Why ignore the evolution of dynamic range? Image quality isn't just about megapixels. The a7V brought dynamic range to medium format levels at low ISO after an 8-year plateau. Bringing this to the a7R VI clearly means better image quality, doesn't it? Most photographers want better DR, not just higher resolution.
Alan Parker wrote:
I do certainly agree with this sentiment. The A7R6 sounds amazing on paper, but it's really hard to see what the angle or direction is for this in relation to what an R body used to be. I personally really don't need 30fps. 10fps is often plenty for me. Has Sony just plateaued at the level of 67MP and do they need help from TSMC to break through that barrier on full-frame? (100MP sensors are out there, but not full-frame) It's certainly food for thought. Just pushing the fps of the camera because they perhaps can't increase the resolution is a strange direction to sell more cameras.
Thing is too if Sony sticks with introducing a sensor in the even number R cameras and then reusing it for the odd number R cameras we might not see a 80MP+ full-frame camera until 2032 or 2033 ...Show more →
Manu-K1 wrote:
It's probably not going to match the A1 II, DRAM these days are very expensive... My guess is the A1 II will still have the edge regarding scan speed (4ms vs 16ms), buffer depth and AF speed calculations. The A7R VI will probably just be an A7 V with double the resolution?
Alex mentioned he thinks it is more like 5-10ms range which would be pretty impressive for the 67MP sensor.
My intent was to use the X2Dii for landscape and static portrature and the A1II for everything else.
While the X2Dii itself was great, and the resolution was impressive, I was let down by the lenses:
* For landscape, the 20-35E was not as sharp in the corners as the 16-35GM2, even when I downscaled the X2Dii image to 50MP and accounted for aspect ratio differences.
* For portraiture, I could get better subject separation with the full frame system as the fastest I could get from modern Haselblad lenses was f/2.5.
With the Sony having the 50-150/2 it was hard to keep the X2Dii.
I sold the X2Dii with the intent on scratching the landscape itch with a Z7III or a7R VI.
arbitrage wrote:
Alex mentioned he thinks it is more like 5-10ms range which would be pretty impressive for the 67MP sensor.
I wonder if the 67MP sensor showed on the leaked roadmap (60 FPS thus 16ms) is for outside customers while Sony has made a version with faster readout for the a7r VI? One more day and we will know!
arbitrage wrote:
Alex mentioned he thinks it is more like 5-10ms range which would be pretty impressive for the 67MP sensor.
Yeah, both numbers are impressive. 5ms even more as it is 1/200s and should give distortion free images in almost every case. However, while still impressive 10ms should be useful in many situations, yet distortion might be visible sometimes. If it is somewhere in the middle, for example @a9mk1 level it would be awesome - I have not seen any ES artifacts in my images tsken with a9.
My intent was to use the X2Dii for landscape and static portrature and the A1II for everything else.
While the X2Dii itself was great, and the resolution was impressive, I was let down by the lenses:
* For landscape, the 20-35E was not as sharp in the corners as the 16-35GM2, even when I downscaled the X2Dii image to 50MP and accounted for aspect ratio differences.
* For portraiture, I could get better subject separation with the full frame system as the fastest I could get from modern Haselblad lenses was f/2.5.
With the Sony having the 50-150/2 it was hard to keep the X2Dii.
I sold the X2Dii with the intent on scratching the landscape itch with a Z7III or a7R VI....Show more →
I’ve not had issue with my 20-35E, but when wanting the best quality images I use the 25v and 38v. F/2.5 is more like f/2.0 in FF and your need for more separation will probably served nicely by the new Sony. The newest XCD lenses were a compromise between size/weight and optical perfection. Some of the older lenses have greater optical perfection, but I understand that this is not true of every lens. Sony has an amazing line of lenses. Some compete with Leica for optical perfection and there is a great lineup of more compact lenses. The new Sony might offer the same dynamic range as the X2D2 and that alone would be a major improvement. That said, lots of parameters make for the best camera. Every system has tradeoffs. I won’t be going back to Sony, but I will be buying the A7Rvi, or A7CRii for my wife. Both should be quite impressive. We are fortunate, in the age of smartphones, to have so many great choices.
Choderboy wrote:
Wow. What an introduction!
We better warn Fred, I think the ignore feature might be at risk of crashing.
Actually, I found it interesting. I don't agree with much in it but there is a lot to think about and discuss. And it's always good to hear from someone outside of the "bubble."
cookieyh wrote:
Nowadays the existing camera bodies are already so good. It's hard to get excited by these routine upgrade.
My oldest just graduated from Texas A&M. My youngest daughter, who has only used a camera once, put her sisters A6700 on full auto and made some great images. She has a much better eye than myself. Modern cameras are amazing and nothing replaces the human component. The cameras are amazing. Here is one..
Jemini wrote:
Alex, tell us about the lens . Is it as light as 300/2.8 and as big as 400/2.8? It doesn't add up for a zoom with 4.5 aperture. I think it should be slightly lighter and smaller than 200-600.
quantumloop wrote:
Alex Phan is a well known birding photographer who uses a lot of gear, including a lot of Sony gear, and he posted on FB about the A7RVI teaser of the announcement. He is very credible and I can believe that he probably has already seen or used this camera.
In reading the comments, he answered a few questions. He said that the exact resolution is 66.8MP, fully stacked sensor of course. He was also asked if this was going to really be an A1 II killer and if one should sell their A1 II. He said "yes. Sell it."
Another of his friends posted "Plz don't do this to me right now" and he replied "You will love it." The person then asked "Will I want to keep my a1 II or no." Alex replied "as a backup."
Take all this as you will but the person is very credible....Show more →
I 100% do not believe this. Sony has never cannibalized their flagship camera in this way. There will be a technical/use-case dependent reason to stay with or buy an A1 II instead of the newly improved A7RVI — I guarantee it
Jazzgear296 wrote:
I 100% do not believe this. Sony has never cannibalized their flagship camera in this way. There will be a technical/use-case dependent reason to stay with or buy an A1 II instead of the newly improved A7RVI — I guarantee it
I hope so but to be honest the only reason I hope so is because I was one of those suckers who bought an A1II last year AFTER the price increase. If I still had my A7RVs I would be so excited right now but instead I find myself trying to make the same argument that there is no way Sony will kill the A1II.
I think it's entirely possible Sony realized they screwed up with the A1II pricing. Its closest competitors from other brands like the Z9 and R5MK2 are significantly cheaper.
My only question is how will Sony continue selling the A1 and A1II once this camera is released. The only thing I can think of is that they will have to drop the price dramatically.
I'm kind of interested in the pricing trajectories. If "I" need a new battery, is a Nikon battery and a $3000 Z8 a more compelling or different compromise when looking towards $5000 A7Rs or what might be coming with A1s or A9s?
Logan Nolag wrote:
I hope so but to be honest the only reason I hope so is because I was one of those suckers who bought an A1II last year AFTER the price increase. If I still had my A7RVs I would be so excited right now but instead I find myself trying to make the same argument that there is no way Sony will kill the A1II.
I think it's entirely possible Sony realized they screwed up with the A1II pricing. Its closest competitors from other brands like the Z9 and R5MK2 are significantly cheaper.
My only question is how will Sony continue selling the A1 and A1II once this camera is released. The only thing I can think of is that they will have to drop the price dramatically....Show more →
we have the discussion the other day and said some of the A1ii user will be very mad, especially those that just bought it recently.
Logan Nolag wrote:
I hope so but to be honest the only reason I hope so is because I was one of those suckers who bought an A1II last year AFTER the price increase. If I still had my A7RVs I would be so excited right now but instead I find myself trying to make the same argument that there is no way Sony will kill the A1II.
I think it's entirely possible Sony realized they screwed up with the A1II pricing. Its closest competitors from other brands like the Z9 and R5MK2 are significantly cheaper.
My only question is how will Sony continue selling the A1 and A1II once this camera is released. The only thing I can think of is that they will have to drop the price dramatically....Show more →
The smartest thing Sony can do, IF the A1 II winds up being "old tech" after this release, is price it to be competitive with the Z8, or at least halfway between the Z8 and Z9.
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. Is it as light as 300/2.8 and as big as 400/2.8? It doesn't add up for a zoom with 4.5 aperture. I think it should be slightly lighter and smaller than 200-600.