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p.5 #1 · The 85 1.4D thread


Blakehfreeman wrote:
Great shot... learn to ignore some people.. or use the mute feature on here . Happy shooting!



For my part, I don't think I was too offensive. And of course I wasn't rude to him.

If these postings of mine are a reason for you to ignore me, feel free to do so. You must have quite a boring forum experience, with only about 2 out of every 1000 posts, if you ignore everything slightly critical...



Aug 11, 2020 at 02:49 AM
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p.5 #2 · The 85 1.4D thread


Great image! Very nice sharpness and rendering from the cream machine! I would also shoot your subject at F1.4 all day and not blink an out of focus eye!


GiovanniAprea wrote:
Don't tell me you never shoot wide open? I mean, I have the f1.8G version and it's a nice lens, great value for the money, found out that for my kind of shooting f2.2-3.2 works the best but once I have that extra stop of course I am gonna use it, at least to satisfy the sacrifice I made to get the lens...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50211738842_e6a6d51702_h.jpg





Aug 11, 2020 at 07:46 AM
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p.5 #3 · The 85 1.4D thread


Evening walk



























Aug 16, 2020 at 10:38 PM
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p.5 #4 · The 85 1.4D thread


Kry27 wrote:
Thanks again for the additional shot (which I prefer).

To be honest: I seldom shoot / shot this lens wide open, the longer I have it, the less. Let me explain:

- I shot it mostly on my D3. As stated often, I could shoot a long time only with this camera and a 2 lens setup, this AF 85/1.4D and the AF 28/1.4D that complement each other nicely.
- The bokeh, background blur, is wonderful at f/1.4, and there are situations where one does not (or hardly) sacrifice anything when shooting wide open - full body shots, so just from a little
...Show more

Ciao Try,

the 85/1.4D was a long time dream lens of mine, if I could I'd like to add the 58/1.4 and a 35 which I have never had but this has not much to do with the above, as a matter of fact I am an amateur photographer (whoever holds a camera has become a photographer so I can apply that rule to myself), I make no money out of it and I like to experiment, of course aperture affects the result depending on many circumstances, in my case not being the eyes facing me of course the further one would be out of focus but won't change much till stopped down to f3ish or harrower so, as you can tell from the two shots above, I did of course try different apertures (and surprisingly the subject could throw the same exact smile each and every time) and I mostly concentrated on how the aperture affects the background rather than the subject, I know that at those close distances it is hard to keep it all in decent focus but I am experimenting to find out what's the sweet spot for my kind of shooting and the road is fun to walk through.

with regards to focus, obviously, f1.4 is a challenge for whatever AF system, my D850 was struggling a few days ago with a friend, I asked him to pull his glassed further down on his nose and try to focus on the eyes, dunno if light blue eyes not having enough contrast but camera kept focusing on glasses frame, no glasses focus spot on... it is just fun to experiment, I know that I stop down to f4-5.6 and it comes nicely in focus, nose, eyes, ears...

Till last year I took a series of causal shots of people, D800 and 85/1.8G, distance I'd say a couple meters from a eye point of view or higher, found out that the sweet spot to have an acceptable DOF was in the f2.8-3.2 range (shots on my Flickr account) so I know that 1.8 or 1.4 won't work off those distances even tho the subject is facing straight towards the camera.

It is undeniable the background blur difference between f1.4 and, say, f2.x as in the above shots, it depends on what one wants to obtain, sharpness isn't everything, I bought the D lens being aware it's not the sharpest thing around but it does great for what it was supposed to do, now attention shifted on sharpness but, to me, that's not everything.

Thanks for commenting, always interesting to read other's points of view and to learn from other's experience.

Best

Giovanni



Aug 17, 2020 at 01:47 PM
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p.5 #5 · The 85 1.4D thread


Another shot




Aug 17, 2020 at 03:56 PM
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p.5 #6 · The 85 1.4D thread


GiovanniAprea wrote:
Another shot

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50238510377_3030ad9eae_h.jpg


Great!

Thank you also for your extended post further above. As said, by no means did I say the lens should never be used at f/1.4. But for my taste, I have to balance the wonderful 1.4 rendering with the (only little less !!!!) still beautiful rendering at f/2.2 or f/3.... and the eyes in a portrait shot. I just find swampy eyes distracting, and the people portraited normally don't like it either!

Great examples here for 2 possible solutions:
- the full body portraits showed by @HardCore above, which are shot wide open, but from a slighly bigger distance
(renders eyes more equally)

- your last post, where the portrait shot is taken directly, straight ahead.
(keeping both eyes at the same distance from the sensor, so in the same focal plane, of course helps)

The dog shot above doesn't follow this approach, but as the back eye is less important to the shot, it still works. And the dog doesn't complain!



Aug 18, 2020 at 04:22 AM
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p.5 #7 · The 85 1.4D thread


Kry27 wrote:
The dog shot above doesn't follow this approach, but as the back eye is less important to the shot, it still works. And the dog doesn't complain!


Ahah, no way, I rather have a happy dog than both eyes in focus whoever the hooooman subject I love animals but, imagine, our dog is scared off the camera, so fun, when she sees me pointing the lens at her she hides or escapes if we are around, I guess she is afraid of the shutter noise (that's why I will have to get a mirrorless camera), she is afraid of whatever any kind of noise...




Aug 18, 2020 at 07:51 AM
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p.5 #8 · The 85 1.4D thread


Here's some of my shots with the Nikon 85D....


NIKON D800E 85.0 mm f/1.4D lens 85mm f/5.0 1/100s ISO 125 0.0 EV No flash.




NIKON D850 85.0 mm f/1.4D lens 85mm f/5.0 1/100s ISO 320 0.0 EV No flash.

I bought my 85D used back in 2003 at the same time bought a use Nikon F5. The lens like the camera was (and still is) in excellent condition. I love the construction of the lens and the metal hood. Well built, great performer. Classic.

Here's a shot of a friend I did with it back in 2003 using the Nikon F5 film body Kodak Tri X film. Image scanned to a digital file using a Nikon Coolscan 4000ED film scanner...


Nikon F5, Nikon AF-D 85mm F1.4 lens. Kodak Tri-X film. Scanned using a Nikon Coolscan 4000ED.



Aug 18, 2020 at 12:10 PM
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p.5 #9 · The 85 1.4D thread


Sorry double post

Edited on Aug 20, 2020 at 09:33 PM · View previous versions



Aug 20, 2020 at 01:02 PM
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p.5 #10 · The 85 1.4D thread


@GiovanniAprea,

no post

Edited on Oct 10, 2020 at 10:13 PM · View previous versions



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p.5 #11 · The 85 1.4D thread


The mighty 85 1.4d, my bad






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Sep 10, 2020 at 11:17 PM
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p.5 #12 · The 85 1.4D thread


esquire1954 wrote:
The Almighty 85 1.4d


Okay, I'll give you "mighty".

However obviously no lens is "almigthy".



Sep 11, 2020 at 08:25 AM
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p.5 #13 · The 85 1.4D thread


good point! so I edited to say "mighty" thou from this definition "almighty" does apply

informal definition:

very great; enormous.
synonyms:
very great · huge



Sep 11, 2020 at 10:35 AM
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p.5 #14 · The 85 1.4D thread


My 85 1.4D with its metal lens hood.


NIKON D850 70-200 mm f/4.0 lens 200mm f/11 0.5s ISO 640 0.0 EV No flash.





Sep 11, 2020 at 06:14 PM
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p.5 #15 · The 85 1.4D thread


with the D700...
DSC_0353 by Rickani Ranch, on Flickr



Sep 15, 2020 at 09:51 PM
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p.5 #16 · The 85 1.4D thread


presumably his copy also loses AF on his Z6

"... Currently, my two main cameras are the Z 6 and D850. The D850 is in my opinion a nearly perfect DSLR and is highly reliable. I mostly shoot it with a AF 85mm f1.4 D which I bought when I was a student. At the time, it seemed out of my league. I recall that when I looked at this lens at the store, I was mesmerized by the size of the front of the lens – it felt as though it was drawing me in. I truly loved the bokeh it produced (back then, with a film camera). Since then, though newer lenses with better rendering capabilities have been released, I still use the 85mm even after switching to the D850." answer by Keiji Oishi - Department Manager, Imaging Business Unit, Nikon

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3679521489/nikon-interview-its-time-to-get-excited



Oct 08, 2020 at 10:32 AM
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p.5 #17 · The 85 1.4D thread


chambeshi wrote:
I recall that when I looked at this lens at the store, I was mesmerized by the size of the front of the lens – it felt as though it was drawing me in.


that was pretty much me, plus the look with that metal hood = I was getting that lens

Glad I did. And it still performs very well




Oct 10, 2020 at 10:28 PM
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p.5 #18 · The 85 1.4D thread


Not with the 85 but about the 85




Oct 11, 2020 at 12:30 PM
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p.5 #19 · The 85 1.4D thread


Some images are not typical

85d with GFX

gfx_85d by ZHNL, on Flickr

gfx_85d2 by ZHNL, on Flickr

GFX_85d7 by ZHNL, on Flickr

GFX_85d8 by ZHNL, on Flickr



Oct 11, 2020 at 01:23 PM
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p.5 #20 · The 85 1.4D thread


Let's throw some love to her majesty the cream machine




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