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LBJ2 wrote:
1/5s would have been a lot better. But that might not be possible without a stacked sensor like the Sony A1 where I can shoot electronic 100%, very fast subject movement included.
But yes, the M11s 1/10s can be used effectively on still subjects, even micro movements. But if a still subject does a macro movement while firing the shutter, then Ive seen some severe jello effect, the same, if I do a macro movement while firing the shutter.
So for me, I can work with it and find it helpful for daylight Noctilux use. But since I also shoot a fair amount of movement, I use the mechanical shutter quite a bit as well. I switch between the two easy enough as needed and I also like the Hybrid shutter feature that will enable the camera to change from mechanical to silent when conditions warrant for Noctilux use too.
None of which IMO interferes with the rangefinder experience....Show more →
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zhangyue wrote:
Yep, subject distance( for macro movement) is important factor to consider using E shutter. How big of portion the subject taken in the frame will define how much distortion you can detect during e shutter use for moving subject or your moving hand
I map one functional button for shutter selection so I can quickly switch shutter type based on user cases.
I dont feel any difference compare using m11 to other earlier M if not active those features. This is the M I always want, even though I want even more at no cost of changing rangefinder core.
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flash wrote:
I don't think an EVF based camera for M lenses will or should be called an M. It'll get it's own letter. Otherwise there'll be carnage from the die hards. I proposed calling it an *N*, for *not* an M. That camera can have IBIS and a flippy screen and even video.
Hypocritically, I don't want IBIS on a M camera. I know I've been a fan (and still am) of the changes in the M11, so I should be all in for modernising. And I have a bunch of cameras with IBIS which I really like and I appreciate the benifits IBIS gives me.
But not on an M. There's no doubt IBIS would make things easier on the M. But I don't actually want the M to make it easier. The M is the only camera left that rewards good technique. Shuuter, Aperture, ISO, hold it steady, SHOOT! Sure, you can turn stuff off on other cameras. But the M is the last camera that REQUIRES excellent technique. I means you need to give it the time to learn it and master it and then practice to maintain those skills. I think M-D fans will get how I feel about this. The M is the thinking mans camera.
For less money you can Kolari mod your A7R4 and get everthing except a rangefinder. And I really do feel Leica will need to address this particular market with the N11. I'd be first in line. You can use the SL2(S) but it's not the same. I like my SL2 but it's a different beast to a smaller camera with a viewfinder on the top left corner.
The XPro4 will have IBIS. Fuji have shoe horned it into the XT4 already. If the next X sensor is 40MP, like the rumours suggest then it'll be a compelling little camera. But I have a couple of XPro cameras and they don't challenge me like the M.
The next *revolution* is computational photography. It's coming. It's here in your phone and really close in the OM-1. As the sofware geniuses get closer to making an iPhone spit out results indistinguishable from a Sony A7S or a Canon 5D2, I still have a place for a camera that's a little bit difficult to use.
There is no doubt that the perfect camera for my use case is the GFX100S. Huge, robust files. Tri flip screen. Lots of lenses in my preferred range. IBIS, Zooms. Eye AF. etc... And I really like my GFX100S. But it doesn't give me that same satisfaction as using an M. Not even close. I use my other cameras when I have to and my M's when I want to.
Some photographers are only concerned about the results. Others are more in awe of the process of making an image. I'm definitely in the latter camp.
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Yes, it works great as long as the photographer, subject and rest of the scene remains relatively still. I use it on the Sony A7R IV successfully under these conditions as long as the scene is not lit under artificial lighting to avoid banding.
There are tricks to increase the scan rate that works for the A7R IV but not on the Leica M11. For example, with the Sony, if I switch to "Compressed raw" and "Continuous shutter" mode, the sensor scan rate jumps to 1/20 second. Furthermore, it I use these settings in combination to APS-C mode, the scan rate goes to 1/30s which is pretty decent now...Just a bit more flexibility using the same sensor architecture.
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