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RustyBug wrote:
Thanks guys ... always appreciate the varied perspectives you bring to the table. 
Points of consideration from my end (no particular order).
X2D / X2D II ... superb camera. I enjoyed using my X1D II and upgraded to the X2D. Form factor / grip doesn't jive with me the way the former X1D II did. While I totally dig on the files, I don't get the same physical interface satisfaction when using it. Gordon's point (a while back) that the files from the SL3 are dang close, has me accepting the notion that I'm probably better off to not further invest into the Hassy ... since the L mount is my long glass (Siggy 500/5.6) and is going to remain in the fold (not going to Sony / Nikon / Canon for this) for the foreseeable future. As much as it tugs at me to do so ... particularly the HNCS Hassy brings to the table ... the Hassy is "expendable".
On the subject of the other "expendables" ... my M246 and Q2 ... they birthed the Q3M, which I'm finding it serves me well for certain work. So, while it may be a niche camera, it has captured my attention. I sorta think about the $$$ of a Q2M instead, but I'm not compelled to move away from the Q3M once I liberate the M246 and Q2 from the stable.
So, that's the framing that is leaving me with the M10R / SL2-S / Q3M perspective that I opened the OP with ... just as backstory / fyi.
The mention of the SL3-P is an interesting introduction that I hadn't considered. On the matter of the SL2-S ... it is of course my L mount for my long glass. 24MP is "okay", but more would be welcome. Do I need 61 MP in the SL3 ... hmmm, the SL3-P could be viable in terms of MP. Also, since this is the body that combines color / AG, it is likely to be my "event" body (as has been the SL2-S. For that reason as well, the color (referring to my fondness of HNCS) / MP demands aren't necessary as to the SL3 / X2D level, so it could be on the radar (just the "new" means $$$ / longer wait ... which is tolerable, if not desirable). Will watch this one a bit, I think. $5K for a used SL3 vs. $?K for the SL3-P ... something to watch for.
The M10R vs. M11-P (or M11). If I were to go the SL3-P route above, the extra M11 variant lands in the spot that the Hassy would have held (color / MP). Could I stick with the M10R ...could. But, when I put the M10R files vs. the Hassy files, the Hassy files (for my use case of pushing things) revealed better than the M10R ... i.e. showed a limitation in the M10R ... thus, consideration for the M10R to move to M11. Again, this is in context of which other camera I have (Hassy / SL3 / SL3-P). 40 MP is sufficient for many things, so it's not necessarily the MP count (which puts the SL3-P in play), but the way the colors handle my PP push (when I do). Essentially this boils down to which one tolerates my PP pushing better (M10R / M11 / SL3 variant / Hassy) ... with the Hassy coming off the table.
As to glass, L mount is 500/5.6, 85/1.8 and 24-70/2.8. Although, I'm not fond of carrying the 24-70 ... mostly use it for event stuff. The 85/1.8 seems well suited to me. Otherwise, I mostly use my M glass on the SL body, but even there I'll mount up my M 75 instead. Head to head IQ testing of the two are within spitting distance on one another for my needs. IBIS and pixel shift tripod stitching are also part of the consideration for the L + M glass (24mm - 135mm range currently).
From the input (so far) ... the SL3-P ... is an interesting proposition to consider.
That would look like:
Q3M - Max Mono IQ
M11 (variant) - Max Color IQ
SL3-P - Event / wildlife / sport / AF (when desired) jack of all trades
I've often said that ... IF ... I had to live with ONLY one camera, it would be the SL3 (L + M glass). The SL3-P could challenge that perspective a bit, to sit in the utilitarian space of a Swiss Army knife.
Hmmm, SL3-P + Q3M ... could that be a two body kit 
Essentially, keeping the M10R, and making the move to the SL3-P.
That said, I don't see a use case for carrying three bodies, but I do carry different pairings at times (particularly when a "niche" body is in play) when I don't want to swap lenses much, so an outing could look like any combo of:
Q3M + SL3 / -P
Q3M + M (10R / 11)
SL3 / -P + M (10R / 11)
NOTE: The Panny version of the S1R II (viable consideration) ... I use M glass, prefer the SL sensor stack and battery commonality with Q series.
Anyway, that's some of where my headspace is on things ... appreciate the input thus far. Will appreciate more, as well.
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Based on the lenses you listed, if you had to upgrade, I'd definitely go with an SL3-S or the upcoming P version. I have the M11 and SL3-S, I can tell the SL3-S APO lenses are better than most of my M APO lenses even when comparing 24mp to 61mp. There is more room to crop on the higher MP sensor but when comparing apples to apples, good L-mount glass is just better in terms of details and rendering.
The reason I say SL3-S though is the better AF and IBIS is noticeable vs my experience with the Leica Q3 variants. On the M-mount, I think the only reason to move from the M10R to the M11 is if you're doing a lot of landscapes and want the dynamic range improvement from the sony sensor.
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), but I do wonder whether it makes sense to be debating an M / SL upgrade in isolation.
