want, the best ever made. Their choice, not the makers. Consumer sovereignty returns with the FE cameras, what a novel and wonderful idea.
Some more with the A7. First one is with the FD 50/1.4, next two with the FD 85/1.8 and last two with the FD 135mm f/2. I'll tell you, the 135/2 is very good on m4/3 and APS-C, and works really well on the Speed Booster too, but it's stunning on the A7.
Here are 5 images that I took this evening just before and at sunset at Lock Ridge Park, Alburtis, PA. Images taken with my A7r and my Leica R 35mm-70mm f4 Vario Elmar; lens set to about f11 for many images for DOF. Images processed in LR5.3RC.
Jman13 wrote:
Some more with the A7. First one is with the FD 50/1.4, next two with the FD 85/1.8 and last two with the FD 135mm f/2. I'll tell you, the 135/2 is very good on m4/3 and APS-C, and works really well on the Speed Booster too, but it's stunning on the A7.
So, probably not a good idea to carry this combo around your neck. 
