p.22 #1 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
cc8877_Canon wrote:
Hi all
I’m not fully satisfied with the results I’m getting using the Canon-provided CLog2 to REC709 conversion LUT. On the other hand, the in-camera CLog View Assist—which provides a REC709 preview on the LCD screen and HDMI output—looks perfect to me.
I’m wondering if there’s any way to obtain or export that internal LUT used for the View Assist, as it delivers a much more pleasing and accurate image compared to the official conversion LUT.
There isn't a difference in the LUT- A Lut is just numbers.
What you are seeing is probably a more saturated image on LCD or wherever you are sending it.
What editing program are you using?
Also if you like the in camera LUT, just shoot in DR wide gamut and use that as a starting point. Clog 2 is unnecessary unless you want to apply edits to color after. You still can if shooting in wide DR but just less so.
p.22 #2 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
RustyRus wrote:
There isn't a difference in the LUT- A Lut is just numbers.
What you are seeing is probably a more saturated image on LCD or wherever you are sending it.
What editing program are you using?
Also if you like the in camera LUT, just shoot in DR wide gamut and use that as a starting point. Clog 2 is unnecessary unless you want to apply edits to color after. You still can if shooting in wide DR but just less so.
I’m using FCP.
If I import my clog2 to fcp a Clog2-REC709 conversion is applied but I need to work on exposure, curves, saturation to make it similar to the R5II view assist function.
So I’m asking how to have a lut that work like the view assist function.
p.22 #3 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
cc8877_Canon wrote:
I’m using FCP.
If I import my clog2 to fcp a Clog2-REC709 conversion is applied but I need to work on exposure, curves, saturation to make it similar to the R5II view assist function.
So I’m asking how to have a lut that work like the view assist function.
Hope all is more clear now.
First question, why are you shooting in Clog 2?
Clog 3 might be a better option for you. Its much more saturated and has more contrast right out of the gate. Clog 2 has a bit more dynamic range but nothing that will matter unless you really know what you are doing. CLOG 2 with a LUT applied is much "duller" than CLOG 3 just after a LUT.
CLOG 2 takes more work to get where you want it.
My guess though, apply the LUT, make a global contrast and black point adjustment to the video and you are getting close to the look you want.
You could also hit the enhance light/color button in FCP to improve those things for you.
Try and qucik test between CLOG 2 and CLOG 3- My guess is you will prefer CLOG 3 much more with just a basic conversion LUT applied.
p.22 #4 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Which exact setting out are you referring to by “DR wide gamut”
Also, wondering does it have any more real dynamic range or is it just a curve applied to the normal file…
Anyone know of a proper test of this wide DR mode on YouTube?
Thx
RustyRus wrote:
There isn't a difference in the LUT- A Lut is just numbers.
What you are seeing is probably a more saturated image on LCD or wherever you are sending it.
What editing program are you using?
Also if you like the in camera LUT, just shoot in DR wide gamut and use that as a starting point. Clog 2 is unnecessary unless you want to apply edits to color after. You still can if shooting in wide DR but just less so.
p.22 #5 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
RustyRus wrote:
First question, why are you shooting in Clog 2?
Clog 3 might be a better option for you. Its much more saturated and has more contrast right out of the gate. Clog 2 has a bit more dynamic range but nothing that will matter unless you really know what you are doing. CLOG 2 with a LUT applied is much "duller" than CLOG 3 just after a LUT.
CLOG 2 takes more work to get where you want it.
My guess though, apply the LUT, make a global contrast and black point adjustment to the video and you are getting close to the look you want.
You could also hit the enhance light/color button in FCP to improve those things for you.
Try and qucik test between CLOG 2 and CLOG 3- My guess is you will prefer CLOG 3 much more with just a basic conversion LUT applied. ...Show more →
With R5 I always used clog3 and I was very very satisfied by the results. Applying the film kit clog3 to rec709 lut gave me what I’m looking for.
Do you think I can use the same lut for R5ii? Will give it a try and shoot in clog3 and see.
p.22 #6 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
cc8877_Canon wrote:
With R5 I always used clog3 and I was very very satisfied by the results. Applying the film kit clog3 to rec709 lut gave me what I’m looking for.
Do you think I can use the same lut for R5ii? Will give it a try and shoot in clog3 and see.
If you don't want to do any adjustment I'm not sure why are you shooting in Log. Why do it post what the camera does for it you? If you simply apply a Clog to Rec709 you gain nothing compared to do it already in camera.
In theory all Canon cameras should match if in the same gamut and log. So again in theory R5 and R5 II should yield the same or very similar image in Clog 3, but the sensor is different so you will have some small variations plus more DR in the R5 II.
p.22 #7 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
I have tried to change my setting to CLog3 Cinema Gamut in my R5II.
Using the Filmkit Clog3-CinemaGamut LUT with my footage I think I have a better starting point than working with Clog2 Canon conversion LUT and then tweaking.
p.22 #9 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Someone recently mentioned the Sony ECM M1 shotgun hot shoe microphone on a thread at BCG, and I was impressed at how compact it is, but unfortunately, learned that it only works on Sony cameras. Today, in a thread here, someone suggested the Canon DM-E1D Stereo Microphone. It looks relatively compact (not as small as the Sony), and supports several pickup patterns (not as many as the Sony). I'm sure there are other solutions that deliver higher quality audio, but most of the other mics I've seen recommended are so big I suspect I would rarely take them with me.
Has anyone used the DM-E1D? What's your verdict/review?
p.22 #10 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Part 1. Two Muskrats and two kits at Ted Shanks Conservation Area, near Ashburn, Mo on March 26. 2025. Never thought of muskrats as "cute", but I think the kits are cute. I was surprised at the chase in the last part of the video, when another, non-family, muskrat or something similar got soundly chased off by I guess the mother muskrat. I would guess the kits have just been weaned, so maybe 4 weeks old. Canon R5 MKII RF 200-800 4k mostly hand held on monopod, partially from seat of truck, some with tripod(wish it had all been tripod, but thought they would leave if I got out)
p.22 #11 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Part 2. Muskrats and two kits at Ted Shanks Conservation Area, near Ashburn, Mo on March 26. 2025. Never thought of muskrats as "cute", but I think the kits are cute. A couple nice clips of the cute kits feeding. And one showing how fast the kits can swim to be near a parent. I would guess the kits have just been weaned, so maybe 4 weeks old. One of the adult muskrats lost part of its tail. You can see it missing in a couple parts of the video if looking for it. Canon R5 MKII 4K RF 200-800.
p.22 #12 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
I have a question regarding the R8's continuous focus in video mode, if anyone has any experience.
On the 'still' side I have my settings for continuous AF/servo for sports and back-button focus etc. It works very well. I use a single AF point, with surrounding 'helper' points, put it anywhere on my subject, it locks onto the eyes and tracks (providing I have the back button pressed all the time).
I duplicated my settings for video, along with looking at numerous YouTube videos for the same subject, and made some tweaks to my settings for video to enable constant AF.
Issue is I don't get a blue focus box during video. Only a green box. Wondering if anyone has any experience with this.
Should I disable back button focus for video mode?
My goal is to track a moving subject, whether it's shooting sports, our dog at play, wildlife, cars, etc. I'm not 100% sure it's tracking they way it should, compared to still photo mode.
p.22 #13 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
vbnut wrote:
Someone recently mentioned the Sony ECM M1 shotgun hot shoe microphone on a thread at BCG, and I was impressed at how compact it is, but unfortunately, learned that it only works on Sony cameras. Today, in a thread here, someone suggested the Canon DM-E1D Stereo Microphone. It looks relatively compact (not as small as the Sony), and supports several pickup patterns (not as many as the Sony). I'm sure there are other solutions that deliver higher quality audio, but most of the other mics I've seen recommended are so big I suspect I would rarely take them with me.
Has anyone used the DM-E1D? What's your verdict/review?...Show more →
Hi vbnut,
I have not used the Canon microphone.
I have used the inexpensive Deity V-Mic D4 Mini for 2-3 years with so-so results. I also use the built in microphone with less than stellular results. I just read and watch a couple videos on the Canon mic and it looks interesting. I hope someone can give results, but 2 YT videos recently gave Ok reviews. The did just cut the price by 1/3, so they are trying to move them. Wonder if a new one is in the works, or just pricing for the market?
Dave
p.22 #14 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
dj63401 wrote:
Hi vbnut,
I have not used the Canon microphone.
I have used the inexpensive Deity V-Mic D4 Mini for 2-3 years with so-so results. I also use the built in microphone with less than stellular results. I just read and watch a couple videos on the Canon mic and it looks interesting. I hope someone can give results, but 2 YT videos recently gave Ok reviews. The did just cut the price by 1/3, so they are trying to move them. Wonder if a new one is in the works, or just pricing for the market?
Dave
Its average-
The only real advantage to it is that it doesn't need a cable-
There are better microphones on the market IMO-
Also to be noted, its a streo microphone that will pick up all ambient noise vs a direct style microphone. So if you want ambient noises and backgrounds etc, its better than on camera. For shotgun style mic for talking heads and isolating sounds, its not the right pic-
p.22 #15 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Also-
Just to keep the thread going-
Quick Video from Canon Beach shot with the R5mk2- Also used the Canon C80 which I don't typically use out in the field like this (it stay inside mostly). Really enjoyed it.
p.22 #16 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
RustyRus wrote:
Also to be noted, its a streo microphone that will pick up all ambient noise vs a direct style microphone. So if you want ambient noises and backgrounds etc, its better than on camera. For shotgun style mic for talking heads and isolating sounds, its not the right pic-
It is not just a stereo mic. It has 3 modes: 90° Stereo, 120° Stereo, and Shotgun. I'm sure there are better mics, but as I mentioned, it is compact enough that I am likely to take it with me. The mics I've seen recommended are significantly bigger, especially if I need 2 or 3 to get both stereo and shotgun.
p.22 #17 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
vbnut wrote:
It is not just a stereo mic. It has 3 modes: 90° Stereo, 120° Stereo, and Shotgun. I'm sure there are better mics, but as I mentioned, it is compact enough that I am likely to take it with me. The mics I've seen recommended are significantly bigger, especially if I need 2 or 3 to get both stereo and shotgun.
vbnut,
Please post your thoughts on the Canon DM-E1D mic after you get a chance to use it some.
Thanks,
Dave
p.22 #18 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Belted Kingfisher showing off her rattle sound. This video is from Ted Shanks Conservation Area in Pike County, Missouri. Another Belted Kingfisher, maybe her mate, had just done a fly by, rattling as it went by. I think she was excited, as I had been watching her for several minutes, and she was not hardly making a sound until the fly by. It is a unique sound, and I would have a lot harder time finding them without it. R5 MKII RF200-800 at 800mm. 4k. Hand held on a monopod from seat of truck.
p.22 #19 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Belted Kingfisher grooming. She dives for fish, then goes through her grooming ritual. I enjoy seeing the wing and rear wiggle she does when grooming. Then she takes off. This is from Ted Shanks Conservation Area in Pike County, Missouri. Canon R5MKII RF 200-800 4k
p.22 #20 · Canon video thread for hybrid shooters...
Thanks for this thread and thanks to all who contributed. I’ve been bookmarking all the links. Lots of good information and great examples included here. I don’t know much but have been sometimes shooting movies and banging away at the keyboard. If you’ve been shooting 4K H.265 / HEVC -- Canon Log 3 -- BT.709 -- ALL-I – 10 bit and can’t play your clips (DaVinci Resolve free version for example) here’s a free software that will convert your files:
If you decide to invest $295 in the paid version of DaVinci Resolve, you can get a DaVinci Resolve Speed Editor plus the paid version of the software for $525 at B&H. Amazon has hardware + software for $395 but it shows V.16 in the photo. Current release is V.20 It seems like only yesterday the Speed Editor plus the paid version of the software was $300 so it was like getting the hardware free with the software purchase but oh well time marches on. There are still some hardware + software packages on eBay but please! Buyer beware!
