p.18 #1 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Hi Dave,
The Pelicans in slow motion look good and the super-slow-motion footage looks fabulous, great job! I tried that method using Warp Stabilizer in Davinci Studio this morning and it works great. Thanks for the tip.
Rudy
Thank You Rudy!
Did you mean Speed Warp instead of Warp Stabilizer?
I could not find that on DR but saw posts about it in Adobe premier.
Dave
p.18 #2 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
dj63401 wrote:
Thank You Rudy!
Did you mean Speed Warp instead of Warp Stabilizer?
I could not find that on DR but saw posts about it in Adobe premier.
Dave
Whoops, yes Dave, my mistake.... should have been Speed Warp.
Rudy
p.18 #3 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
RustyRus wrote:
New C80- Loving it so far-
Going to do some testing with Leica Lenses vs the Canon variants-
Can't wait to see what resulting footage you get from that C80!
Because of work and birthdays (for some reason a half dozen important people in my life have them all in February!) I've had to step away from recreational photography. I should have some time starting this weekend.
I did gift myself a new gimbal: the DJI RS4 Mini which just came out, purchased it over the weekend. It's definitely got a learning curve, learning how to balance and use it, but we'll see how I get on with it this weekend. Early clips around the home have turned out better than I expected in terms of smoothness. I usually shoot with IBIS on but Digital IS off, and a gimbal obviously provides way smoother footage.
The only dilemma I have now is it's a bit of a hassle getting the camera on/off the gimbal (unless the quick release Smallrig attachment for the RS3 mini will fit for the RS4) that now I want a dedicated body just attached to the gimbal at all times! First world problems
In all seriousness, the Sony FX30 is 2 1/2 years old. If they release a mk2 in the next year at the same sub-$2K range, it will be really tempting to buy one and a nice prime lens (24mm? 35mm?) and just leave that on the gimbal at all times.
p.18 #5 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Carlo_M wrote:
Can't wait to see what resulting footage you get from that C80!
Because of work and birthdays (for some reason a half dozen important people in my life have them all in February!) I've had to step away from recreational photography. I should have some time starting this weekend.
I did gift myself a new gimbal: the DJI RS4 Mini which just came out, purchased it over the weekend. It's definitely got a learning curve, learning how to balance and use it, but we'll see how I get on with it this weekend. Early clips around the home have turned out better than I expected in terms of smoothness. I usually shoot with IBIS on but Digital IS off, and a gimbal obviously provides way smoother footage.
The only dilemma I have now is it's a bit of a hassle getting the camera on/off the gimbal (unless the quick release Smallrig attachment for the RS3 mini will fit for the RS4) that now I want a dedicated body just attached to the gimbal at all times! First world problems
In all seriousness, the Sony FX30 is 2 1/2 years old. If they release a mk2 in the next year at the same sub-$2K range, it will be really tempting to buy one and a nice prime lens (24mm? 35mm?) and just leave that on the gimbal at all times....Show more →
Hi Carlo,
I watched the launch of the DJI RS4 mini gimbal the other day. It looks amazing. Let us know how you like it and how it works compared to the RS3 mini. Is it easier or harder to balance?
p.18 #6 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Things are moving forward quickly in the video department at my house!
When I made my first introductory post in this new forum 2 months ago on January 1, 2025, I was using a 13-year old HD monitor, I was not shooting in log, and was using the free version of Resolve which can't import log files without it first being transcoded (a big pain in the petootie).
I'm happy to report that as of yesterday all three of these deficiencies have been rectified: I recently bought a good-quality, colour-accurate 4K monitor, I just bought Davinci Resolve Studio 19 on sale, and with the Studio version I am now able to import and edit canon log footage without the hassle of having to transcoded every file. Yeah!
Great news Rudy, congrats! Great tools make the process much easier.
Forcing myself to get my video test edit completed in Davinci opened a huge can of worms for me. Basically, for the last couple weeks I've started moving 4+ years worth of footage around between hard drives to organize it all. I was living in the photo mindset with the cull photo -> import process thinking I would someday import all my video footage too. Well, I was wrong. I manage a massive spreadsheet that tracks where all my shoots are backed up so I've always been organized in that sense, but I never thought about consolidating all my video footage based on "projects" in one location where they will live forever. Photos don't matter because they eventually get imported to LR. But for my video files, as an example, one of my projects consists of 16 shoots over 9 months in many different locations. While running and gunning I just made sure to back them all up but not all necessarily on the same SSD, as I have tons of them. So I'm in the process of moving terabytes of data around to make sure all my video projects are consolidated in one location. And all while doing this I decided to rename all my photo shoots with the same nomenclature starting with "YYYY.MM.DD - Subject - Location". I'm about halfway done but it's starting to feel very refreshing that I can sort/filter it all nicely in excel and I can go back many years to search for something very easily. Luckily my entries were already input into excel, so it just requires a massive cleanup to move/consolidate everything and rename all my folders and entries. I'm just thankful my computers work all night while I sleep
p.18 #7 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Hi Carlo,
I watched the launch of the DJI RS4 mini gimbal the other day. It looks amazing. Let us know how you like it and how it works compared to the RS3 mini. Is it easier or harder to balance?
Rudy
Will do, but some caveats.
1. This is my first gimbal. Like ever. So balancing it was a bit of a learning curve but now I think I've got everything squared away. It being my first ever gimbal, I can't compare it to any previous one as I have no reference point.
2. Just some quick "around the home" videos (which I won't post because I hadn't cleaned up the place lol) has me very impressed with the performance. I didn't want to ever use Digital IS on my R5ii because I didn't like the crop factor, and the delay in the image going to the LCD the Digital IS introduced (it was like the footage on the LCD was 1/4 second behind what I was actually filming), but I also recognized how much more stable the Digital IS result was vs. just standard IBIS--which the R5ii was no slouch. Well it turns out, nothing beats a gimbal. Yes you pay for it in that it's another thing to have to carry around (which is why I went with the mini) but once you see the results of a gimbal in motion, not even the R5ii's IBIS+Digital IS will compete.
3. I find conflicting information on whether I should keep IBIS on while using a gimbal. A lot of people/sites say no. Others say "it can in some cases be better to leave it on". When I'm shooting video I'm using the 35mm VCM so there's no lens IS, but I haven't yet disable IBIS on the camera and the resulting footage has looked good. On my next test clips I'll turn IBIS off and see if that makes a difference.
4. You *absolutely* need an external monitor for any gimbal shooting that's not at or near eye-level. And with the mini there just isn't room to put it on top of the camera, not if you're doing any meaningful rotation. So I just ordered this so I can side-mount (and rotate up to 165 degrees) my Shinobi II and also attach the Rode VideoMic Pro to get better audio than the onboard mic. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DBYPDP5V
5. If you're going to buy a DJI RS gimbal, in my opinion the Intelligent Tracking Module is a must-have.
A lot of sites say "it's great for solo shooters" which, of course it is. But also when shooting subjects you can have them raise their hands and activate the tracker and it will keep them in frame, and then you can couple that with the various settings on the R5ii to determine how "locked on" AF is on the subject, and if you want to go next level, program the subject's face in the R5ii's memory and so the gimbal will keep them in the frame and the R5ii will always know which face to focus on.
p.18 #8 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Four Immature Bald Eagle Clips. First is an overachiever. It catches a fish, climbs, transfers it talon to beak, and eats it on the fly. Then turns and goes down and gets another fish. Second is a fly in with beautiful morning light on wings. Third is diving to catch a fish, you can see its feathers ruffling in the turbulent air helping break the wind, and it then catches a fish. Last is a fairly close fly-by showing its colors on its wings in morning light. I really enjoy seeing all the different markings and colors of the immature Bald Eagles as they mature, heading to adulthood with full white head and tail at 5 years old.
Captured below Lock and Dam 22 on the Mississippi River near Saverton, MO on Jan 25, 2025.
Canon R5 MKII RF200-800 4k 120 fps Shot from top A-frame ladder using bean-bag support to clear 8 foot fence around Lock and Dam area.
p.18 #9 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
dj63401 wrote:
Four Immature Bald Eagle Clips. First is an overachiever. It catches a fish, climbs, transfers it talon to beak, and eats it on the fly. Then turns and goes down and gets another fish. Second is a fly in with beautiful morning light on wings. Third is diving to catch a fish, you can see its feathers ruffling in the turbulent air helping break the wind, and it then catches a fish. Last is a fairly close fly-by showing its colors on its wings in morning light. I really enjoy seeing all the different markings and colors of the immature Bald Eagles as they mature, heading to adulthood with full white head and tail at 5 years old.
Captured below Lock and Dam 22 on the Mississippi River near Saverton, MO on Jan 25, 2025.
Canon R5 MKII RF200-800 4k 120 fps Shot from top A-frame ladder using bean-bag support to clear 8 foot fence around Lock and Dam area....Show more →
Wonderful video, David with really nice tracking. Great details and colours and perfect music!
Cheers,
Rudy
p.18 #10 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Carlo_M wrote:
Will do, but some caveats.
1. This is my first gimbal. Like ever. So balancing it was a bit of a learning curve but now I think I've got everything squared away. It being my first ever gimbal, I can't compare it to any previous one as I have no reference point.
2. Just some quick "around the home" videos (which I won't post because I hadn't cleaned up the place lol) has me very impressed with the performance. I didn't want to ever use Digital IS on my R5ii because I didn't like the crop factor, and the delay in the image going to the LCD the Digital IS introduced (it was like the footage on the LCD was 1/4 second behind what I was actually filming), but I also recognized how much more stable the Digital IS result was vs. just standard IBIS--which the R5ii was no slouch. Well it turns out, nothing beats a gimbal. Yes you pay for it in that it's another thing to have to carry around (which is why I went with the mini) but once you see the results of a gimbal in motion, not even the R5ii's IBIS+Digital IS will compete.
3. I find conflicting information on whether I should keep IBIS on while using a gimbal. A lot of people/sites say no. Others say "it can in some cases be better to leave it on". When I'm shooting video I'm using the 35mm VCM so there's no lens IS, but I haven't yet disable IBIS on the camera and the resulting footage has looked good. On my next test clips I'll turn IBIS off and see if that makes a difference.
4. You *absolutely* need an external monitor for any gimbal shooting that's not at or near eye-level. And with the mini there just isn't room to put it on top of the camera, not if you're doing any meaningful rotation. So I just ordered this so I can side-mount (and rotate up to 165 degrees) my Shinobi II and also attach the Rode VideoMic Pro to get better audio than the onboard mic. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DBYPDP5V
5. If you're going to buy a DJI RS gimbal, in my opinion the Intelligent Tracking Module is a must-have.
A lot of sites say "it's great for solo shooters" which, of course it is. But also when shooting subjects you can have them raise their hands and activate the tracker and it will keep them in frame, and then you can couple that with the various settings on the R5ii to determine how "locked on" AF is on the subject, and if you want to go next level, program the subject's face in the R5ii's memory and so the gimbal will keep them in the frame and the R5ii will always know which face to focus on. ...Show more →
Hi Calro,
I'm one step away from pulling the trigger on this gimbal. I would appreciate any updates and findings you discover about this unit. Any issues, problems, weird stuff, etc?
Can you mount this gimbal on a regulay photography tripod and have it track from there?
p.18 #11 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
artsupreme wrote:
Great news Rudy, congrats! Great tools make the process much easier.
Forcing myself to get my video test edit completed in Davinci opened a huge can of worms for me. Basically, for the last couple weeks I've started moving 4+ years worth of footage around between hard drives to organize it all. I was living in the photo mindset with the cull photo -> import process thinking I would someday import all my video footage too. Well, I was wrong. I manage a massive spreadsheet that tracks where all my shoots are backed up so I've always been organized in that sense, but I never thought about consolidating all my video footage based on "projects" in one location where they will live forever. Photos don't matter because they eventually get imported to LR. But for my video files, as an example, one of my projects consists of 16 shoots over 9 months in many different locations. While running and gunning I just made sure to back them all up but not all necessarily on the same SSD, as I have tons of them. So I'm in the process of moving terabytes of data around to make sure all my video projects are consolidated in one location. And all while doing this I decided to rename all my photo shoots with the same nomenclature starting with "YYYY.MM.DD - Subject - Location". I'm about halfway done but it's starting to feel very refreshing that I can sort/filter it all nicely in excel and I can go back many years to search for something very easily. Luckily my entries were already input into excel, so it just requires a massive cleanup to move/consolidate everything and rename all my folders and entries. I'm just thankful my computers work all night while I sleep ...Show more →
Brett,
Wow, 4+ years of footage is quite a stash! Knowing your dedication to excellence I'm dying to see what you've shot in all these many locations. I'm sure your videos will be awesome!
p.18 #12 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Wonderful video, David with really nice tracking. Great details and colours and perfect music!
Cheers,
Rudy
Thanks Rudy!
I seem do a better job tracking with the beanbag than with the Monopod. Of course a tripod is better, but no way to use one to clear the darn fencing at the Lock and Dam!
Dave
p.18 #13 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Hi Carlo,
I'm one step away from pulling the trigger on this gimbal. I would appreciate any updates and findings you discover about this unit. Any issues, problems, weird stuff, etc?
Can you mount this gimbal on a regulay photography tripod and have it track from there?
Thanks,
Rudy
(fixed my name )
I'm a bit swamped at work this week but I'll try to put some use into it on the evenings. So far, in very limited use, no weirdness or issues. You do have to register/activate it via app on phone though so do be aware of that.
With regards to using a regular tripod: I assume you can. It comes with a mini tripod attachment at the bottom, which sadly is just out of frame in that video I posted, but if I had panned down just a little bit you'd see the mini tripod feet splayed out. It attaches to the bottom of the gimbal handle by the standard screw thread (at least to my eyes it looks like the standard screw thread, not a proprietary DJI connector of any sort). If my guess is correct (that it's the standard sized screw) then it should work on a normal tripod. I looked at the PDF manual online and it doesn't say what kind of screw thread is used. When I get home, I'll see if a standard quick release plate that came with my Manfrotto ball head attaches to the bottom of the gimbal handle and let you know.
p.18 #14 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
How do White Pelicans stay warm in zero degree weather? They huddle very close together on the bank of a warm water ditch that goes into the Mississippi River. Just above Lock and Dam 21 at Quincy, IL on February 21, 2025. This is at 8am, and it got to zero overnight.
p.18 #15 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
dj63401 wrote:
How do White Pelicans stay warm in zero degree weather? They huddle very close together on the bank of a warm water ditch that goes into the Mississippi River. Just above Lock and Dam 21 at Quincy, IL on February 21, 2025. This is at 8am, and it got to zero overnight.
Very interesting, Dave. I didn't know that about Pelicans, but then again being a Norther Boy I don't know anything about them.
p.18 #16 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Rudy Pohl wrote:
Very interesting, Dave. I didn't know that about Pelicans, but then again being a Norther Boy I don't know anything about them.
Cheers,
Rudy
Thanks Rudy!
I have never seen them like this before.
Seen them grouped in water early in the morning, but not this many.
I did add 3 stills which have more detail on my Facebook page post if you or anyone is interested in seeing them. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1524195151
Dave
p.18 #17 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Carlo_M wrote:
(fixed my name )
I'm a bit swamped at work this week but I'll try to put some use into it on the evenings. So far, in very limited use, no weirdness or issues. You do have to register/activate it via app on phone though so do be aware of that.
With regards to using a regular tripod: I assume you can. It comes with a mini tripod attachment at the bottom, which sadly is just out of frame in that video I posted, but if I had panned down just a little bit you'd see the mini tripod feet splayed out. It attaches to the bottom of the gimbal handle by the standard screw thread (at least to my eyes it looks like the standard screw thread, not a proprietary DJI connector of any sort). If my guess is correct (that it's the standard sized screw) then it should work on a normal tripod. I looked at the PDF manual online and it doesn't say what kind of screw thread is used. When I get home, I'll see if a standard quick release plate that came with my Manfrotto ball head attaches to the bottom of the gimbal handle and let you know....Show more →
Thanks Carlo - keep me posted, also sorry about misspelling your name.
Cheers,
p.18 #18 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Carlo_M wrote:
Will do, but some caveats.
1. This is my first gimbal. Like ever. So balancing it was a bit of a learning curve but now I think I've got everything squared away. It being my first ever gimbal, I can't compare it to any previous one as I have no reference point.
2. Just some quick "around the home" videos (which I won't post because I hadn't cleaned up the place lol) has me very impressed with the performance. I didn't want to ever use Digital IS on my R5ii because I didn't like the crop factor, and the delay in the image going to the LCD the Digital IS introduced (it was like the footage on the LCD was 1/4 second behind what I was actually filming), but I also recognized how much more stable the Digital IS result was vs. just standard IBIS--which the R5ii was no slouch. Well it turns out, nothing beats a gimbal. Yes you pay for it in that it's another thing to have to carry around (which is why I went with the mini) but once you see the results of a gimbal in motion, not even the R5ii's IBIS+Digital IS will compete.
3. I find conflicting information on whether I should keep IBIS on while using a gimbal. A lot of people/sites say no. Others say "it can in some cases be better to leave it on". When I'm shooting video I'm using the 35mm VCM so there's no lens IS, but I haven't yet disable IBIS on the camera and the resulting footage has looked good. On my next test clips I'll turn IBIS off and see if that makes a difference.
4. You *absolutely* need an external monitor for any gimbal shooting that's not at or near eye-level. And with the mini there just isn't room to put it on top of the camera, not if you're doing any meaningful rotation. So I just ordered this so I can side-mount (and rotate up to 165 degrees) my Shinobi II and also attach the Rode VideoMic Pro to get better audio than the onboard mic. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DBYPDP5V
5. If you're going to buy a DJI RS gimbal, in my opinion the Intelligent Tracking Module is a must-have.
A lot of sites say "it's great for solo shooters" which, of course it is. But also when shooting subjects you can have them raise their hands and activate the tracker and it will keep them in frame, and then you can couple that with the various settings on the R5ii to determine how "locked on" AF is on the subject, and if you want to go next level, program the subject's face in the R5ii's memory and so the gimbal will keep them in the frame and the R5ii will always know which face to focus on.
I use quite a bit an RS3 Pro, I did some extensive testing as I do some high vibration works like gimbal on back pack on a motor bike and all tests prove that IS on is better than off. So for me is always ES off, IS on.
My suggestion is to have the LCD flipped out and use that and not a monitor, it just creates a franken monster and the cables, battery, weight is just a pita. Is my personal experience I started out with external screen and I realized is more inconvenient that what it helps. You can also use your iphone as usb-c or even wifi in case that you need it works quite a ok, with the cable latency is better.
This no more:
But this (and now with the R5 II no more external battery needed that is even better):
On the balancing not sure about the RS4 Mini as it has weaker motors than the Pro models but don't lose you head in balancing perfectly an approximation also work fine. I use the RS3 Pro with the RF 70-200 2.8 and you can imaging that zoomed in and zoomed out it changes a lot the balance but I have zero problem, it just uses a bit more battery.
p.18 #19 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
@action99 Sorry, terminology may be a little different between our camera models so I want to make sure I understand your recommendation.
Your testing indicate I should leave the camera's in-body stabilization (what I refer to as IBIS but I think you're referring to as IS) on, but turn off Digital Imaging Stabilization (that's what it's called in the R5mk2 menu but I think this is what you're referring to as ES)?
I primarily use the 1.4 VCM for video which doesn't have IS in the lens. I wonder if you've ever used a lens with IS in it (for example I may try using my 24-70 2.8 L IS for video some day on the RS4 mini) and if so, do you leave the IS on the lens on as well as the camera in body IS?
p.18 #20 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Carlo_M wrote:
@action99@ Sorry, terminology may be a little different between our camera models so I want to make sure I understand your recommendation.
Your testing indicate I should leave the camera's in-body stabilization (what I refer to as IBIS but I think you're referring to as IS) on, but turn off Digital Imaging Stabilization (that's what it's called in the R5mk2 menu but I think this is what you're referring to as ES)?
I primarily use the 1.4 VCM for video which doesn't have IS in the lens. I wonder if you've ever used a lens with IS in it (for example I may try using my 24-70 2.8 L IS for video some day on the RS4 mini) and if so, do you leave the IS on the lens on as well as the camera in body IS?...Show more →
Sorry my bad I should have been more clear.
I never use Digital Imaging Stabilization for two reasons, the first being that I mostly shoot RAW and the second I can always do it in post in Resolve with the amount that I need.
As you cannot control lens optical stabilization (for the ones that have it) and IBIS independently, I have better result with on in all cases, so for lenses that have optical stabilization they will use both IS and IBIS and for lenses that do not have IS will be only IBIS.
Lenses that I use on the gimbal:
RF 16 2.8 (non IS)
RF 14-35 4 (IS)
RF 24-105 STM (IS)
RF 28-70 2.0 (non IS)
RF 70-200 2.8 (IS)
I feel that the IS ones (in lens optical stabilization) are better in removing jitters in high frequency situation like motorbikes.
Btw IBIS in Canon when off is hold in place with magnets so is not fully locked unfortunately, so on big bumps it may be worst that with IBIS on anyway.
